Seems like everyone "forgets" to take before pics, or rarely shows after pics.
For someone like me, who is trying to learn as much as possible about certain cycles of aas and ph's, there doesn't seem to be a lot of logs out there. ON top of that, they always seem fishy or promoted comments lol
Then in come the "experts" who lay out the ultimate cycle and PCT with direct links to the sites to get them from. Everything is obvious fishy promotion.
Which sucks for a lot of new people trying to learn. Which makes me come to my conclusion, if I don't really know what I'm putting into my body, or the results and don't see concrete reviews on these things (ie that new-ish GK line of PH's), then I shouldn't bother.
That's just my 2 cents.
Honestly, I'd be ready to go with one of these things as I was interested in Oxvandrovar for example, but info on it is scarce to this point. Which is scary considering it's been out for a while now. And all I come across is a couple dudes "logs".