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Cycle update- Tren Ace

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EXT ELITE ROB
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First time using tren and Im pretty impressed so far. Only on day 11 and strength is high, recovery is insane (like I dont even feel sore at all the next day), already gained about 7 lbs totally lean, and looking harder.
Cycle is:
Week 1-9, Tren Ace 100mg/EOD
Week 1-9 TCyp 125mg/wk (ongoing HRT)
Week 1-9 Caber .25 E3D, (but I can already tell I will need to up this to .5 E3D)
Fish oil- 4G/ED
LipidStabil- 3caps/ED

38
5'10
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15%
5th cycle

I wanted to run tren alone to really gauge what it would do and i had winstrol planned for last 6 weeks but might skip it if the tren keeps treating me great. I figure the winstrol would make a better finisher on a future test/EQ cycle or something

Now the bad news is im more irritable, calf and shin pumps are pretty bad on cardio (gonna add Taurine), and I have some night sweats and insomnia but not as bad as I was expecting for a first time. Also have less impulse control. Gonna keep the pinning at EOD since the sides arent that bad.
 
How many cycles have you done before you decided to jump on tren? I was contemplating trying try, but ive only done one cycle before. I was thinking of getting a few more under my belt but not sure

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5 cycles but technically 7 since there was a 12 year all natural gap so i only count the last 5 cycles
 
That's awesome man. Very nice results so far. You say your 7 lb gain has been very lean, so just curious...if you are running a lot of cals over maintenance or what diet you are following

I had a very short experience with Tren E this summer due to getting a bad injury at work requiring surgery that pretty much ended my cycle. However, with just 3 weeks of Tren E at 400/week I had some pretty remarkable changes. I'm running it again this winter for a bulk. Tren seems like a game changer for me too.
 
RickRock13 said:
That's awesome man. Very nice results so far. You say your 7 lb gain has been very lean, so just curious...if you are running a lot of cals over maintenance or what diet you are following

I had a very short experience with Tren E this summer due to getting a bad injury at work requiring surgery that pretty much ended my cycle. However, with just 3 weeks of Tren E at 400/week I had some pretty remarkable changes. I'm running it again this winter for a bulk. Tren seems like a game changer for me too.
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Diet isnt any big deal. Just 3200-3300 cal, and just make sure i get 300-350 prot and the carbs are around 100. I eat a lot of steak, salmon, egg whites, chicken breasts, juiced vegs
I used this BMR calculator and the Harris Benedict equation below that to figure out.
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
 
Have you tried tren with high carbs.

And have you noticed any low blood sugar symptoms from low carbs

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bonacris said:
Have you tried tren with high carbs.

And have you noticed any low blood sugar symptoms from low carbs

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No havent tried high carbs, should i?
I just make sure to get carbs before bed for night sweats
 
definitely carb up every few days. I like getting in 500g carbs after 3 days of low carbs if I'm carb cycling. the fullness and vascularity after your carb up will be crazy on tren.
 
day 16 and up 12 lbs and BF down 1.5%
But Im paying the price since this stuff makes me feel like shit
Dont know if I will make it for 9 weeks but if the gains keep coming I will gut it out.
Still debating throwing winstrol in 50mg/ED or not last 6 weeks. Look like I got 5 days to decide.
 
if you feel irritable take some glucose tabs.. they are like $8 bucks from any store.. or better yet eat. if you eat every 2 hours something with cals and carbs you will reduce side effects

taurine will take care of your pumps. n2guard has ample taurine in it.. i run 10 caps a day with tren
 
stevesmi said:
if you feel irritable take some glucose tabs.. they are like $8 bucks from any store.. or better yet eat. if you eat every 2 hours something with cals and carbs you will reduce side effects

taurine will take care of your pumps. n2guard has ample taurine in it.. i run 10 caps a day with tren
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Yea I got taurine just last night, dbol pumps aint got shit on tren pumps

Ive been eating carbs before bed and seems to help with insomnia and sweats. Or maybe Im just getting used to the tren, who knows but Im sure more carbs cant hurt with this.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ the first time i ran tren i would have crippling pumps when i would lift heavy. it ruined my workouts. so since then i have run n2guard and no problems at all.
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Yea the pumps are like nothing ive ever felt. like skin splitting lol

a scar on my arm felt like it was going to split open any moment
 
Is tren a better option then test in the longrun because it doesnt affect prostate growth?

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Shrine1 said:
Is tren a better option then test in the longrun because it doesnt affect prostate growth?

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No, tren is harsh as hell. Test is pretty safe long term.

I may do 2 short tren cycles a year if i make it through this one alive
 
I`ve done a similar cycle , 12 week tren + dostinex, with prov and cialis, no test.Great cycle . Added winny last 4 weeks and YES makes a huuuge difference for me. Please add winny
 
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No, tren is harsh as hell. Test is pretty safe long term.

I may do 2 short tren cycles a year if i make it through this one alive
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You need to start pinning 75mg eod instead of 100. That would drastically reduce the negative things you're experiencing with very little to no affect on your gains. Tren, as you can tell, is seriously hardcore and even 75mg eod is a strong dose.

Think about that.
 
If your BP is still ok at this stage i would add the winny ,

the worm has turned for you my friend...you wont cycle without tren again.

I have some TGC tren-E on the way... I blow up on TGC gears -----> its Bane time .
 
warrior08 said:
Wow sounds rough..... Making me think twice about my tren run. Lol
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A lot of bros say a high quality lab tren-a dosed at 200-ish per week (approx 30 mg ED) is the way to go for a noob-tren runner. Also, throwing in prami, if you are experienced in the necessary tapering requirements, works wonders. Tapering super low prior to supplementing Ace seems to prevent sleep issues.
 
dabuffguy said:
You need to start pinning 75mg eod instead of 100. That would drastically reduce the negative things you're experiencing with very little to no affect on your gains. Tren, as you can tell, is seriously hardcore and even 75mg eod is a strong dose.

Think about that.
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Exactly, more is less when it comes to tren and prami. Additionally, some tren vets vehemently recommend pinning every day to keep blood plasma stable. I think Ace has a 24-36 hr half life. So allowing 12-24 hours without tren can cause more sides, I have been pinning ED from a good lab and my sides are minimal... Besides night sweats that is.

How long did it take for you to really feel that your ace "kicked in"?
 
One of the key things I'm not seeing here is n2guard. That keeps all those shitty occurrences at a minimum. And don't forget to eat some foods high in potassium and up the carbs. Tren will burn off all that excess fat so the extra carbs aren't gonna matter. They will make you feel better though.
 
Update day 22
up 13 lbs total, down 1.5% BF (approx. 16 lbs lean gain total)
threw down new PR for bench and incline for reps.
Cant even jog for cardio so i just walk fast for an hour.

If I can tame these sides tren is the perfect gear for sure. Just added winstrol 50mg/ED so this might get nuts. Gonna drink it
I need some N2guard but out of stock for 15 days? damn it
 
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Update day 22
up 13 lbs total, down 1.5% BF (approx. 16 lbs lean gain total)
threw down new PR for bench and incline for reps.
Cant even jog for cardio so i just walk fast for an hour.

If I can tame these sides tren is the perfect gear for sure. Just added winstrol 50mg/ED so this might get nuts. Gonna drink it
I need some N2guard but out of stock for 15 days? damn it
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Damn man. That is fucking awesome. I have 6 weeks til blast off with Tren/Test/EQ, and hearing this shit makes me excited to start
 
RickRock13 said:
Damn man. That is fucking awesome. I have 6 weeks til blast off with Tren/Test/EQ, and hearing this shit makes me excited to start
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Its so strange in that tren is only awesome when you step into the gym, the rest of your life it makes shitty though hahaha

Like you wont even feel like going to the gym but just get through the gym doors and its superman time.
 
RickRock13 said:
Damn man. That is fucking awesome. I have 6 weeks til blast off with Tren/Test/EQ, and hearing this shit makes me excited to start
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I'm a few days into Tren Ace and live it so far. I'm cutting yet my strength is going through the roof. EQ has always been my favorite compound so the idea of running tren with it sounds like heaven. I'm wondering if EQ will counter the tren cardio woes?
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
I'm a few days into Tren Ace and live it so far. I'm cutting yet my strength is going through the roof. EQ has always been my favorite compound so the idea of running tren with it sounds like heaven. I'm wondering if EQ will counter the tren cardio woes?
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No it won't. GW might help in that regard, but tren is very dominant in your system. And I say "might" with a lot of emphasis. In the case of tren, the addition of something else could just make it that much more shitty.

I am not a fan of running all sorts of stuff along with tren. Keep it to test and tren, and an oral kicker for 3 weeks if you are using enanthate instead of acetate. Other than that, the average person that is far enough along to warrant using tren would best running several cycles with tren and test before they start using orals, t3, clen and other stuff. I never touched clen or T3. I'd use dnp before I ever stacked clen and t3 to get shredded. And don't go thinking I just endorsed dnp. I didn't. Not even close. In fact, I am breaking the rules just mentioning it like that.
 
dabuffguy said:
No it won't. GW might help in that regard, but tren is very dominant in your system. And I say "might" with a lot of emphasis. In the case of tren, the addition of something else could just make it that much more shitty.

I am not a fan of running all sorts of stuff along with tren. Keep it to test and tren, and an oral kicker for 3 weeks if you are using enanthate instead of acetate. Other than that, the average person that is far enough along to warrant using tren would best running several cycles with tren and test before they start using orals, t3, clen and other stuff. I never touched clen or T3. I'd use dnp before I ever stacked clen and t3 to get shredded. And don't go thinking I just endorsed dnp. I didn't. Not even close. In fact, I am breaking the rules just mentioning it like that.
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I think T3 is majorly misunderstood. It actually has an anabolic property in low doses and tren sucks it dry. I'm running 12.5, which is half of a maintenance dose and will not cause the negative feedback loop to kick in. In some, >25 is needed to do so, in others >50. 75-100 mcg is the sweet spot for catabolizing adipose. Stacked with albuterol, it yields less anxiety than clen and provides similar synergistic shreds. I did clen 2x.... Never again. I didn't even run at optimal dose and I could bareky talk because of anxiety... But DNP? ECA stack is a 3 on sides, alb\t3 is a 4, clen\t3 5-6, DNP is a 10. DNP should never even be mentioned... Even as a joke. I think a noob pinning a gram of tren and drinking scotch every day is safer than a DNP user... Considering the mortality rate of DNP. As far as T3? There are folks who were improperly diagnosed with hypothyroidism and took t3 for 20 years. When discovered they quit cold turkey and their system bounced back in 2 weeks and their levels are in the normal range. The negative feedback loop does't work the same in the thyroid as it does in the anterior pituitary gland
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
I'm a few days into Tren Ace and live it so far. I'm cutting yet my strength is going through the roof. EQ has always been my favorite compound so the idea of running tren with it sounds like heaven. I'm wondering if EQ will counter the tren cardio woes?
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I've noticed when I stack EQ with Tren. My cardio doesn't diminish and hungry all the time.

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Sust 350 said:
I've noticed when I stack EQ with Tren. My cardio doesn't diminish and hungry all the time.

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I suspected this, mainly because of the RBC influx. But I'm 4 days into my 1st tren ace cycle at 220mgs per week (going low for the 1st trial) and haven't experienced too many sides, other than waking up multiple times throughout the night and having one specific moment of alpha aggression.... Thank God for prami!
 
i just did EQ and tren and the tren seemed to overshadow EQ bigtime.. when the tren was stopped i continued the EQ and i lost mass and strength.

the lesson is tren blows away every AAS out there and you don't need to run shit with it. but also when you come off of it you get a boomerang affect. you can celebrate gaining 15 pounds or whatever but when you come off watch your strength and weight drop huge even if you are cruising
 
stevesmi said:
i just did EQ and tren and the tren seemed to overshadow EQ bigtime.. when the tren was stopped i continued the EQ and i lost mass and strength.

the lesson is tren blows away every AAS out there and you don't need to run shit with it. but also when you come off of it you get a boomerang affect. you can celebrate gaining 15 pounds or whatever but when you come off watch your strength and weight drop huge even if you are cruising
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That' what I'm afraid of. I went off AAS for 4 months and I took it easy on my deadlift... 365 for 3 reps. Max ever was 425. 1st back day on tren I did 455, which is high for me.... And this is during physique contest prep!
 
-SD- said:
Update day 22
up 13 lbs total, down 1.5% BF (approx. 16 lbs lean gain total)
threw down new PR for bench and incline for reps.
Cant even jog for cardio so i just walk fast for an hour.

If I can tame these sides tren is the perfect gear for sure. Just added winstrol 50mg/ED so this might get nuts. Gonna drink it
I need some N2guard but out of stock for 15 days? damn it
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Rob , Does teh jacket still fit ?:worried:
 
stevesmi said:
i just did EQ and tren and the tren seemed to overshadow EQ bigtime.. when the tren was stopped i continued the EQ and i lost mass and strength.

the lesson is tren blows away every AAS out there and you don't need to run shit with it. but also when you come off of it you get a boomerang affect. you can celebrate gaining 15 pounds or whatever but when you come off watch your strength and weight drop huge even if you are cruising
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Ironically after I ran Test/Tren/masteron over the summer, I didn't notice any of that. I dropped tren mid cycle and retained all mass and strength just running test and masteron at 500mg each. I'm now 7 weeks into my cruise at 200 test per week and still maintaining everything strength and mass wise. I lost vascularity and hardness from the high androgens, but that's pretty much it.
 
RickRock13 said:
Ironically after I ran Test/Tren/masteron over the summer, I didn't notice any of that. I dropped tren mid cycle and retained all mass and strength just running test and masteron at 500mg each. I'm now 7 weeks into my cruise at 200 test per week and still maintaining everything strength and mass wise. I lost vascularity and hardness from the high androgens, but that's pretty much it.
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This is like silk to my eyeballs bro.
 
I ran tren ace and was so disappointed. Did get stronger but gained 10 lbs in 8 weeks and half was fat. Diet was fairly clean, cardio 6x week... Had no sides except a headache 2 days. I was just waiting for the night sweats.... Thought i would see some fat loss. It was from gp labs and there stuff is always legit. Im gonna try tren e next time and a different lab
 
jb2012ny said:
I ran tren ace and was so disappointed. Did get stronger but gained 10 lbs in 8 weeks and half was fat. Diet was fairly clean, cardio 6x week... Had no sides except a headache 2 days. I was just waiting for the night sweats.... Thought i would see some fat loss. It was from gp labs and there stuff is always legit. Im gonna try tren e next time and a different lab
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It was probably because of diet more than anything. You say you ate fairly clean, which means it was a little dirty too. I'm assuming you also ate in too much of a caloric surplus. Tren is amazing, but it doesn't mean you can eat as much of whatever you want and expect fat loss either
 
jb2012ny said:
I ran tren ace and was so disappointed. Did get stronger but gained 10 lbs in 8 weeks and half was fat. Diet was fairly clean, cardio 6x week... Had no sides except a headache 2 days. I was just waiting for the night sweats.... Thought i would see some fat loss. It was from gp labs and there stuff is always legit. Im gonna try tren e next time and a different lab
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Sounds like to me you mostly just had garbage gear. Diet plays a big role but, tren is and close to magic as it gets and that's not close to what tren does.
 
joeblow12345 said:
Sounds like to me you mostly just had garbage gear. Diet plays a big role but, tren is and close to magic as it gets and that's not close to what tren does.
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I agree. Properly dosed tren ace is magic sauce. Guy should have been talking about how good the stuff really is for mass and strength.
 
I definitely wasnt eating anything. I tried low carbs also. I know it was legit cause of the strength gain. I was only on test prop with it 225g week. Tren i started at 300 week and went up too also. Was hoping for the magic
 
I gotta change my tren to 50mg/ED instead of 100mg/EOD. Gotta do something about these sides. If that doesnt work then will lower to 37.5mg ED

Hopefully the winstrol I just added will pick up some slack
 
stevesmi said:
adding winny is gonna make your sides way worse.

run tren alone if you want the least amount of sides. are you using n2guard or any support supps?
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N2Guard is out of stock, Im running taurine 10G day and lots of water. its not helping so switching to 50mg/ED instead of 100mg/EOD. Guess i will drop the winstrol also if youre sure it will make sides worse by keeping it
 
RickRock13 said:
Ironically after I ran Test/Tren/masteron over the summer, I didn't notice any of that. I dropped tren mid cycle and retained all mass and strength just running test and masteron at 500mg each. I'm now 7 weeks into my cruise at 200 test per week and still maintaining everything strength and mass wise. I lost vascularity and hardness from the high androgens, but that's pretty much it.
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I'm running tren at 100mg eod and prop at 50mg with anavar. Was about to drop out tren and anavar and cruise out on test at 200. You think adding mast in a cruise is cool? I would live to do that. You run Mast E? How much?
 
if your blood pressure is elevated before adding in the winstrol, you're going to feel like shit pretty quickly after you add it in
 
-SD- said:
N2Guard is out of stock, Im running taurine 10G day and lots of water. its not helping so switching to 50mg/ED instead of 100mg/EOD. Guess i will drop the winstrol also if youre sure it will make sides worse by keeping it
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well in my personal experience 50mg of winny with tren gave me headaches and I never get headaches.. also if i ran my hands through my hair while wet i had hair stuck to my hands. its was pretty bizare shit cause i also never shed hair.. the chicks dig guys with hair so this was no good. i ended up buying n2shampoo from another member cause it was out of stock and that saved my ass.

i dropped the winny to 25mg a day but i honestly didn't think it did anything positive adding it so i stopped it after a couple weeks. meanwhile when i stacked winny with EQ it wasn't a problem at all except for some dry joints.

so i would say give it a go and see what happens but if you start getting headaches and shit you probably want to save it for another time when you can better utilize it.
 
TheSVPdeal said:
I'm running tren at 100mg eod and prop at 50mg with anavar. Was about to drop out tren and anavar and cruise out on test at 200. You think adding mast in a cruise is cool? I would live to do that. You run Mast E? How much?
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a low dose of deca would be better to add to your cruise ,will keep your joints in check .
 
Switching to 50mg/ED instead of 100mg/EOD has eased up the sides somewhat. Still lethargic but at least i dont feel like im going to pass out by 6PM every day.

For anyone on tren EOD that has harsh sides go ahead and try ED.
 
-SD- said:
Switching to 50mg/ED instead of 100mg/EOD has eased up the sides somewhat. Still lethargic but at least i dont feel like im going to pass out by 6PM every day.

For anyone on tren EOD that has harsh sides go ahead and try ED.
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Good to hear it ease up. You'll get most of the results of 100mg eod unless you weighed like 250+.

Lethargy was always an issue for me. I have hypersomnia so when lethargy kicked in, especially on Beastdrol(superdrol) it kicked my ass hard. I was on Nuvigil and still couldn't get regular levels of alertness. Beastdrol gave such good results that I put up with it.
 
dabuffguy said:
Good to hear it ease up. You'll get most of the results of 100mg eod unless you weighed like 250+.

Lethargy was always an issue for me. I have hypersomnia so when lethargy kicked in, especially on Beastdrol(superdrol) it kicked my ass hard. I was on Nuvigil and still couldn't get regular levels of alertness. Beastdrol gave such good results that I put up with it.
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I got 3 unopened bottles of beast i been looking at for a couple years. Probably gonna hit that shit next cycle

I wonder how it would stack with tren but the combined sides i fear would be unbearable
 
bigbassturd said:
I ran it at 40mg with tren hex at 400 mg and thought I was going to die

Don't do that
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Yeah, I don't think superdrol is good to stack with another side-prone drug that can make you feel like crap. Great with test, eq or primo, not with tren. Wouldn't know about deca since I never used it.
 
I stacked tren 100mg eod with beast 40mg ed. Made amazing gains but sides were through the roof! I was walking death. My lipids were strained pretty bad. I wouldn't recommend it.
 
Day 27
Unstoppable on this stuff, holy shit robs!
For the hell of it tried 275 for reps on bench and banged out 6 and could have hit one or maybe two more but no spotter so didnt chance it. Ive never sniffed that much for reps on bench in my life even when i was 15 years younger and hitting test cyp.
Veins showing up out of nowhere. Sitting at 215 lbs now, started at 200 lbs. Biggest Ive ever been.
Im absolutely sold on tren and gonna use it every cycle.

Not even halfway through the damn cycle hahahahah
 
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Day 27
Unstoppable on this stuff, holy shit robs!
For the hell of it tried 275 for reps on bench and banged out 6 and could have hit one or maybe two more but no spotter so didnt chance it. Ive never sniffed that much for reps on bench in my life even when i was 15 years younger and hitting test cyp.
Veins showing up out of nowhere. Sitting at 215 lbs now, started at 200 lbs. Biggest Ive ever been.
Im absolutely sold on tren and gonna use it every cycle.

Not even halfway through the damn cycle hahahahah
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You'll be at 315 in another month if you pound the calories rob.
 
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Day 27
Unstoppable on this stuff, holy shit robs!
For the hell of it tried 275 for reps on bench and banged out 6 and could have hit one or maybe two more but no spotter so didnt chance it. Ive never sniffed that much for reps on bench in my life even when i was 15 years younger and hitting test cyp.
Veins showing up out of nowhere. Sitting at 215 lbs now, started at 200 lbs. Biggest Ive ever been.
Im absolutely sold on tren and gonna use it every cycle.

Not even halfway through the damn cycle hahahahah
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That's fucking awesome man. Tren is the shit!
 
Thinking about cutting the cycle from 9 weeks to 6 weeks. Sides are just kicking my ass hard and dont know what else to do lol
 
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Thinking about cutting the cycle from 9 weeks to 6 weeks. Sides are just kicking my ass hard and dont know what else to do lol
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N2guard bro. That takes all those tren sides away. Without it you'll be miserable. I run tren 14-16 weeks on average and there's no way I could do that without n2guard.
 
joeblow12345 said:
N2guard bro. That takes all those tren sides away. Without it you'll be miserable. I run tren 14-16 weeks on average and there's no way I could do that without n2guard.
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have you run tren with and without N2Guard?
 
-SD- said:
have you run tren with and without N2Guard?
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Yes. Without was constant headaches, fatigue, heart burn, insomnia, loss of appetite, and just all around felt like crap, but still killed it in the gym. With n2guard I only get the occasional night sweats, and a little fatigue and insomnia. Appetite is crazy and no heartburn or headaches. And you overall feel pretty good.
 
Gonna lower dose to 37.5mg/ED
Had to bail early on legs today, lower back pumps were crippling, couldnt even stand or walk

BP is around 137/80
 
-SD- said:
Gonna lower dose to 37.5mg/ED
Had to bail early on legs today, lower back pumps were crippling, couldnt even stand or walk

BP is around 137/80
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Top number is high. N2guard will bring that down in a few days.when its in stock in 6 days grab some .
 
the first time i ran tren the pumps were unbearable even with taurine but then after running it again and again the sides got better and better.. you are just reacting hard to the androgens the first time.

nothing wrong with stopping early and letting your body relax.. and then giving it another shot this winter. by then it won't be so hot.. i wouldn't run tren this time of year anyway living in a hot state.
 
-SD- said:
I think i can gut it out for 9 weeks. Lethargy is still going on but headaches are gone at least. Arms are so pumped all day its hard to function sometimes hahah
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Good, you were being a pussy anyways.

Lol jk rob.


Did you down the dose?


Keep an eye on everything, keep checking your blood pressure (check it every 3 days), eating extra amounts of green veggies has always helped me to feel more normal using teh jooz.
 
dabuffguy said:
Good, you were being a pussy anyways.

Lol jk rob.


Did you down the dose?


Keep an eye on everything, keep checking your blood pressure (check it every 3 days), eating extra amounts of green veggies has always helped me to feel more normal using teh jooz.
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Gonna leave dose as is
If im gonna feel like crap at least feel good in the gym
 
-SD- said:
I think i can gut it out for 9 weeks. Lethargy is still going on but headaches are gone at least. Arms are so pumped all day its hard to function sometimes hahah
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I'm 15 days in on a blend that equates to 210 per week and I'm not really noticing too many sides. My strength increased slightly week 1 but I'm trying to cut as much weight as poss.
 
-SD- said:
Gonna leave dose as is
If im gonna feel like crap at least feel good in the gym
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the quick weight gain isn't helping your cause here. this is probably why guys have issues with tren the first time. big difference between the scale jumping 5 pounds and 15 pounds. your organs are straining to keep up.
 
stevesmi said:
the quick weight gain isn't helping your cause here. this is probably why guys have issues with tren the first time. big difference between the scale jumping 5 pounds and 15 pounds. your organs are straining to keep up.
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I would agree with that as well. Quick weight gain is usually a quick way to side effects in a lot of cases
 
Seems like my weight has leveled off past 2 weeks, 213-215 lbs. Probably why i feel better.

Well i got until Nov 12 for this cycle.

Smashed more PR today like it was nothing.

Im eating more than ever in my life and using the harris benedict equation (Im using the data as if i was 220 already and am working towards that goal using the caloric requirements the equation spit out, so its around 3400 for what its worth)

If I feel pretty good should I up dose from 50mg/day to 75mg/day for rest of cycle (5 weeks?) I dont like my weight leveling out like that. Unless I should save that dose for next run or something.

Shits tempting though lol
 
Might as well at least give it a shot. It's short ester, so if it turns sour you can bump back down and feel better within a couple of days.

You don't need to worry about saving tren, rob. Pretty sure you have enough on hand to make half of Texas jacked and tan
 
bigbassturd said:
Might as well at least give it a shot. It's short ester, so if it turns sour you can bump back down and feel better within a couple of days.

You don't need to worry about saving tren, rob. Pretty sure you have enough on hand to make half of Texas jacked and tan
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*all of Texas
 
Just a thought rob, you should take in an extra 100 grams of carbs a day to increase your likelihood of not feeling like trash.

You go too long without carbs on tren and you'll be feeling like death. Hypoglycemia is a problem for many on tren and feeling like crap.

Do an extra 100 grams spread throughout the day and you'll feel better as a whole and strength and mass increases will be slightly better too.

If you cut on tren, you'll hate life feeling horrible. Many guys can't cut on tren because it makes their blood sugar too low and makes them nauseous and light headed.
 
-SD- said:
No way i could cut on tren holy shit

Added carbs does make sense rob
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I'll admit, on tren I had to drink 64 oz of soda every day to keep from dying.

I'm naturally hypoglycemic, and I tried to recomp and within a week of 100mg eod I thought I was going to die for real. My dad has a glucose meter, so I tested my blood sugar and it was dangerously low and I was still taking in 150 grams of carbs everyday.

So, I started sipping soda constantly (I should have used fruit juice but I love Mt Dew hahaha) and I felt a billion times better within an hour. I also didn't gain any body fat, just got super full and vascular. Tren was a 1 time deal for me, shit was absolute fire for lean mass and strength. Now that I'm no longer using aas, the only aas I miss using was anadrol and tren. Amazing stuff. Seriously felt like the hulk. Gave me no mood changes, no night sweats, just terrible feeling with hypoglycemia that first week. I could toss heavy weight around like feathers, made PR's like a boss every 5 days. When I got to 247 people couldn't believe how huge I was. I wasn't ifbb big, but for a guy who weighed 170 in high school at 6'2, 247 and about 12% bf was fucking beast. Could rep 315 22 times and I'm naturally a skinny puss that could barely do 135 when I was 21 years old.


Anyways, ya rob, up the carbs more and I'm willing to bet you'll have a much more pleasant experience the rest of your run and make better gains. Also take an extra multivitamin every other day. 50mg ed of a compound this strong is hardcore. Guys that do 100mg ed are insane.
 
dabuffguy said:
I'll admit, on tren I had to drink 64 oz of soda every day to keep from dying.

I'm naturally hypoglycemic, and I tried to recomp and within a week of 100mg eod I thought I was going to die for real. My dad has a glucose meter, so I tested my blood sugar and it was dangerously low and I was still taking in 150 grams of carbs everyday.

So, I started sipping soda constantly (I should have used fruit juice but I love Mt Dew hahaha) and I felt a billion times better within an hour. I also didn't gain any body fat, just got super full and vascular. Tren was a 1 time deal for me, shit was absolute fire for lean mass and strength. Now that I'm no longer using aas, the only aas I miss using was anadrol and tren. Amazing stuff. Seriously felt like the hulk. Gave me no mood changes, no night sweats, just terrible feeling with hypoglycemia that first week. I could toss heavy weight around like feathers, made PR's like a boss every 5 days. When I got to 247 people couldn't believe how huge I was. I wasn't ifbb big, but for a guy who weighed 170 in high school at 6'2, 247 and about 12% bf was fucking beast. Could rep 315 22 times and I'm naturally a skinny puss that could barely do 135 when I was 21 years old.


Anyways, ya rob, up the carbs more and I'm willing to bet you'll have a much more pleasant experience the rest of your run and make better gains. Also take an extra multivitamin every other day. 50mg ed of a compound this strong is hardcore. Guys that do 100mg ed are insane.
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All I can say is THANKS! That has been me this whole last cycle.

I've been hypo and nauseated the whole time. I'm going to try something like you mentioned. My daughter likes when I buy honey sticks. I think I'm going to pull on those during the day.

Been a great thread, SD. Keep up the good work.
 
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