Dammit, I Have A Prob...

[GOLUAN]

well..i know im going to hear some bitching about this...my buddy i havent seen in about 2 years came over last night..and he brought over some beer and herb...well, my last injection was on thursday...so i decided to drink a little..and smoke a little..i rarely smoke or drink..i got blazed! So later through the night he pulled out some coke...I told him i quit the shit...i use to be addicted to coke and meth..i was six 2 and 130lbs...so he was like okay...well peer pressure is a bitch....He cut out one line and did it...he asked me again if i wanted one...so dumb ass me said "yes" I thought i was only going to do one line..Through out the night i did another and another...He decided to go home and left the shit for me....I did all that shit! It was about 2 grams...Now im freaking out because my blood pressure is high and im afraid of the sides of coke and gear...Does anyone know what the sides are...Im never doing this shit again...Go ahead and flame me...i deserve it..Let me know if this is going to fuck up anything...i guess im being paranoid..but better safe than sorry...thanks guys!

 

[letsrun4it]

Just relax man, I'd seek treatment for the addiction before it takes over your body again. Drink lots of water and take care of the addiction the interaction with the gear is not your biggest problem. please take care of yourself.

 

[chefbone]

Just keep your nose clean...the interaction of the drugs will not destroy the progress your training has given you..just your sobriety. Keep it real dude!!!

 

[GOLUAN]

well, im not addicted anymore...it was just there...so i did the shit...

 

[drrman]

man oh man, don't worry about one night bro......i went through about a year of addiction to that shit......and im not proud to say i did a few cycles during it.......and i did some MUCH worse shit than what you just did.........just don't make a habbit of it, and relax......shit has probably got your anxiety through the roof, which is whats making you feel worse than the coke did.......lay down, smoke you another joint if need be and relax!

 

[GOLUAN]

yeah, im still fucked up...hahaha..i threw the rest of the shit down the toilet..it was about 5 grams worth...thanks guys...so I dont have to worry about any side from mixing gear and coke right?

 

[drrman]

and another thing......if you ever go to an NPC show after party, you'll see most all of the pro's that everyone thinks are so perfect and are so great get so fucked up on X, G, coke and K its unbelievable......i've seen chris cormier so fucked up he couldn't even pronounce his own name.......and he wasn't drunk, he was drinking water all night!

those guys party as hard as they juice!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

drink water, lots of it. relax.

 

[drrman]

yeah, im still fucked up...hahaha..i threw the rest of the shit down the toilet..it was about 5 grams worth...thanks guys...so I dont have to worry about any side from mixing gear and coke right?

fuck, trashed 5 grams huh, your boy must be a hell of a friend to leave you a 1/4 ounce for free!....did 2 and trashed 5! thats a good bit of blow.......better off with it in the toilet anyways, shit is always hard to look at and not do!

good call on trashing it!......you'll be ok

 

[Bruce]

yep, pull it out and no matter what i said earlier i''d do it. i can't mess with it anymore cause i lose 10 lbs after one nights use, but you are fine, 5 grams is a lot. the limit for a person is 1.5 grams, then again george jung claimed he snorted 10 grams in 10 minutes. go figure.

 

[drrman]

yep, pull it out and no matter what i said earlier i''d do it. i can't mess with it anymore cause i lose 10 lbs after one nights use, but you are fine, 5 grams is a lot. the limit for a person is 1.5 grams, then again george jung claimed he snorted 10 grams in 10 minutes. go figure.

the 1.5 gram limit is not true......i can tell you from experience...LOL

anyways, one time won't kill ya no, but it definitely won't help ya, shit will rip off muscle faster than anything i know of

 

[BigCracker]

the 1.5 gram limit is not true......i can tell you from experience...LOL

Me too.

Don't sweat it. It's the anxiety from coming down and your guilt for going off the wagon that's fucking w/ you. Luckily for me, drugs like coke and booze fuck w/ my training too much to ever be a daily part of my life. Who knows where I'd be w/o BB? Probably the Betty Ford Clinic?

 

[glassman21]

man oh man, don't worry about one night bro......i went through about a year of addiction to that shit......and im not proud to say i did a few cycles during it.......and i did some MUCH worse shit than what you just did.........just don't make a habbit of it, and relax......shit has probably got your anxiety through the roof, which is whats making you feel worse than the coke did.......lay down, smoke you another joint if need be and relax!

It's just anxiety bro. You're goiong to be fine. As a fellow addict...in (recovery) I don't have to tell you how counterproductive that shit is and I don't have to tell you how quickly just a line or two can get you right back in the mix. One good sign is that it doesn't sound as if it was as much fun and you definitely feel bad about it today...eventually even the thought of it will be repulsive. hang in there. Stay strong. Don't beat yourself up about it. just learn form it and save yourself all the worry the next time the opportunity arises. It's not worth all stress. When I was addicted to coke and meth and ghb I was on a cycle just to keep on a little weight. I dropped to 150 lbs and was 6'1".....the worst thing that will happen is that you will start missing workouts and meals...and sleep which is very important. The drugs mixing will not harm you but will fuck up your program. Good luck man.

 

[BigCracker]

It's just anxiety bro. You're goiong to be fine. As a fellow addict...in (recovery) I don't have to tell you how counterproductive that shit is and I don't have to tell you how quickly just a line or two can get you right back in the mix. One good sign is that it doesn't sound as if it was as much fun and you definitely feel bad about it today...eventually even the thought of it will be repulsive. hang in there.

Yeah, Coke is absolutely repulsive to me, but for some reason I still love how it smells.

 

[chefbone]

Yeah, Coke is absolutely repulsive to me, but for some reason I still love how it smells.

For real....I did 2g's in one smell and walked around the block for five hours, hitting up everyones apartments 4 or 5 times

 

[BOWTECH]

Hey Bro just hang in there. It's behind you now just stay away from that SHIT totally. Everyone falls down from time to time just get back on your feet and move forward. I have never tried any of that stuff it just dosen't appeal to me. Now 3cc of test that's a different story.....lol

 

[DBBT]

yep, pull it out and no matter what i said earlier i''d do it. i can't mess with it anymore cause i lose 10 lbs after one nights use, but you are fine, 5 grams is a lot. the limit for a person is 1.5 grams, then again george jung claimed he snorted 10 grams in 10 minutes. go figure.

jung was tight i believe that shit.

 

[Bruce]

the 1.5 gram limit is not true......i can tell you from experience...LOL

anyways, one time won't kill ya no, but it definitely won't help ya, shit will rip off muscle faster than anything i know of

for sure, i swear the last time i did it i was on dbol deca and test, firstly i almost killed a guy for spilling on me. but secondly i lost 10 lbs that night. i woke up and could see in the mirror muscle that was just gone. damn you coke, why are you so tempting.

 

[bca21]

.but better safe than sorry...thanks guys!

if your better safe than sorry, why would you do it. Your fucking smarter than that. Im not being a dick but keep clean man. youll feel better about your self if you walk away tust me.

 

[supra5469]

Don't fall for that "sucker" line....Its never just one line I know it all to well. I think you should be a little more careful with who you hang out with, he doesn't sound like too good of a friend, especially after you turned it down and he kept asking. Can you see the progression... it started with alcohol, then the weed and finally the inevitable. Its like you set the table and then sat down...did you expect not to eat.

Slips happen bro at least your not in denial

 

[jagerbombme]

1.5g thing is def bs, i was dealing the stuff about ten years ago and doing 7grams per day. yea, if your not od'd then just relax and come down and stay away bro, it's fucking garbage. i got lucky and found a good woman ten years ago who wouldn't tolerate the shit and told me either coke or her, needless to say i quit the shit. but to stay quit i had to quit the people. i have some friends now who are occasional users, i have seen them doing it, had it offered, had it in front of me, i just get the fuck outta there. it's garbage, plus i got two beautiful kids now so i could never chance it.

i can't believe i even took the risk of gear, in my first cycle, just did my second shot an hour ago. all is well, liking it. but still, it was kinda not worth the risk of being poison or anything, glad i found this place, where i found out my brand has never been faked or fucked with.


good luck quitting bro. i can barely smoke herbs anymore i get so paranoid. hehe i love pot though

 

[glassman21]

1.5g thing is def bs, i was dealing the stuff about ten years ago and doing 7grams per day. yea, if your not od'd then just relax and come down and stay away bro, it's fucking garbage. i got lucky and found a good woman ten years ago who wouldn't tolerate the shit and told me either coke or her, needless to say i quit the shit. but to stay quit i had to quit the people. i have some friends now who are occasional users, i have seen them doing it, had it offered, had it in front of me, i just get the fuck outta there. it's garbage, plus i got two beautiful kids now so i could never chance it.

i can't believe i even took the risk of gear, in my first cycle, just did my second shot an hour ago. all is well, liking it. but still, it was kinda not worth the risk of being poison or anything, glad i found this place, where i found out my brand has never been faked or fucked with.


good luck quitting bro. i can barely smoke herbs anymore i get so paranoid. hehe i love pot though

That's alot of blow...glad you made it through. I know alot who didn't.

 

[jagerbombme]

That's alot of blow...glad you made it through. I know alot who didn't.

hehe, thanks, when your making 2-3K per day, you can afford to do as much as you want, so it got outta control bad. i was getting all geek'd and stoned and racing around on my crotch rocket,


stupid kids hehe. i would wake up and start doing blow and do it all day until 4 am. i quit my job cause i thought i would be a drug dealer. im just glad i never got caught with 1/2 pound of coke and 4-6 pounds of weed on me. i woulda been doing some type of mandatory minimum im quite sure and my whole life woulda went down the toilet cause of the criminal BUISNESS this country has in effect.

 

[Recruit]

Good luck getting through this bro., and if you need help check out the ads on your first post...

 

[glassman21]

hehe, thanks, when your making 2-3K per day, you can afford to do as much as you want, so it got outta control bad. i was getting all geek'd and stoned and racing around on my crotch rocket,


stupid kids hehe. i would wake up and start doing blow and do it all day until 4 am. i quit my job cause i thought i would be a drug dealer. im just glad i never got caught with 1/2 pound of coke and 4-6 pounds of weed on me. i woulda been doing some type of mandatory minimum im quite sure and my whole life woulda went down the toilet cause of the criminal BUISNESS this country has in effect.

Yeah I know all about it. Did you say that you just started your first cycle?

 

[mlong23]

well, im not addicted anymore...it was just there...so i did the shit...

Sounds to me like you got the itch, so you had to sratch it.

This is why I never tried anything harder than weed. Too afraid of getting hooked on some crazy shit.

 

[big_griff]

Slips happen bro at least your not in denial

Agree with above, we all fuk up man in some way or another. we are all pullin for ya bro, keep with the training and packin on that bad ass MASS!

Don't let it get ya down.

 

[Advisor_x]

Shit Like This Make Us Look Bad....for Us That We Live A Clean Life

 

[BigRupe]

well..i know im going to hear some bitching about this...my buddy i havent seen in about 2 years came over last night..and he brought over some beer and herb...well, my last injection was on thursday...so i decided to drink a little..and smoke a little..i rarely smoke or drink..i got blazed! So later through the night he pulled out some coke...I told him i quit the shit...i use to be addicted to coke and meth..i was six 2 and 130lbs...so he was like okay...well peer pressure is a bitch....He cut out one line and did it...he asked me again if i wanted one...so dumb ass me said "yes" I thought i was only going to do one line..Through out the night i did another and another...He decided to go home and left the shit for me....I did all that shit! It was about 2 grams...Now im freaking out because my blood pressure is high and im afraid of the sides of coke and gear...Does anyone know what the sides are...Im never doing this shit again...Go ahead and flame me...i deserve it..Let me know if this is going to fuck up anything...i guess im being paranoid..but better safe than sorry...thanks guys!

Valium might help

 

[Trojan Horse]

If you want to get clean from that shit you have to cut off the ties of the friends that are on it. This so-called friend you have provided you with the shit and you didn't have the will power to stay away from it. As long as you are near it you are succeptible to using. Get clean, hydrate yourself and like I said, keep away from users even if they are or were your friends. It's just going to lead you down the same path.

 

[jagerbombme]

Yeah I know all about it. Did you say that you just started your first cycle?

yea, running test e 250 ew and var 60mg ed

might throw in 250 test cyp ew also, thinking hard about it hehe

 

[BigCracker]

1.5g thing is def bs, i was dealing the stuff about ten years ago and doing 7grams per day. yea, if your not od'd then just relax and come down and stay away bro, it's fucking garbage. i got lucky and found a good woman ten years ago who wouldn't tolerate the shit and told me either coke or her, needless to say i quit the shit. but to stay quit i had to quit the people. i have some friends now who are occasional users, i have seen them doing it, had it offered, had it in front of me, i just get the fuck outta there. it's garbage, plus i got two beautiful kids now so i could never chance it.

i can't believe i even took the risk of gear, in my first cycle, just did my second shot an hour ago. all is well, liking it. but still, it was kinda not worth the risk of being poison or anything, glad i found this place, where i found out my brand has never been faked or fucked with.


good luck quitting bro. i can barely smoke herbs anymore i get so paranoid. hehe i love pot though

Don't sweat AAS in IL. Possession is still a misdemeanor(last I heard anyway?). It's not like CPS would take your kids away over it. Even if you were to get popped, you'll be able to get charges exponged off of your record in 2 yrs. The only way it could affect you long term if you tried to get a job with the state/government. I grew up in ghetto ass Waukegan. I don't miss it-but I miss IL's drug laws. In Phoenix even possession of weed paraphanelia (w/ residue) is a felony that will get you a night in jail and cost over $2500 in fines and 1 yr of drug testing(1st offense). Cops will never let it slide either. Paraphanelia or even a 1/2 gram of stems/seeds will get you taken to jail every time-no exceptions. The funny part is that if you drive 5 hrs Northwest to Cali, possession of under an oz of weed is a mail in ticket. You don't even need to go to court. Yet the cops here that bust you for weed treat you like a child molester/murderer.

 

[glassman21]

yea, running test e 250 ew and var 60mg ed

might throw in 250 test cyp ew also, thinking hard about it hehe

I'm no pro but from what I do know I'd stick to what you are doing and see how your body reacts before I added anything else...might want to ask around ....

 

[glassman21]

Valium might help

Never ever mix Valium with Coke. I know alot of people do it but they are ignorant. Valium works with your nervous system and is a very powerful drug. It sends signals to your brain to regulate your heart rate and slow it down, the coke does just the opposite and your heart gets confused. One chemical says speed up the other says slow down and makes it very easy for you to go into cardiac arrest. Too many mixed signals. Zanax is safe..Zanax is an anti-anxiety and will calm you and bring your heart rate down in a safe way but does not work with your nervous system. My roomate od'd and died on coke and valium. I know what I am talking about. Drugs are for loosers. Period. If you want to be a looser and fuck up your life then go for it. Take it from someone who has been there. Every day you spend partying you will spend getting your life back once you figure out what the fuck you are doing. if you spend three years partying you will spend three years getting it back. it doesn't happen over night.

 

[BigCracker]

I know what I am talking about. Drugs are for loosers. Period. If you want to be a looser and fuck up your life then go for it. Take it from someone who has been there. Every day you spend partying you will spend getting your life back once you figure out what the fuck you are doing. if you spend three years partying you will spend three years getting it back. it doesn't happen over night.

Um...Last time I checked AAS were drugs. I guess I'm a loser? At least I'm a "big" loser. lol


One man's meat is another man's poison. Let's not be hypocritical.

 

[glassman21]

I was talking about mind altering shit Einstein.....coke and shit like that. I used to think it was cool. I'd party with the best of them....coke, meth ghb, tabs, k all that shit....did it get me anywhere? No. Was it fun? Hell yeah. Would I trade the experience or do I regret it? No.....but lets be honest, doing coke and shit like that will only fuck your life up. Lets not start condoning all illegal drugs just because we use AAS. I don't know one person who can say "Wow, after I started using coke my life really got better." Being hypocritical is your responsibility if you have been there and done that. I don't think the guy is a looser and i don't think you are a looser. I was making a point.

 

[drrman]

I was talking about mind altering shit Einstein.....coke and shit like that. I used to think it was cool. I'd party with the best of them....coke, meth ghb, tabs, k all that shit....did it get me anywhere? No. Was it fun? Hell yeah. Would I trade the experience or do I regret it? No.....but lets be honest, doing coke and shit like that will only fuck your life up. Lets not start condoning all illegal drugs just because we use AAS. I don't know one person who can say "Wow, after I started using coke my life really got better." Being hypocritical is your responsibility if you have been there and done that. I don't think the guy is a looser and i don't think you are a looser. I was making a point.

agree with this yes


and i agree with your other post, i spent 3 years partying my ass off and its taken me 2-3 after to get back close to where i want to be

 

[jagerbombme]

Don't sweat AAS in IL. Possession is still a misdemeanor(last I heard anyway?). It's not like CPS would take your kids away over it. Even if you were to get popped, you'll be able to get charges exponged off of your record in 2 yrs. The only way it could affect you long term if you tried to get a job with the state/government. I grew up in ghetto ass Waukegan. I don't miss it-but I miss IL's drug laws. In Phoenix even possession of weed paraphanelia (w/ residue) is a felony that will get you a night in jail and cost over $2500 in fines and 1 yr of drug testing(1st offense). Cops will never let it slide either. Paraphanelia or even a 1/2 gram of stems/seeds will get you taken to jail every time-no exceptions. The funny part is that if you drive 5 hrs Northwest to Cali, possession of under an oz of weed is a mail in ticket. You don't even need to go to court. Yet the cops here that bust you for weed treat you like a child molester/murderer.

hehe, ya, FUCK THAT SHIT. FUCK ARIZONA THEN!

i got busted one time, and one time only, knock on wood with weed, a bowl, and a hitter, i only got one charge of drug paraph which my lawyer got reduced down to possession of cannibas resin which was a 300 dollar charge. hehe. i like illinois ok.

 

[BigCracker]

I was talking about mind altering shit Einstein.....coke and shit like that. I used to think it was cool. I'd party with the best of them....coke, meth ghb, tabs, k all that shit....did it get me anywhere? No. Was it fun? Hell yeah. Would I trade the experience or do I regret it? No.....but lets be honest, doing coke and shit like that will only fuck your life up. Lets not start condoning all illegal drugs just because we use AAS. I don't know one person who can say "Wow, after I started using coke my life really got better." Being hypocritical is your responsibility if you have been there and done that. I don't think the guy is a looser and i don't think you are a looser. I was making a point.

Loser is spelled with only one "o" Einstien. Looser means something completely different(I'll resist temptation of making a rude comment referencing the women in your life). No worries-you're just a product of the USA's public education system.

BTW-I know a lot of cokeheads and tweekers that became millionaires in the white collar world as a direct result of their recreational drug use. Thanks to the drugs, all they do is work-and they sleep as little as possible. Granted this isn't the formula for success for most people, but neither is living at the gym, eating weird foods, sleeping 8 hrs/night, and taking enough roids to kill an elephant.

AAS users are no better than anyone else. We may feel that our lifestyle is superior to a crackhead's, but I don't think we need to be so smug about it.
Now go study for that GED exam you've been putting off since 8th grade.

 

[BigCracker]

hehe, ya, FUCK THAT SHIT. FUCK ARIZONA THEN!

i got busted one time, and one time only, knock on wood with weed, a bowl, and a hitter, i only got one charge of drug paraph which my lawyer got reduced down to possession of cannibas resin which was a 300 dollar charge. hehe. i like illinois ok.

A DUI in AZ is even more outrageous. You're looking at about $12K in attorney fees/court costs, 3 month lic suspension, and 2 weeks in tent city(tent jails in the middle of the desert that get up to 140 degrees in the summer). In jail you get a green bologna sandwich, a small orange, and celery sticks 2x a day. Not exactly conducive to being big.

We do have some nice smooth roads tho-quiet rubberized asphalt. Guess how we pay for it?

 

[glassman21]

Loser is spelled with only one "o" Einstien. Looser means something completely different(I'll resist temptation of making a rude comment referencing the women in your life). No worries-you're just a product of the USA's public education system.

BTW-I know a lot of cokeheads and tweekers that became millionaires in the white collar world as a direct result of their recreational drug use. Thanks to the drugs, all they do is work-and they sleep as little as possible. Granted this isn't the formula for success for most people, but neither is living at the gym, eating weird foods, sleeping 8 hrs/night, and taking enough roids to kill an elephant.

AAS users are no better than anyone else. We may feel that our lifestyle is superior to a crackhead's, but I don't think we need to be so smug about it.
Now go study for that GED exam you've been putting off since 8th grade.

My public education taught me jack shit about what I'm telling you brother...flippin keys and multiple thousands of "boats" along with gallons of "water" taught me this shit bro. I'd rather be free and happy than rich and locked up. Your buddies are a flash in the pan. I am not smug about or think I am better than anyone. I still have friends in the shit. They call me for advice on shit they are buying or selling or cooking. I am not smug to them. I ask them to re-consider the risks they are taking. I may not make the money I made when I was dealing but I am clean and happy and you can not put a price on that. The only drugs I do now are healthy. Yes I said healthy. There is a right way and a wrong way to do AAS. I can tell by your comments that you really don't know what your talking about. You are very uneducated about street drugs....and I don't have the time to teach you so just take my advise and believe me when I tell you it is a dead end street. I am not judging anyone. I am speaking my mind from the experiences I have in hopes to help anyone who is strung out and need some positive advice.

 

[LVTitan]

well, im not addicted anymore...it was just there...so i did the shit...

you havent done any permanent damage bro, but i know i always feel and look smaller for a few days after a coke binge...

just give yourself a week to get back to normal and get past it.. it was just a speedbump along the way to your goal,

it wasnt smart in terms of the body you're trying to achieve but you havent fucked up as much as some people.
you'll be cool bro

 

[BigRupe]

Never ever mix Valium with Coke. I know alot of people do it but they are ignorant. Valium works with your nervous system and is a very powerful drug. It sends signals to your brain to regulate your heart rate and slow it down, the coke does just the opposite and your heart gets confused. One chemical says speed up the other says slow down and makes it very easy for you to go into cardiac arrest. Too many mixed signals. Zanax is safe..Zanax is an anti-anxiety and will calm you and bring your heart rate down in a safe way but does not work with your nervous system. My roomate od'd and died on coke and valium. I know what I am talking about. Drugs are for loosers. Period. If you want to be a looser and fuck up your life then go for it. Take it from someone who has been there. Every day you spend partying you will spend getting your life back once you figure out what the fuck you are doing. if you spend three years partying you will spend three years getting it back. it doesn't happen over night.

Actually valium is often prescribed in case of cocaine over dose. Although there are newer drugs that are used, but if I did too much cocaine I'd use valium if I had no way to go to a hospital.

But then again I don't do coke

http://www.apma-nc.com/PatientEducation/cocaine_overdose.htm

 

[wootoom]

fuck take it easy bro.

 

[LVTitan]

Never ever mix Valium with Coke. I know alot of people do it but they are ignorant. Valium works with your nervous system and is a very powerful drug. It sends signals to your brain to regulate your heart rate and slow it down, the coke does just the opposite and your heart gets confused. One chemical says speed up the other says slow down and makes it very easy for you to go into cardiac arrest. Too many mixed signals. Zanax is safe..Zanax is an anti-anxiety and will calm you and bring your heart rate down in a safe way but does not work with your nervous system. My roomate od'd and died on coke and valium. I know what I am talking about. Drugs are for loosers. Period. If you want to be a looser and fuck up your life then go for it. Take it from someone who has been there. Every day you spend partying you will spend getting your life back once you figure out what the fuck you are doing. if you spend three years partying you will spend three years getting it back. it doesn't happen over night.

yeah i keep xanax around for nights when the coke makes it way to the house..

but please remember guys: NEVER MIX XANAX WITH HEROIN..IT IS LETHAL

and please dont do heroin, i never have, but i've seen it kill people i know

 

[cityhick]

Next time you go to throw that coke away I got a PO for ya. I never liked coke enough to pay for it but its a fun little trip. Just be smart and put yourself in bad situations. If I cant drink.... I dont go out and hang with the guys drinking.

 

[glassman21]

Actually valium is often prescribed in case of cocaine over dose. Although there are newer drugs that are used, but if I did too much cocaine I'd use valium if I had no way to go to a hospital.

But then again I don't do coke

http://www.apma-nc.com/PatientEducation/cocaine_overdose.htm

Maybe at a very low dose...like .25mg I am not bullshitting when I said my roomate died from a mix of coke and valium. He did a lot of coke and had to fly from Chicago to Dallas for a meeting the next morning so he took two Valium to go sleep...he never woke up. No bullshit.

 

[posthuman]

Maybe at a very low dose...like .25mg I am not bullshitting when I said my roomate died from a mix of coke and valium. He did a lot of coke and had to fly from Chicago to Dallas for a meeting the next morning so he took two Valium to go sleep...he never woke up. No bullshit.

You said Xanax doesn't mess with your nervous system unlike Valium. You are very ignorant on these drugs. Xanax and Valium are in the same class of drugs.

 

[instant.muscle]

bro u just gotta realize when u look at that shit whats stronger u or it, i'm proud 2 say ive smoked weed twice in my life and nothing else ever, never touched a drug not even a fucking pain pill, weed and AAS and if i can do it bro u can

 

[paridhm]

Never ever mix Valium with Coke. I know alot of people do it but they are ignorant. Valium works with your nervous system and is a very powerful drug. It sends signals to your brain to regulate your heart rate and slow it down, the coke does just the opposite and your heart gets confused. One chemical says speed up the other says slow down and makes it very easy for you to go into cardiac arrest. Too many mixed signals. Zanax is safe..Zanax is an anti-anxiety and will calm you and bring your heart rate down in a safe way but does not work with your nervous system. My roomate od'd and died on coke and valium. I know what I am talking about. Drugs are for loosers. Period. If you want to be a looser and fuck up your life then go for it. Take it from someone who has been there. Every day you spend partying you will spend getting your life back once you figure out what the fuck you are doing. if you spend three years partying you will spend three years getting it back. it doesn't happen over night.

True that bro. SPEEDBALL

 

[GOLUAN]

Yeah, Im good..thanks guys...i needed some fucken feedback from the shit...I guess the shit was making me paranoid...hahaha..im good now..thanks for you bros helps..its like having another family here...

 

[glassman21]

You said Xanax doesn't mess with your nervous system unlike Valium. You are very ignorant on these drugs. Xanax and Valium are in the same class of drugs.

No they aren't...but that's the most common mistake made when comparing the two so don't feel bad............

 

[drrman]

No they aren't...but that's the most common mistake made when comparing the two so don't feel bad............

correct, they are not the same class

 

[Big_Joe]

well..i know im going to hear some bitching about this...my buddy i havent seen in about 2 years came over last night..and he brought over some beer and herb...well, my last injection was on thursday...so i decided to drink a little..and smoke a little..i rarely smoke or drink..i got blazed! So later through the night he pulled out some coke...I told him i quit the shit...i use to be addicted to coke and meth..i was six 2 and 130lbs...so he was like okay...well peer pressure is a bitch....He cut out one line and did it...he asked me again if i wanted one...so dumb ass me said "yes" I thought i was only going to do one line..Through out the night i did another and another...He decided to go home and left the shit for me....I did all that shit! It was about 2 grams...Now im freaking out because my blood pressure is high and im afraid of the sides of coke and gear...Does anyone know what the sides are...Im never doing this shit again...Go ahead and flame me...i deserve it..Let me know if this is going to fuck up anything...i guess im being paranoid..but better safe than sorry...thanks guys!

First thing you don't need to be flamed.
Second your "Buddy" isn't your buddy. I bet he is dealing and wants to hook you to be his customer. Right???
Third just realize that you have this problem and treat it like every other problem. It takes determination and focus of mind.
Fourth tell your "buddy" that if you ever see him again you will beat him with a baseball bat until he bleeds from his ass. And mean it.

 

[glassman21]

You said Xanax doesn't mess with your nervous system unlike Valium. You are very ignorant on these drugs. Xanax and Valium are in the same class of drugs.

Valium is a Diazapam. Xanax is Benzodiazepine.....If you are going to do coke and really need to take the edge off then stick to Benzo's and you'll be safe. Diazapam's will cause mixed signals to your heart and can cause cardiac arrest......I'm really not trying to think I know more than you or anything. I just want you to be aware that what you are prescribing is deadly. Take it or leave it. Hopefully next time you are in a situation you will think about what I said and may not be as willing to go out, do an 8 ball of coke, come home, pop two valiums and go to sleep without at least thinking about what I told you.

 

[GOLUAN]

yeah, im good...thanks for all the help..I WILL NEVER TOUCH THE SHIT AGAIN! MY WIFE KICKED MY ASS TOO!

 

[posthuman]

Valium is a Diazapam. Xanax is Benzodiazepine.....If you are going to do coke and really need to take the edge off then stick to Benzo's and you'll be safe. Diazapam's will cause mixed signals to your heart and can cause cardiac arrest......I'm really not trying to think I know more than you or anything. I just want you to be aware that what you are prescribing is deadly. Take it or leave it. Hopefully next time you are in a situation you will think about what I said and may not be as willing to go out, do an 8 ball of coke, come home, pop two valiums and go to sleep without at least thinking about what I told you.

WTF is this???? Valium is not a benzodiazepine? I feel sorry for you and anyone you give advice to. In fact Valium is often substituted for Xanax if one is addicted to Xanax. Easier to taper off on due to the long half-life.
THEY ARE BOTH BENZOS!!!

 

[Guvna]

hehe, thanks, when your making 2-3K per day, you can afford to do as much as you want, so it got outta control bad. i was getting all geek'd and stoned and racing around on my crotch rocket,

how were you making 2-3k per day?







BTW, to the original poster- that is quite a "buddy" you have--pressuring a former addict into using his drug of choice.

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

you will be fine

 

[Guvna]

BTW-I know a lot of cokeheads and tweekers that became millionaires in the white collar world as a direct result of their recreational drug use. Thanks to the drugs, all they do is work-and they sleep as little as possible.

A lot? I doubt it. So you think without these drugs, the people would not have been successful?

Granted this isn't the formula for success for most people, but neither is living at the gym, eating weird foods, sleeping 8 hrs/night, and taking enough roids to kill an elephant.

You mean 1-2 hours at the gym a day, eating healthy foods, sleeping the correct amount at night, and responsibly using a nonaddictive, naturally occuring drug?

Sounds like a pretty good formula to me.

AAS users are no better than anyone else. We may feel that our lifestyle is superior to a crackhead's, but I don't think we need to be so smug about it.

Who needs to be smug? I'll put my life expectancy against a crackhead/meth user/heroin addict any day of the week.


Actually, I am better than a crackhead. Maybe once youve seen a mother sell her 10 month old child for a hit of crack, you might agree as well.

 

[filthyr]

The drugs that ive been addicted to never made me feel as whole as
AAS has. Maybe there replacing what the bad drugs have done. Ive
been to rehab. Ive relapsed. Im clean now three years+. I will
never check into a rehab for aas. Comparing gear to crack is rediculous!

If you use aas BigCracker are you a crackhead. Maybe you are if you think this way! Never seen gear reduce and the human body like crack,heroin, or
coke. Maybe you should rename yourself to BIGCRACKHEAD.

 

[ironhorse242]

You're friend is a douchbag for tempting you. You're a douchbag for doing it. I say this because one of my friends who was a good bodybuilder got hooked on oxy and now he looks like a AIDS victom. Why do anything else but juice?

 

[BigCracker]

A lot? I doubt it. So you think without these drugs, the people would not have been successful?


You mean 1-2 hours at the gym a day, eating healthy foods, sleeping the correct amount at night, and responsibly using a nonaddictive, naturally occuring drug?

Sounds like a pretty good formula to me.

Who needs to be smug? I'll put my life expectancy against a crackhead/meth user/heroin addict any day of the week.


Actually, I am better than a crackhead. Maybe once youve seen a mother sell her 10 month old child for a hit of crack, you might agree as well.

1st question, yes I believe the drugs contributed to their success. If they used Prozac I'd say the same thing. Obviously what is the downfall of some people's lives is the motivational factor in others. For us it's AAS-for them it's crank. I know just as many roid using dysfunctional BB's as I do tweekers that can't hold a job(but damn their apartment is clean!) . Anything that causes you financial or emotional stress is not good-whether it's spending more $$ to do a BB show and making your rent payment late or buying an 8 ball instead of your kids baby formula-the bottom line is you're fucking up.



Steroids are natural? Not even close. It's not like you're taking test out of cadavers and using it-it's synthetic, which means it's man made and like all drugs, has sides like acne, increased aggression,stress to liver/kidneys, etc. Granted these are exagerated by the media-but so are sides like heart attack/ death from drugs like Ephedrine. They'll report a person died from ephedrine, but they'll conveniently fail to mention the poor soul was in such piss poor health prior to taking it (from being overweight, high bp, etc) that his death could've died from a number of other contributing factors in addition to or even aside from ephedrine.

And roids are non-addictive? LMFAO!!! Thank God! I've been on 16+ yrs straight and I was beginning to worry. I was considering a 12 step program: "I'm BigCracker and I'm completely overpowered by my addiction to AAS/GH and Internet midget scat busty teen porn"

The bodybuilding lifestyle itself without AAS is about as healthy as can be and will allow most to live well beyond the lifetime of avg joe beer/cigarette/fast food- sit on his ass guy. Adding AAS may still not be a big deal-but there is always the risk of waking a sleeping giant that hasn't been discovered yet by our sub competent RX scientists that's opinions could be easily swayed by "the man's $$$". Anabolics are such a huge market they could actually prove the shit causes cancer and they'd hush it up in the same way car companies buy up all the patents on alternative fuel vehicles. RX companies love the contraversial steroid topic-it fuels their machine-and has for 20 some years. Just look at how many more types of juice are available today vs 1989-there's no comparison.


And if I'm so uneducated about drugs, how come I get so many confidential IM's from people asking me to give them the skinny on mixing AAS and recreational drugs(alcohol and tobacco included)? I don't suggest that anyone mix the two-but I won't deny that a lot of people do. Nor will I judge them for it in the same way I don't judge a Fat Person for Eating Ben And Jerry's. Maybe it truly makes them happy? What we may find repulsive, others may find to be paradise. Who are we to judge? We're just a bunch of fucking monkeys running around on a big rock fighting over turf.

 

[posthuman]

Valium is a Diazapam. Xanax is Benzodiazepine.....If you are going to do coke and really need to take the edge off then stick to Benzo's and you'll be safe. Diazapam's will cause mixed signals to your heart and can cause cardiac arrest......I'm really not trying to think I know more than you or anything. I just want you to be aware that what you are prescribing is deadly. Take it or leave it. Hopefully next time you are in a situation you will think about what I said and may not be as willing to go out, do an 8 ball of coke, come home, pop two valiums and go to sleep without at least thinking about what I told you.

WTF is this???? Valium is not a benzodiazepine? I feel sorry for you and anyone you give advice to. In fact Valium is often substituted for Xanax if one is addicted to Xanax. Easier to taper off on due to the long half-life.

Glassman are you around? I'd like for you to explain how Valium is not a benzo.

 

[Guvna]

1st question, yes I believe the drugs contributed to their success. If they used Prozac I'd say the same thing. Obviously what is the downfall of some people's lives is the motivational factor in others. For us it's AAS-for them it's crank. I know just as many roid using dysfunctional BB's as I do tweekers that can't hold a job(but damn their apartment is clean!) . Anything that causes you financial or emotional stress is not good-whether it's spending more $$ to do a BB show and making your rent payment late or buying an 8 ball instead of your kids baby formula-the bottom line is you're fucking up.

fair enough. Though I still believe that a successful person is not made, or even helped in any way by rec. drugs. Well, maybe on a very short term basis.

Steroids are natural? Not even close. It's not like you're taking test out of cadavers and using it-it's synthetic, which means it's man made and like all drugs, has sides like acne, increased aggression,stress to liver/kidneys, etc.

Testosterone or Estrogen out of cadaver, a vial, or produced endogenously is chemically the exact same thing. I would certainly call the testosterone my body makes "natural." But like all drugs, steroids (even the "natural" ones) have sides.

And roids are non-addictive? LMFAO!!! Thank God! I've been on 16+ yrs straight and I was beginning to worry. I was considering a 12 step program: "I'm BigCracker and I'm completely overpowered by my addiction to AAS/GH and Internet midget scat busty teen porn"

They certainly are not addictive. You may be addicted to your results, the way you feel, etc. But, your body and mind do not "need" them in the same way an addict may "need" alcohol or heroin. No one has ever sold a child or robbed a house so they could get their daily hit of Dbol. You cant even overdose on steroids. Even so, scat porn is discusting.

The bodybuilding lifestyle itself without AAS is about as healthy as can be and will allow most to live well beyond the lifetime of avg joe beer/cigarette/fast food- sit on his ass guy. Adding AAS may still not be a big deal-but there is always the risk of waking a sleeping giant that hasn't been discovered yet by our sub competent RX scientists that's opinions could be easily swayed by "the man's $$$". Anabolics are such a huge market they could actually prove the shit causes cancer and they'd hush it up in the same way car companies buy up all the patents on alternative fuel vehicles. RX companies love the contraversial steroid topic-it fuels their machine-and has for 20 some years. Just look at how many more types of juice are available today vs 1989-there's no comparison.

agree

And if I'm so uneducated about drugs, how come I get so many confidential IM's from people asking me to give them the skinny on mixing AAS and recreational drugs(alcohol and tobacco included)?

I never said you were.


However, I do think it is foolish that people strive for one goal (health and/or good looks) and then completely compromise their efforts by partying a lot (or too much) and using rec drugs.

 

[bebop]

Yah, I was gonna mention it, but Supra just said it.... Be Careful of who you hang out with. This guy doesn't seem like too much of a friend, especially if he knows that you've already gone through an addiction.
The Best advice I have for you is to lose your buddy for another 2 years.

 

[BigCracker]

Yeah bro-back to the topic. If you know you have a problem with any particular vice, it's in your best interest to avoid others that share similar vices. Most of the tweekers I know are capable of not using if they really want to. However as soon as they return to their tweeker social circle, that's when they go of the wagon. I can only imagine how tough it would be for a long term AAS user to quit unless he switched gyms and started traing at Curves or moved to some podunk town where no AAS were readily available.

 

[dullboy]

Glassman are you around? I'd like for you to explain how Valium is not a benzo.

dullboy says he can't.


Valium and Xanax are both Benzos. drug half-life being the basic difference.
There is also the concept of first-pass meatabolism, etc. Valium is multi-pass.

 

[BigRupe]

WTF is this???? Valium is not a benzodiazepine? I feel sorry for you and anyone you give advice to. In fact Valium is often substituted for Xanax if one is addicted to Xanax. Easier to taper off on due to the long half-life.
THEY ARE BOTH BENZOS!!!

Word!

 

[glassman21]

WTF is this???? Valium is not a benzodiazepine? I feel sorry for you and anyone you give advice to. In fact Valium is often substituted for Xanax if one is addicted to Xanax. Easier to taper off on due to the long half-life.
THEY ARE BOTH BENZOS!!!

whatever dude........do what you want....kill yourself, I don't care.

 

[glassman21]

dullboy says he can't.


Valium and Xanax are both Benzos. drug half-life being the basic difference.
There is also the concept of first-pass meatabolism, etc. Valium is multi-pass.

you have internet access....look it up.

 

[glassman21]

you have internet access....look it up.

I am not a chemist. I could be wrong about the classification but I know from experience that mixing Valium and Coke will kill your dumb ass.....I don't need to ask anyone if it is true. I had a roomate that did alot of coke one night and took two VALIUM to go to sleep and never woke up. I wasn't hanging around crack heads. The drug addicts I knew actually had jobs and careers...some were doctors....and they all told me the same thing....don't mix valium with coke.....take a xaxax instead. I've never seen anyone die from mixing xanax and coke.....doesn't mean it couldn't kill you and is totally safe but I do know for sure that valium with coke will kill you. I saw it kill a person and he was in good shape...so, take it or leave it...I'm not argueing the petty details with you about the classification.

 

[cityhick]

I love valium

 

[posthuman]

I am not a chemist. I could be wrong about the classification but I know from experience that mixing Valium and Coke will kill your dumb ass.....I don't need to ask anyone if it is true. I had a roomate that did alot of coke one night and took two VALIUM to go to sleep and never woke up. I wasn't hanging around crack heads. The drug addicts I knew actually had jobs and careers...some were doctors....and they all told me the same thing....don't mix valium with coke.....take a xaxax instead. I've never seen anyone die from mixing xanax and coke.....doesn't mean it couldn't kill you and is totally safe but I do know for sure that valium with coke will kill you. I saw it kill a person and he was in good shape...so, take it or leave it...I'm not argueing the petty details with you about the classification.

Look, I'm not saying to take Valium with coke. I'd stay far away from both or use very carefully and sparingly if absolutely necessary (talking about the benzos, for example if you suffer from panic attacks).

That said if I was sure Valium with coke WILL kill you I sure as hell wouldn't advice someone to use Xanax instead. The same contraindications would apply (if your brain signals getting confused theory was true). They are both benzos and work similarly, attaching to the same receptors etc.

BTW what exactly was the cause of death? Could not the coke have been the causative substance?

 

[cboogsrun]

I never understood why people smoke pot which is a downer and then lines of coke or crank. What the fuck is the point to that. I'm more of an upper fella myself. Pot smells and taste like shit.

 

[cityhick]

I never understood why people smoke pot which is a downer and then lines of coke or crank. What the fuck is the point to that. I'm more of an upper fella myself. Pot smells and taste like shit.

It smells good if you like it. I like the smell of coke to. But NEVER would pay for it. I never understood people that would take tons of vicos and it would wake them up. I take a vico/oxy/morph and you can call me out for bedtime.

 

[Studio Muscle Canada]

I bet you , that youll nootice that the shit wasnt as enjoyable this time, as it was back in your coke days,, just repeat that shit yourself,,, I spent over 30 G's on the shit,, and the last time i did it was a year after I quit,,, I hated it... didnt feel satisfied from start to finish,, just wanted more again,, so I do what I always do,, smoke some weed,, pop some sleeping pills,, and sleep for a day and a half.... lol... sort of

 

[BigCracker]

I never understood why people smoke pot which is a downer and then lines of coke or crank. What the fuck is the point to that. I'm more of an upper fella myself. Pot smells and taste like shit.

Try smoking good pot(hydro) instead of the mexi brick shit-it's not a downer at all. It smells good too. I wouldn't smoke brick if you gave it to me for free. Not all weed is the same. Different strains produce different kinds of buzzes. Some are uplifting and energetic while others(like mexi brick) make you wanna be lazy and eat everything in sight. A few puffs of hydro and ECA and I'll train like a madman.

 

[glassman21]

I never understood why people smoke pot which is a downer and then lines of coke or crank. What the fuck is the point to that. I'm more of an upper fella myself. Pot smells and taste like shit.

Back in the day when I was partying we'd do it all. We'd pop a couple of rolls to start the night off and party all night long on tabs and red bull at the club and then around 6 am head to an after hours party at some one's house or apt....Usually there would be clicks of people there....there would be a room full of tweekers upstairs smoking ice and there would be a room full of people smoking hydro and there would be people rolling and drinking "g". There may also be a few people veged out on the couch on "k"....you may smoke a bowl or ice with someone and then take a cap of "G" .......and then someone would break out the hydro and we'd smoke some bowls of that.....just whatever to keep the party going....Actually a good bowl of Hydro after a few pulls on the bong of ice (meth) is a pretty good feeling. All the tweekers I knew would have glass bongs and they would fill the bongs up with ice and listerine mixed with water and the smoking bowl would be some custom fit glass bowl they'd fill with crystal meth....when you pull on it is is cool and fresh because of the ice and listerine....it was some crazy shit bro. Been clean now for over three years....just like someone else already said: It just isn't the same (thank God) after you quit and try to go back and party. ThaT'S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE REALLY DONE WITH IT. When you go party and it just sucks and you only feel anxiety and feel like you have wasted the entire weekend and lactually look forward to getting your work week started and forgetting about the wasted week-end you just had.
...but if i do ever slip up and accidentally snort an 8 ball of coke on Saturday night I ALWAYS make sure i have a Xanie for Sunday or I juat won't do it...

 

[drrman]

Back in the day when I was partying we'd do it all. We'd pop a couple of rolls to start the night off and party all night long on tabs and red bull at the club and then around 6 am head to an after hours party at some one's house or apt....Usually there would be clicks of people there....there would be a room full of tweekers upstairs smoking ice and there would be a room full of people smoking hydro and there would be people rolling and drinking "g". There may also be a few people veged out on the couch on "k"....you may smoke a bowl or ice with someone and then take a cap of "G" .......and then someone would break out the hydro and we'd smoke some bowls of that.....just whatever to keep the party going....Actually a good bowl of Hydro after a few pulls on the bong of ice (meth) is a pretty good feeling. All the tweekers I knew would have glass bongs and they would fill the bongs up with ice and listerine mixed with water and the smoking bowl would be some custom fit glass bowl they'd fill with crystal meth....when you pull on it is is cool and fresh because of the ice and listerine....it was some crazy shit bro. Been clean now for over three years....just like someone else already said: It just isn't the same (thank God) after you quit and try to go back and party. ThaT'S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE REALLY DONE WITH IT. When you go party and it just sucks and you only feel anxiety and feel like you have wasted the entire weekend and lactually look forward to getting your work week started and forgetting about the wasted week-end you just had.
...but if i do ever slip up and accidentally snort an 8 ball of coke on Saturday night I ALWAYS make sure i have a Xanie for Sunday or I juat won't do it...

SOUNDS ALL TOO FAMILIAR!!!

 

[GOLUAN]

Back in the day when I was partying we'd do it all. We'd pop a couple of rolls to start the night off and party all night long on tabs and red bull at the club and then around 6 am head to an after hours party at some one's house or apt....Usually there would be clicks of people there....there would be a room full of tweekers upstairs smoking ice and there would be a room full of people smoking hydro and there would be people rolling and drinking "g". There may also be a few people veged out on the couch on "k"....you may smoke a bowl or ice with someone and then take a cap of "G" .......and then someone would break out the hydro and we'd smoke some bowls of that.....just whatever to keep the party going....Actually a good bowl of Hydro after a few pulls on the bong of ice (meth) is a pretty good feeling. All the tweekers I knew would have glass bongs and they would fill the bongs up with ice and listerine mixed with water and the smoking bowl would be some custom fit glass bowl they'd fill with crystal meth....when you pull on it is is cool and fresh because of the ice and listerine....it was some crazy shit bro. Been clean now for over three years....just like someone else already said: It just isn't the same (thank God) after you quit and try to go back and party. ThaT'S WHEN YOU KNOW YOU'RE REALLY DONE WITH IT. When you go party and it just sucks and you only feel anxiety and feel like you have wasted the entire weekend and lactually look forward to getting your work week started and forgetting about the wasted week-end you just had.
...but if i do ever slip up and accidentally snort an 8 ball of coke on Saturday night I ALWAYS make sure i have a Xanie for Sunday or I juat won't do it...

Are you sure your not one of my friends i use to hang out with...Sounds like the raves i use to go too...hahahhaa...