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Did Anavar shut you down

Does Anavar shut you down

  • YES

    Votes: 50 23.5%
  • NO

    Votes: 58 27.2%
  • NEVER TRIED ANAVAR

    Votes: 105 49.3%

  • Total voters
    213

BIGMIke007

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Simple yes or no!

I have used 40mg for 6 weeks with no PCT - post cycle therapy - and didnt feel any shut down. What were your experiences?
 
iv ran it for 4 weeks and it didnt shut me down but a buddy of mine did they same thing and it did shut him down.
 
i am in week 10 of a 10 weeker and i am "shut down" right now. ran 60 ed first 6 week then 70 2 week and 80 last 2 week. i have used before and it shut me down.btw i have more testicular shrinkage than when i have done 400 mg test for 10 weeks!!!
 
Ive been doing more and more reading and its starting to seem that shorter cycles with Anavar - oxandrolone - seem to be the best way to go. Ive been seeing alot more, that most poeple get their gains in the first 4 to 6 weeks then stall out anyways. Also keeping the cycles shorter, allows you to get back into cycle faster, if your using the time on/off rule. Might be something worth trying out, more frequent shorter cycles that is. If the gains are coming by week 6 with most people, you might be able to eliminate or lessen the sides dramatically, and see CLOSE to the same gains.

Ill keep doing a little more reading, but this seems to be a plan that is popping up more and more as I read more into Var.

-Legacy
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
Ive been doing more and more reading and its starting to seem that shorter cycles with Anavar - oxandrolone - seem to be the best way to go. Ive been seeing alot more than most poeple get their gains in the first 4 to 6 weeks then stall out anyways. Also keeping the cycles shorter, allows you to get back into cycle faster, if your using the time on/off rule. Might be something worth trying out, more frequent shorter cycles that is. If the gains are coming by week 6 with most people, you might be able to eliminate or lessen the sides dramatically, and see CLOSE to the same gains.

Ill keep doing a little more reading, but this seems to be a plan that is popping up more and more as I read more into Var.

-Legacy
NO NO NO and no again, it does not stall out at 4 or 6 weeks! it gets mo better. 6 weeks on anavar is not enough time if you are using it alone, trust me. if you run with test then yes a 6 weeker will do you up fine with little to no suppression assuming you are using a reasonable dose. if you are concerned with suppression then take one dose in the morning, dont divide. impedes gains but help keep the old natty flowin.
 
layinback said:
i am in week 10 of a 10 weeker and i am "shut down" right now. ran 60 ed first 6 week then 70 2 week and 80 last 2 week. i have used before and it shut me down.btw i have more testicular shrinkage than when i have done 400 mg test for 10 weeks!!!

How have your results been?
 
Will be trying it soon and will post results.. I typically get bad sides, so I'm hoping it will be more tolerable. PCT will be on hand just in case.
 
I ran var at 100mg ED for 8 weeks along with test and loved it! Definitely shut me down. I wouldn't run var shorter then 6-8 weeks IMO
 
Not 1 bit, over 10 weeks.

weeks 1-3 40mgs per day
weeks 3-7 80mgs per day
weeks 7-10 60mgs per day

My experience with great results back in 2004!
 
so if i would do var for my first cycle.
what can the results be in gains in lean muscletissue whit a good bulkingdiet, good training and good sleep.

i know results vary...but between a normal range?
 
It shuts you down moderately. I have tried it alone and noticed very mild shrinkage, nothing like deca or test. And it was QV back in the early days of var's reemergence, with Ttokkyo, QV, Denkall (Mexican vet gear, good stuff). Still only 5mg, which was still a jump from 2.5mg of Searle. I only gained like 3 reps on my bench, which is still not bad for just var and virtually no sides. Nothing dramatic but still pretty decent. But if you are already suppressed, var alone will keep you suppressed. From what I remember dosage was average 30mg/day.
 
80mg day 6 weeks..

shrunk them up to the point they would suck up inside my body during sex..

HCG fixed that right up though..

see.. everyone is different..
 
50mg/day for 6wks with 250mg/wk sust. Very mild shutdown.

I'm about to run 60mg/day solo for 6wks starting next week. I'll chime back in to this thread.


Is clomid/nolva usually enough to kickstart things?
 
it probably didnt shut you down, but it did affect your hpta. you *could* run pct for a quicker return to "normal" - but if you don't do pct you'll be fine in a few weeks.

4 weeks only? I would've done it at 60-80mg..
 
Simple yes or no!

I have used 40mg for 6 weeks with no PCT - post cycle therapy - and didnt feel any shut down. What were your experiences?


Feeling and bloodwork are 2 different things. This thread should have been who used Anavar and got bloodwork to confirm that they have been shutdown.
 
Guys, for those worried about running anavar for longer than 6 weeks, anavar is a mild oral aas and not very liver toxic, so don't worry about that...it is nothing like running anadrol 50...it will not fuck up your liver

I would recommned running it for 8 weeks min....also 60mgs ed min. Yes, it produces lean gains, but not that noticeable....some nice strength gains as well
 
anavar wreaks havoc on cholesterol / lipids though, correct? more so than many other AAS?
 
This thread is full of opinions and feelings and no one actually mentioned any blood tests... or brought any facts to the table
 
I've always disliked how people use black and white statements. Shut Down is not the same as suppressed. Certain gear will literally shut you down. Others will supress a little, and others will suppress alot, and it all depends also on dose and cycle length. So any answer to this thread is not really going to be accurate unless you state length of time, dosage, T level before and T level after.

Additionally, the difference between UG and Human Grade is huge. The fact that the UG could be cut with other substances and underdosed in actual var is a known issue, so one UG var could "shut you down" because it's cut with a little dbol or something else.
 
A randomized, controlled trial of treatment of alcoholic hepatitis with parenteral nutrition and oxandrolone. I. Short-term effects on liver function.

We conclude that the addition of nutritional supplementation and oxandrolone to standard therapy of moderately severe or severe alcoholic hepatitis is well tolerated, and leads to more rapid improvement in the laboratory parameters measured.

They were given 20mgs 4x/day

Does oxandrolone supress your HPTA (natural testosterone production)?

Yes. Research shows as little as 2.5mg can supress in some folks. As far as the effects of this lowered test production, at 40mg a day, I would say that it's pretty much split evenly. Half of people will attest to loss of sex drive and testicular shrinkage late cycle, while about half attest that they retained sexual drive without any shrinkage. Bridging users be forewarned.

Reference: (Effect of low dose oxandrolone and testosterone treatment on the pituitary-testicular and GH axes in boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty. Crowne EC, Wallace WH, Moore C, Mitchell R, Robertson WH, Holly JM, Shalet SM. )

OBJECTIVE: We studied the effects of oxandrolone on serum concentrations of LH, FSH, testosterone, GH, SHBG, DHEAS, IGF-I and insulin in boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty.
DESIGN: Ten boys with constitutional delay of growth and puberty, mean age 13.8 years (range 12.4-15.5) were studied. Twenty-four-hour serum concentration profiles of GH, LH and FSH were constructed by drawing blood samples at 20-minute intervals. Three study occasions over a period of 6 months were chosen to assess hormone concentrations before, during and 6 weeks after a 3-month course of oxandrolone (2.5 mg once daily) therapy.
RESULTS: Growth velocity increased during oxandrolone treatment and stayed higher after therapy (pre 3.9 +/- 0.5; on 6.3 +/- 0.8; post 6.4 +/- 0.9 cm/year (mean +/- SEM) two way ANOVA, F = 5.3, P = 0.02). Oxandrolone had androgenic effects, suppressing mean serum LH concentrations from 1.7 +/- 0.3 to 1.1 +/- 0.2 U/I and serum testosterone concentrations from 1.9 +/- 0.6 to 0.8 +/- 0.1 nmol/l. SHBG concentrations were also reduced from 130.9 +/- 14.6 to 30.7 +/- 7.3 nmol/l. Serum GH concentration fell slightly from 5.9 +/- 0.6 to 4.8 +/- 0.5 mU/l. After cessation of treatment, there was a significant 'rebound' in mean 24-hour serum LH (2.6 U/l +/- 0.4) and testosterone concentrations (3.2 +/- 0.9 nmol/l) but no change in serum GH concentrations. SHBG values also rose but not to the same extent as those observed before therapy (82.0 +/- 8.4 nmol/l). There were no statistically significant differences in serum concentrations of FSH, DHEAS, IGF-I and insulin over the study period. In a stepwise multiple regression analysis of factors that might influence the growth rate observed, the 24-hour mean serum testosterone concentration and the treatment (on or off) with oxandrolone were the main influences. The relationship was described by the equation Height velocity = 0.69 (24-hour mean serum testosterone concentration)+1.70 (treatment regimen)+3.37 (adjusted R2 = 0.35, F = 8.39, P = 0.001).
CONCLUSIONS: Oxandrolone has an androgenic action as shown by changes in serum LH, testosterone and SHBG concentrations and by the lack of effect on FSH. No effect of oxandrolone on the GH axis was documented. We suggest that the growth promoting effects of oxandrolone are related in part to the mild androgenic effects of the steroid and the growth acceleration following oxandrolone withdrawal may reflect increasing total serum testosterone concentrations and decreasing levels of SHBG and progress in puberty.
 
Simple yes or no!

I have used 40mg for 6 weeks with no PCT - post cycle therapy - and didnt feel any shut down. What were your experiences?

I think it depends on the dosage and length.
I have seen bloodwork that showed suppression.
I would always use a PCT following an ANAVAR cycle.
 
In my 5th week of a 7wk run of 50mg/ed with test creme (20mg) ed & I am suppressed. Good bit of shrinkage & loss of sex drive. Just ordered hcg & nolva today
 
So no one actually did any blood tests before / after? Where are all the Canadians!! FREE BLOOD TESTS COMMON!
 
My most recent Var-only experience...

13 days after a 50mg/d Var cycle (7 weeks), my liver values, HDL and LDL were all within the normal range. BP rose by a good 20pts diastolic (I have naturally low diastolic pressure of 68, so it wasn't that huge a deal IMO). As for free test levels, they declined from 17 units to 13 units. The clinic (Ontario) didn't report in ng/dl and I was unfamilliar with the units used so I'm not sure how to put that in perspective for all of you. I did not feel shut down, and I did not have any major issues, sides or other impacts.
 
Ran var only @ 40 mg Ed, split into 4 times a day. 4 weeks on.

Got blood tests to prove, more then I can thk of.

It raised my bp from 120/75(80ish) to 155/98! Gave me light headedness, weird feeling in my left eye. Short of breath, had to lay down toward end of cycle. I must be very sensitive.

Liver count was double what it was supposed to be, low 100s, no drinking took place on cycle.

Cholesterol was a little fucked up as well.

Test went from who knows ( first cycle, listened to a pal, didn't get a baseline) to 170 the week I came off.

Had no pct, ran to doc and was told to do nothing! 3 mths later test is 241 and doc wants me on trt. At least he went straight for needles instead if cream tho lol. But still, screw tht Ed for forever.

Soooo I'm doing hella research and trying some trs ,hcgenerate, krill oil, ruthless multi vit. Been on androbolix for 4 weeks now ( until this hcgenerate gets in) and no lie it's virtually takin all anxiety away! Forgot to say var gave me horrible anxiety as soon as I came off!
If these don't work then I'll do a tamofexen (I thk is how it's spelled) or nolva reset. Read bout em on here. Buuuuut I thk need to is a good guy and knows his stuff. I thk I'll be ok the natty way.

Have two friends tht did it from same lab and both were surpressed, but nowhere close to me. Both were in 340 test range. A few yrs younger tho.


As far as if it was legit var only, don't know. I can't find a place to get it tested! stupid. Blue pentagons are what they look like. 10mg ea.
Sex drive was same but nuts started to shrink noticeably only during sex tho. Sealed and says oxandrolone on bottle. Bout 2 in. Tall. 3/4 x 3/4in. Sq. And made by La pharma srl... Thts Manu, not a source of where I got it.

N e help on if it's legit would be nice but if ya don't know take my experience for what it's worth.
 
Simple yes or no!

I have used 40mg for 6 weeks with no PCT - post cycle therapy - and didnt feel any shut down. What were your experiences?

Sorry, but how you felt means absolutely nothing. Blood test will show the true story and anything else is just mental masturbation.
 
6 weeks at 100mg ed and i have finished my pct just finishing the bottle of hcgen and to be honest i still feel shut down. May be the lingering effects of clomid/ nolva who knows
 
Maybe jam out on another t booster like phytoserms or grab some formastanzol from mr.supps. Those will help bring you back. One things for sure, you don't wanna be shut down for long if at all while not taking some sort of test (or producing your own), you'll feel like shit.

I had blood tests b4 and after hcgen and although I felt wayyy better after the hcgen run my test showed almost no notable improvements in actual total test levels( 10 ng maybe, I forget the exact number but I went in with 280 ish and came out a mth later at 290 ish). But I did see a difference in lh and fsh levels. I became much more sensitive to the test that I did have floating around. And SHBG was lower. Hence the reason I felt good again, needto saved my life with this stuff!

Thts after 3 mths of no pct! My run is above, hope that helps you out.
 
I ran it at 100mg a day for 10 weeks and it didnt completely shut me down but it definatly suppressed me somewhat. I still ran a full pct though, but no hcg
 
Simple yes or no!

I have used 40mg for 6 weeks with no PCT - post cycle therapy - and didnt feel any shut down. What were your experiences?

First of all, such "feelings" are worthless. You must check your testosterone values. In general, I think that shutdown on Anavar is not a big problem, because Anavar elevates mood, which largely compensates it.

During the first 1-2 weeks on Anavar, my libido is always elevated, but then testosterone values decrease rapidly and after ca. 6 weeks, it is already noticeable.

I always suffer from heavy testosterone suppression on Anavar, by the way. After 8 weeks on 60-65 mg/day, my testosterone was suppressed by shocking 98%! (11.25 ng/dl, the average value in young men is about 550 ng/dl, although in my case of a 38-years old man, I should probably use 500 ng/dl as a standard).

After my recent 6-weeks cycle on 80 mg/day, I had 35.5 ng/dl. Despite that, I felt O.K., although my libido was obviously down. However, it is understandable that PCT is a heavy task for me. I eventually solved this problem by taking 10 mg Anavar/day+1 mg anastrozole for 4 weeks, and then 1 mg anastrozole for another 4-5 weeks.
 
It's pretty cool to see how each person reacts differently to an AS. Anavar never shut me down and I ran 30-40 mg/daily for 8 weeks. I did notice my blood pressure was up quite a bit more with Oral Anavar than other Injectable AS's. It also gave me frequent heartburn. Other than that, I loved the stuff and I would surely run it PCT again..(A wee pricey though).
 
Ran var alone for 7 weeks @ 50mg and noticed minor suppression but when I came off after about 4 days I felt even more suppressed then on cycle so I double dosed HCGenerate (10) caps per day and (3) Unleashed a day and after about 5 days of doing that I felt like a million dollars it was like night and day! Also felt moody while on and low libido! Other than that I would run var again it did wonders
 
Ran var alone for 7 weeks @ 50mg and noticed minor suppression but when I came off after about 4 days I felt even more suppressed then on cycle so I double dosed HCGenerate (10) caps per day and (3) Unleashed a day and after about 5 days of doing that I felt like a million dollars it was like night and day! Also felt moody while on and low libido! Other than that I would run var again it did wonders

^^^This. Var took my libido down to zero, and made me very moody while on. I need to pick up some HCGenerate, because I think the HCG I got was bunk, morning wood is only coming back once a week or so, I'm rebounding slowly from Var at 100mg/day for 6 weeks.
 
^^^This. Var took my libido down to zero, and made me very moody while on. I need to pick up some HCGenerate, because I think the HCG I got was bunk, morning wood is only coming back once a week or so, I'm rebounding slowly from Var at 100mg/day for 6 weeks.

Wow!!! 100mgs your crazy bro lol but yeah pick up a couple bottles of HCGenerate and a bottle of unleashed and you will be feeling really good in just a few days! Double dose that HCGenerate for a few days until you feels better then just take the recommended dose there after and your wood should be back in business
 
I'm on hrt@200 mg weekly..ran 40 mg anavar for 8-9 weeks..at first had crazy mad hardons then seemed to shut down..
 
Update..now just about done w 2 nd var run@ 30-40 daily..been using hcgenerate throughout, and libido/nuts are going strong
 
lol at this entire thread.

everyone has a different opinion what 'shut down' means. just cause you have a libido doesn't mean you aren't 'shut down'

these types of threads are dangerous IMO.

the only way for you to know if you are suppressed is running bloods and seeing where your LH levels are.. NOT YOUR TEST LEVELS, your LH levels. and if you were to do that I will bet any amount of money you can borrow and get that your LH would in fact be suppressed on anavar at more than 5 weeks UNLESS its bunk. last i checked it was a male hormone correct? and it was an anabolic/androgenic steroids correct? hence YES it will suppress you.

having said that the thread title should be changed to "Who has suffered libido problems on anavar yes or not" .. cause most guys who responded I guarantee never ran bloods to answer the question that was asked.
 
In studies, virtually all of the benefits with var were seen in the first 6 weeks. In werks 7-12 there was very little change in either fat loss or muscle gain from running it longer...
 
my first cylce was an anavar only cycle and i had no idea what i was doing.It supressed me BIGTIME. Yes it will supress you.
 
Nothing has ever shut me down libido wise, I've ran deca for 10 weeks no test, and was banging pussy non stop... I fortunate, aas makes me a sex fiend, and I've tried everything...

But I was shut down on blood work regardless when it comes to lh and fsh and it never effected my libido. That's where the use of natty herbs and supplements come in, as well as hcg...
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