Dermacrine Buy One Get One Free!!

[SuperOne]

Great question caleb's tree, i was wondering the same thing.


I know we can control the increase in E2 via AI's, but was wondering about the direct conversion from androstenedione to estrone/estrogen.


Also, how much can Dermacrine increase Progesterone via the conversion from pregnenolone? My Progesterone levels are at the highest end of the normal range at 0.8 (range 0.1-0.8) and im worried that Dermacrine might possibly send my Progesterone into the high range.


Thanks.

 

[bigdofba]

I just got mine in the mail today. Can't wait to start using it.

Do you guys use the spray pump or lotion pump?

 

[needtogetaas]

PP, yes I was looking at a legal stack'

Have been reading and thinking a lot about 8 week legal stack

Doing Dermacrine,
MCC
Lipo
Phyto
Amplify

Sustain for PCT.

What is PP's Lean Stack Lineup?


Also...big question here.

Because DHEA is converted to androstenedione and then testosterone, it has two chances to aromatize into estrogen- estrone from androstenedione, and estradiol from testosterone. As such, it increases estrogen levels more than testosterone in men.

Is there something in Dermacrine that can help prevent the elevated DHEA that it causes once it converts into andorstendione and then into test, from aromatizing into estrogen?

before and 2 weeks after reg durma. Test and dhea was very low. Estron was very high. After 2 weeks test was nearly 2x higher,dhea was nearly 5x higher and estro was lowered. Staying on this course for another 2 weeks I am sure you can see where it was going.

Fortunately, Dermacrine limits estrogen synthesis by including the Phyto Aromatase Inhibitor (Phyto AI) complex, consisting of three potent plant based aromatase inhibitors, namely 7,8 benzoflavone, chrysin and resveratrol.42,43 These flavonoids directly compete with aromatizing androgens for interaction with the aromatase enzyme as well as inhibit the production of the aromatase enzyme itself.44,45 As a result, estrogen is kept down , and the steroidogenic enzymes are kept up, therefore making Dermcrine one complete hormone rejuvenator

Another mechanism by which Dermacrine increases androgen production is by reducing estrogens and preventing negative feedback upon the hypothalamus pituitary testicular axis (HPTA). Our proprietary Phyto Aromatase Inhibitor complex (Phyto AI) effectively inhibits the aromatase enzyme (CYP 19) and reduces estrogen.42,43,44,45 In fact, chrysin, 7,8 benzoflavone, and resveratrol have been successfully used in animal studies to increase sperm count and fertility by inhibiting estrogen, and increasing testosterone.53,54 These animal studies also noted an "aphrodisiac" like property from these flavones, which makes sense since chrysin and 7,8 benzoflavone are the main active constituents of passion flower (passiflora incarnate) which has long been known to posses aphrodisiac like properties and has been prescribed for sexual disorders in other countries.15,16

Most importantly, the above animal studies also noted increases in both LH & FSH.53,54 As you may be aware, LH is a hormone sent from the pituitary which stimulates the testis to produce androgens, such as testosterone. Less known by most, is the importance of FSH. Without adequate FSH, LH would quickly desensitize the testis and androgen production would come to a halt, since FSH sensitizes the testis to the effects of LH by increasing the number of LH receptors in the testis.

Also dermacrines
7,8 benzoflavone,chrysin, and resveratrol Have positive effects on both etrogen and progesterone levels.

 

[SuperOne]

I really wish Dermacrine would include something to minimize Estradiol (E2) levels.


A lot of people get increased E2 from DHEA including me and some other people's lab work ive seen online.



Also, as far as i know the only thing to decrease or antagonize Progesterone is DHT or DHT related compounds like Winny, Masteron, Proviron,ect.

 

[Primordial Performance]

PP, yes I was looking at a legal stack'

Have been reading and thinking a lot about 8 week legal stack

Doing Dermacrine,
MCC
Lipo
Phyto
Amplify

Sustain for PCT.

What is PP's Lean Stack Lineup?


Also...big question here.

Because DHEA is converted to androstenedione and then testosterone, it has two chances to aromatize into estrogen- estrone from androstenedione, and estradiol from testosterone. As such, it increases estrogen levels more than testosterone in men.

Is there something in Dermacrine that can help prevent the elevated DHEA that it causes once it converts into andorstendione and then into test, from aromatizing into estrogen?

Yes, it’s the Resveratrol, 7,8 Benzoflavone and Chrysin that help prevent this aromatization.

Even if you have a minor increase in E1 or E2 your gains from Dermacrine are going to be very lean. Your going to be burning body fat, as you put on lean muscle. Guys generally are dropping 1-2% of BF in 4-8 weeks without changing anything in their diet or workout program.

The Lean Muscle Stack is going to give you the Phyto-Test, Dermacrine and Sustain that you need.

-Pp

 

[Primordial Performance]

Great question caleb's tree, i was wondering the same thing.


I know we can control the increase in E2 via AI's, but was wondering about the direct conversion from androstenedione to estrone/estrogen.


Also, how much can Dermacrine increase Progesterone via the conversion from pregnenolone? My Progesterone levels are at the highest end of the normal range at 0.8 (range 0.1-0.8) and im worried that Dermacrine might possibly send my Progesterone into the high range.


Thanks.

AI’s will block the conversion of Adione to Estrone too. (not completely block it, but it will help prevent it from going too high)

Dermacrine may increase your progesterone beyond the normal range at the standard dose, but Dermacrine is also going to increase a dozen other hormones beyond the normal range too, including the androgenic hormones that block the “feminizing” side effects of progesterone.

The progesterone just helps control the 5a-reductase and excessive DHT formation. It’s all a complex balancing act.

-Pp

 

[Caleb's Tree]

Yes, it’s the Resveratrol, 7,8 Benzoflavone and Chrysin that help prevent this aromatization.

Even if you have a minor increase in E1 or E2 your gains from Dermacrine are going to be very lean. Your going to be burning body fat, as you put on lean muscle. Guys generally are dropping 1-2% of BF in 4-8 weeks without changing anything in their diet or workout program.

The Lean Muscle Stack is going to give you the Phyto-Test, Dermacrine and Sustain that you need.

-Pp

So if I wanted to get the lean muscle stack, instead of a 2 for 1 derma deal coming up, I could substitute a Phyto or Sustain instead and save a little? That'd be swell...BTW....I am going to my Doc to get my hormone profile, and when I do this stack, I will post my hormone levels before and after.

Also, I am wondering if it is cheaper to do a saliva test, or cheaper to have my blood taken at the doc. Guess it depends if my insurance covers it.

I might not post here much guys but I am reading and learning. I appreciate the responses and the good info I get from you all when I do post.

 

[sixxxshoooter]

Where does it talk about Buy one get one free? Didnt see that.

 

[needtogetaas]

I really wish Dermacrine would include something to minimize Estradiol (E2) levels.


A lot of people get increased E2 from DHEA including me and some other people's lab work ive seen online.



Also, as far as i know the only thing to decrease or antagonize Progesterone is DHT or DHT related compounds like Winny, Masteron, Proviron,ect.

Throwing in some unleashed would take care of any of the problems you are talking about. derma/prov is a nice stalk to. Also a lot of people have been using derma/havoc for the same reasons.

 

[Gardenstateguy]

Throwing in some unleashed would take care of any of the problems you are talking about. derma/prov is a nice stalk to. Also a lot of people have been using derma/havoc for the same reasons.

So is this deal legit cause I want to buy some Dermacrine? Is there a discount or a combo deal with the Taco8??

thanks