deca and anavar only

[stevesmi]

you shouldn't run deca at 21 period as a first cycle.

forget it. its a very stingy and long ester and its just not a good idea for someone who doesn't know what they are doing.

you are only 150 pounds and trying to do a short cut, i know exactly what you are thinking. build a base first.

 

[shirlene29]

^^^ agreed

work on getting to maximum genetic potential first then consider gear

go google that...theres a million calculators for figuring it out.

 

[Essie]

If you use Deca without Test, your ability to get an erection will be SERIOUSLY impeded. You will look at the most beautiful women you have ever seen with the closest bodies to perfect imagineable, but you won't get it up. If you want to use Deca you have to add Test - period. Another thing about Deca, even if you run Test with it, is that it is one of the compounds which is the hardest to recover from after your cycle is over. It can be recovered from fully, but your on-cycle support and your PCT HAS TO BE SPOT ON!

To answer your question ... No, do not use Deca without a Test.

 

[noodles1010]

^^^ strongly agree. Getting blood drawn as we speak because of that bitch named deca. Death to deca! Never again lol

 

[Jbranken]

^^^ strongly agree. Getting blood drawn as we speak because of that bitch named deca. Death to deca! Never again lol

Lmfao! Gl with your deca dick bro

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ strongly agree. Getting blood drawn as we speak because of that bitch named deca. Death to deca! Never again lol

you ran test with deca but still have problems because of the progesterone..

so to essie above NO running test does not help with deca dick. that is dangerous and wreckless advice to give.

test does NOT block progesterone, i have to post this over and over and the guys that ignore this advice end up in big trouble. test will actually make progesterone WORSE!!! because test aromatizes!!

gotta run anti-prolactin + a lot of AI's.. i recommend a caber, forma, aromasin stack with any cycle involving 'deca' from day 1. don't wait until you start noticing issues. and never ever touch nolva when dealing with deca. seen a lot of guys get gyno AFTER cycle because they used nolva and still had a small amount of deca esters in their system

and you actually would LESSEN the chance of deca dick running deca alone without test. because deca by itself would aromatize far less than if you would stack it with test. and then people stack dbol on top of that.. good lord i have seen guys with 350 estradiol levels on that stack even WITH an AI. and you wonder why deca dick is so common

 

[noodles1010]

Lmfao! Gl with your deca dick bro

nahhh gtfo wit that shit lmao.

i ran deca test and var... my problem is test recovery... pct was botched. here i am a year later still bouncing test levels back...
i feel so much better than i used to... ran like 4 pcts this year. and got a little better each time
progesterone, prolactin, estradiol,ect ect is all a ok. my lh and fsh is ok.. just test was low. 326 last time. pre cycle was about 432 so even then i was a tad low @ 29 yrs old. now im 30. well see... ill post up results on my log on that in the next week.


running test on deca cycles just helps the overall cycle, the AIs are fucking key tho like steve said. the more compounds u add to a cycle the more sides you are open to. some compounds actually enhance the sides of other compounds because ur hitting them double time now if that makes sense.
point is, u can do whatever u want really as long as the ai is on point... doesnt mean its a good idea tho and that u cant get better results another way, you can. there is always more than 1 way to skin a cat

 

[ledhead]

I would not even waste my time giving this kid/guy any advice; he is going to do it regardless of how many people come in here in tell him his cycle will indeed be detrimental to his health. It is called," irrespective of evidence to the contrary." 3rd grade psychology works best on these boards; if everyone would tell him his cycle is good he probably would not do it.

 

[RADAR]

Some people get Deca Dick regardless what compounds you add to try to prevent it ,and guess what Deca lingers in your body up to 18 months,so you might as well forget about girls for a while....Heck the vadican is looking for a new pope you should sign up!

 

[wootoom]

How old is this guy...sounds young