Dangerous excercises for your 'Cuffs'

[b fold the truth]

makedah: I believe that a lot of people use the statement "that exercise is too dangerous" or "I just can't do those anymore because of a ***** injury", etc... I think that it is mostly a load of crap excuse not to do some exercises...OR...they are blaming the exercise instead of their bad form.

I did behind the neck presses for years (when I had a place to do them) and grew like a freaking weed from them. Never had any shoulder problems (because I did them under control and trained my rotator cuffs always).

If there are exercises which put YOUR body into a strain or hurt YOU, then do them more intelligently. Use lighter weights, not to failure (or anywhere near), improve your form, and increase the stability of the problem joint.

Find a way...not an excuse.

B True

 

[DrBones]

Thanks for all the great info everyone!
Keep it coming
Thanks
Ryan

 

[makedah]

That's clearer. Thanks B Fold!

 

[onemind]

You realy should do no behind the neck exercise like pull downs or presses. Use a machine for shoulder presses. Also incline skull crushers are realy bad. When you bench with a barbell don't let your elbows go past paralell with your back. Those I think are the major ones to avoid but I say any exercise you feel pain in that joint discontinue. Bfold may be right about a few of his opinions but the fact is that once you have a problem you need to stop doing certain things like the exercises I just listed and yes I speak from experience I had bicep tendonitous but have fully recoverd but will not do any of the exercises I listed above.

 

[ZZuluZ]

I agree completely with Bfold.

NO exercise is intriniscally dangerous. It all depends on technique, individuality and a myriad of other factors.

-Zulu

 

[makedah]

This is the problem I have with the claim that no exercise is inherently dangerous.

I or some other person could come up with a whole slew of exercises, either with no knowledge of how the body works or with flawed knowledge. Those exercises -- even if they catch on -- could be dangerous, couldn't they? And if that's so, couldn't that apply to some of the exercises that are popular today?

 

[b fold the truth]

"Nothing is dangerous (within reason) if done properly and you properly train your body to do it."

Just in case anyone missed what I said in my first post...

onemind: Nothing behind the head? Machines for shoulders? Never go deep on bench presses? You must be kidding!!! I guess if you don't want to get big either...it MIGHT work. Train smart...with caution...but you can't be afraid of everything in the gym.

makedah: If the body bends a certain way...it is not dangerous. If you go out of control on your new exercise, use too much weight without joint and body preperation, and become too "jerky" with the movement...it can be and probably will be bad for your body. Remember...train your body to handle all kinds of stressors...and increase slowly.

Just look at some of the events that I do...most bodybuilders and trainers think that you should do everything with a straight back. How practical is that??? On the football field you don't have a straight back....it is rounded. We do the stones with a rounded back, tire flilp and conan's wheel with a rounded back...and most elderly people hurt their back when it is rounded and they are bent over... Why don't we spend more time training our back in a rounded fashion...strengthening it at it's weakest point(s).

B True

 

[lemur]

ZZuluZ, all the things I've listed are not set in stone, nor are they from personal experience, so I can't really say. I can say, however, that barbell bench seems to irritate my cuffs during the lower portion of the movement. Whether or not this is caused by the movement itself or merely irritated by it I don't know, so I don't have a straight answer for you. I may be entirely wrong.

 

[ZZuluZ]

Makedah, how does that contest what I've been saying?

-Zulu

 

[onemind]

"Nothing is dangerous (within reason) if done properly and you properly train your body to do it."

Just in case anyone missed what I said in my first post...

onemind: Nothing behind the head? Machines for shoulders? Never go deep on bench presses? You must be kidding!!! I guess if you don't want to get big either...it MIGHT work. Train smart...with caution...but you can't be afraid of everything in the gym.

makedah: If the body bends a certain way...it is not dangerous. If you go out of control on your new exercise, use too much weight without joint and body preperation, and become too "jerky" with the movement...it can be and probably will be bad for your body. Remember...train your body to handle all kinds of stressors...and increase slowly.

Just look at some of the events that I do...most bodybuilders and trainers think that you should do everything with a straight back. How practical is that??? On the football field you don't have a straight back....it is rounded. We do the stones with a rounded back, tire flilp and conan's wheel with a rounded back...and most elderly people hurt their back when it is rounded and they are bent over... Why don't we spend more time training our back in a rounded fashion...strengthening it at it's weakest point(s).

B True

NO I am not kidding Bfold. I didn't know you had a PHD because the doctors who gave me these guidelines sure did. You can get big useing the guidelines I posted I am liveing proof. It has nothing to do with being afraid trust me I have been training on and off for 14 years and I am not afraid of any exercise but like I said I had impengment problems and I got bicep tendonitous from it and theguidelines I posted are the best ways to avoid tendonitous. You post like you the all knowing Bfold and guess what your not all knowing.