deca for my first cycle? trying to get to 200lbs

[Bigpimpin10]

i havent seen a thread like this before...the person asking for advice is actually agreeing!!...normally people just leave.. and go to a different board..because there not getting the answers they want
well done bro!!..

 

[Bigpimpin10]

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[RADAR]

Deca Is a nandrolone that can linger in your body up to 18 months, Deca Dick is no fun, As far as opinions everyone has one, BUT! like opinions -everyones responds differently to the compounds used, I would go with Test Eth or cyp for a first cycle or Dbol, use one compound so you can see how your body reacts, and you can take proper protocols.

RADAR

 

[RADAR]

As far as trying to get to 200lbs-------train like a madman, eat like a hog,and sleep like a corpse!

RADAR

 

[Chrisco915]

There is not reason you can't do Test and Deca at the same time. Depending on how you feel and your level of trainging you could run 400mg of Test E or C and 200mg of Deca and still see phenominal gains. heck you are in the HRT age range and probably could also benefit from having your test levels tested.

 

[RADAR]

The benefits are

1: greater nitrogen retention
2: greater protein synthesis
3: minimal HPTA shutdown
4: Synovial fluid production for the joints
5: minimal amount for maximal results
a. basically the body is only going to be capable of handling so much AAS for a particular user. this has MUCH to do with the level of muscularity of the user, the amount off AAS use he has done in his past, receptor sensitivity, level of the athlete, etc.. For the novice user his body simply cannot absorb and utilize very much AAS. But the small amount he does put in will have PROFOUND effects on his system from a anabolic and hypertrophic perspective. The downside of doing stronger androgens with a new user are the sides(fact is he wont know how he will respond at all to AAS), receptor sesitivy downgrade( meaning in future cycles he will need to take MORE to see more results. and why waste a growth threshold?) amongst many many other reasons


fact is. I have seen tons of guys do a deca only cycle for their first cycle. pack on 20-30 lbs of muscle mas in 8 weeks with very little HPTA inhibition.
win win situation right?

if it aint broke...

I'm not disagreeing with you my friend but at 58 thats not an option for me, solid advice for the younger bucks tho!

RADAR

 

[702daswoll1]

why's that? i'm not to sure on what my body fat is, i guess 15%. what does it look like from the pic like 20 percent? my problem with cutting now is losing strength.

That pic is really hard to see since im not plat but you dont look like you are 20% in that pic. 15-17% prolly. I think that you would be fine running deca on your first cycle. Its a great drug. Most around here beleive that you should only run test for your first cycle for a few different reasons but mainly just to see how your body responds to the sides which will give you a reference point for future cycles. Not everyone gets deca dick but it is possible. You will also need a progesterone ai like letrozole as apposed to arimidex. Try running 300mg every week for 10 weeks. You only need to shoot it 1X per week. Start your clomid no sooner than 2 weeks after your last deca shot at 50mg ed. YOu should be fine.
On the flip side you could run some test with it at say 250mg ew. If you do that drop your Deca dose down to match the test dose or even a bit lower. Im gonna get flamed for recommending a newb stack compounds on their first run but OHH WELL..

Good luck bro and PM me if you need anything at all.

 

[chainsaw61]

well, i'm gonna soon be ordering my stuff.. (yeah, so much for waiting a while.... ) and i am gonna go with a test only cycle. i'm gonna go with Test E. now, i was gonna get enough to do 500mg a week for 10 weeks. but still considering a low dose test cycle with 250mg a week. i got my buddy saying do a low dose, and most ppl on here say 500mg a week. so.. not sure.. but i want this first cycle to be worth my while. although right now my biggest concern is getting the right PCT. i was gonna get Clomid, and probally will get that.. but what should i have on hand for a PCT off this test cycle besides the clomid? what do most people use as a pct on a test only cycle?

That pic is really hard to see since im not plat but you dont look like you are 20% in that pic. 15-17% prolly. I think that you would be fine running deca on your first cycle. Its a great drug. Most around here beleive that you should only run test for your first cycle for a few different reasons but mainly just to see how your body responds to the sides which will give you a reference point for future cycles. Not everyone gets deca dick but it is possible. You will also need a progesterone ai like letrozole as apposed to arimidex. Try running 300mg every week for 10 weeks. You only need to shoot it 1X per week. Start your clomid no sooner than 2 weeks after your last deca shot at 50mg ed. YOu should be fine.
On the flip side you could run some test with it at say 250mg ew. If you do that drop your Deca dose down to match the test dose or even a bit lower. Im gonna get flamed for recommending a newb stack compounds on their first run but OHH WELL..

Good luck bro and PM me if you need anything at all.

 

[walliwalibus]

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Read and research.... then when you do that, read and research again. Then, when you do that, read and research again. You'll find that Test only is the recommended here. Some agree, some disagree. Do you know why it's recommended? Do you know what its doing to your body? Do you understand PCT, and why I would choose something besides clomid (though I don't know yet)? I don't know man...... wouldn't 250 mgs of test do ya fine?

 

[chainsaw61]

why a test only cycle? well, so far from reading on here it seems to be a good way to see how your body is gonna react to a cycle. any more info on why its recommended would be great. i'm just looking for something simple and less expensive with less chance for sides. as far as 250mg a week, it sounds like a good idea.. because i was watching bigger, faster, stronger the other day.. about to watch it again... there was somebody on there saying the average man produces like something near 75mg a week.. (not sure the exact number they said) anyway.. considering i'm the average man.. even if i'm doing 250mg a week test.. it would seem to me that thats still alot more test than around what my body is producing on its own therefore i should see some gains.. but i was reading a bit here Primoteston testosterone enanthate Anabolic Steroid Profile and that study was pretty much saying that more test = more gains. i do understand what its doing to my body and why a PCT is necessary, i just don't understand what i should get to pct with test. what should i look into? clomid is what the 'other' guys at the gym use and seem to be fine with it.. but from reading on here i see its not good enough. i need something else. so why would i choose something besides clomid? and yeah.. wouldn't 250 mgs of test do me just fine? it seems i read one thing, then go somwheres else and hear the exact opposite. making it hard, and sometimes frustrating on what info to go on.
let the flames begin.. lol

Ladies and gentleman, another great test commercial brought to you by the new guy who joined in oct 2008.

Read and research.... then when you do that, read and research again. Then, when you do that, read and research again. You'll find that Test only is the recommended here. Some agree, some disagree. Do you know why it's recommended? Do you know what its doing to your body? Do you understand PCT, and why I would choose something besides clomid (though I don't know yet)? I don't know man...... wouldn't 250 mgs of test do ya fine?