Cycle plan- any advice is very welcome

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yeah i've heard acne is the #1 side from primo, worst compound for this so if you are trying to avoid acne i wouldn't choose primo. but acne at least in my case is completely preventable with an extra shower every day and tanning. tanning being the bigger of the two, actually if i tan 2x a week i get zero acne while on.

and i would say dbol is a good choice, if you are worried about bloating issues just keep the dose low, 20-25mgs along with injectables will work great it's very powerful mg for mg.

 

[shaw001]

yeah i've heard acne is the #1 side from primo, worst compound for this so if you are trying to avoid acne i wouldn't choose primo. but acne at least in my case is completely preventable with an extra shower every day and tanning. tanning being the bigger of the two, actually if i tan 2x a week i get zero acne while on.

and i would say dbol is a good choice, if you are worried about bloating issues just keep the dose low, 20-25mgs along with injectables will work great it's very powerful mg for mg.

sh@t i didnt realise primo was bad for acne, i thought it was less androgenic than many other AAS therefore it was lighter on the sides, including acne?!

Ive just managed to get hold of a load of anavar. Is it ok to take it for the full 10weeks of my cycle or is it best to stick to 6 weeks max like other orals? I have researched and found it is supposed to be less liver toxic and have found many people use it long term in their cycles- if they can afford it.. lol

will it still produce gains after the 6 week period? no point using it for the full cycle length if isnt beneficial.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

sh@t i didnt realise primo was bad for acne, i thought it was less androgenic than many other AAS therefore it was lighter on the sides, including acne?!

Ive just managed to get hold of a load of anavar. Is it ok to take it for the full 10weeks of my cycle or is it best to stick to 6 weeks max like other orals? I have researched and found it is supposed to be less liver toxic and have found many people use it long term in their cycles- if they can afford it.. lol

will it still produce gains after the 6 week period? no point using it for the full cycle length if isnt beneficial.

Did you take into consideration your chelosterol levels IF you're going to run anavar that long?

In my opinion anavar is TOTALLY overrated.

 

[shaw001]

Did you take into consideration your chelosterol levels IF you're going to run anavar that long?

In my opinion anavar is TOTALLY overrated.

Have you used it personally mate? Ive never run an oral more than six weeks and i dont think its necessary so ill stick to 6 weeks with the var.

would you suggest doing it at the start or the end?

Ive also got a load of tren ace in my goodie box. but that stuff is HARSH. even though it literally changed my body shape i dont know if im ready for the sides it gave me last time. lol

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Hey Guys, Ive got three test based cycles under my belt. About to start a new lean bulk cycle, I know its summer but what the hell.
My current stats are 6ft 1in, 100kg, 14% bodyfat.

Im very prone to acne and water retention so ive decided to keep my test involvement to a minimum, I would like to know what people think of the low dose of test supported by ligher doses ofother compunds. If i didnt appreciate the fact that test should be a base for all cycles i would have left it out completely.

Ive gone for a couple of compounds which are mild in respect to side.

cycle:

Test E weeks 1-10 250mg p/w
Equipoise weeks 1-10 400mg p/w
Primobolan weeks 1-10 300mg p/w
Anavar/t-bol weeks 5-10 50mg e/d
adex 0.5mg e/d
HCG 1500iu weeks 9-11


pct will be

clomid
300mg day 1
100mg 2-10
50mg 11-21

Nolvadex
40mg 1-14
20mg 15-21

any advice on fine tuning this will be more than welcome. Im looking for some lean gains, not a huge 20 lb increase, just solid and consistent. advice on amounts of compounds i should use or perhaps add or change.

cheers guys

Personally, I'd jumpstart the cycle with the Tbol since you're using a long estered test (Dbol would be better, but use what you have). Drop the EQ, and just run the Primo... and tan as recommended to avoid the acne (Everyone is different, I get very little). Finish the last 6 weeks with var at 40-60 mg/day. Run the HCG at 500 ius (250 iu 2x/week) throughout the cycle to keep your balls running strong. Drop the clomid for PCT since you're running HCG, and pick up some Sustain Alpha to run with the nolvadex. And lastly, if you're prone to bloat... clean up your diet, and do cardio.

 

[shaw001]

Personally, I'd jumpstart the cycle with the Tbol since you're using a long estered test (Dbol would be better, but use what you have). Drop the EQ, and just run the Primo... and tan as recommended to avoid the acne (Everyone is different, I get very little). Finish the last 6 weeks with var at 40-60 mg/day. Run the HCG at 500 ius (250 iu 2x/week) throughout the cycle to keep your balls running strong. Drop the clomid for PCT since you're running HCG, and pick up some Sustain Alpha to run with the nolvadex. And lastly, if you're prone to bloat... clean up your diet, and do cardio.

what does of primo have people seen the most gains from? its expensive so i wouldnt really want to go over 400mg p/w.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

what does of primo have people seen the most gains from? its expensive so i wouldnt really want to go over 400mg p/w.

Huh? 400mg p/w is fine.

 

[dabuffguy]

Ive tried dbol on a previous bulking cycle and i blew up but i hate the way my face looks like a puffer fish and all the water i get. I haven't tried t-bol but i have access to it and its cheap, so it might be the option i go for. there seems to be mixed feelings with regards to t-bols effectiveness. could someone elaborate on this?

will i still see good gains off just 250mg test per week due the synergistic effects of including other compounds at higher amounts? ive previously always included 500mg test e/w

thanks

In 6 weeks my bench was up 60 pounds on t-bol. tbol is an aas, it is potent, but not superman like dbol. it works, try it. you'll like it if it's not underdosed. 50mg should do the trick.

 

[shaw001]

In 6 weeks my bench was up 60 pounds on t-bol. tbol is an aas, it is potent, but not superman like dbol. it works, try it. you'll like it if it's not underdosed. 50mg should do the trick.

cool. cheers for the input guys

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Have you used it personally mate? Ive never run an oral more than six weeks and i dont think its necessary so ill stick to 6 weeks with the var.

would you suggest doing it at the start or the end?

Ive also got a load of tren ace in my goodie box. but that stuff is HARSH. even though it literally changed my body shape i dont know if im ready for the sides it gave me last time. lol

Yes, I have used anavar before. That's why I think it is totally overrated for me anyhow.

I would use the anavar at the end of your cycle.

Good idea with the tren.