Cycle plan- any advice is very welcome

[shaw001]

Hey Guys, Ive got three test based cycles under my belt. About to start a new lean bulk cycle, I know its summer but what the hell.
My current stats are 6ft 1in, 100kg, 14% bodyfat.

Im very prone to acne and water retention so ive decided to keep my test involvement to a minimum, I would like to know what people think of the low dose of test supported by ligher doses ofother compunds. If i didnt appreciate the fact that test should be a base for all cycles i would have left it out completely.

Ive gone for a couple of compounds which are mild in respect to side.

cycle:

Test E weeks 1-10 250mg p/w
Equipoise weeks 1-10 400mg p/w
Primobolan weeks 1-10 300mg p/w
Anavar/t-bol weeks 5-10 50mg e/d
adex 0.5mg e/d
HCG 1500iu weeks 9-11


pct will be

clomid
300mg day 1
100mg 2-10
50mg 11-21

Nolvadex
40mg 1-14
20mg 15-21

any advice on fine tuning this will be more than welcome. Im looking for some lean gains, not a huge 20 lb increase, just solid and consistent. advice on amounts of compounds i should use or perhaps add or change.

cheers guys

 

[dabuffguy]

Hey Guys, Ive got three test based cycles under my belt. About to start a new lean bulk cycle, I know its summer but what the hell.
My current stats are 6ft 1in, 100kg, 14% bodyfat.

Im very prone to acne and water retention so ive decided to keep my test involvement to a minimum, I would like to know what people think of the low dose of test supported by ligher doses ofother compunds. If i didnt appreciate the fact that test should be a base for all cycles i would have left it out completely.

Ive gone for a couple of compounds which are mild in respect to side.

cycle:

Test E weeks 1-10 250mg p/w
Equipoise weeks 1-10 400mg p/w
Primobolan weeks 1-10 300mg p/w
Anavar/t-bol weeks 5-10 50mg e/d
adex 0.5mg e/d
HCG 1500iu weeks 9-11


pct will be

clomid
300mg day 1
100mg 2-10
50mg 11-21

Nolvadex
40mg 1-14
20mg 15-21

any advice on fine tuning this will be more than welcome. Im looking for some lean gains, not a huge 20 lb increase, just solid and consistent. advice on amounts of compounds i should use or perhaps add or change.

cheers guys

I wouldn't go with EQ and primo at the same time because of their similar effects on composition. I would opt to drop the EQ altogether and run primo at 400 instead of 300. Kick off with tbol for 4 weeks @ 50mg and finish the last 4 with var @ 40mg.

 

[shaw001]

I wouldn't go with EQ and primo at the same time because of their similar effects on composition. I would opt to drop the EQ altogether and run primo at 400 instead of 300. Kick off with tbol for 4 weeks @ 50mg and finish the last 4 with var @ 40mg.

Are you not a fan of eq? or do you just prefer primo?

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

I wouldn't go with EQ and primo at the same time because of their similar effects on composition. I would opt to drop the EQ altogether and run primo at 400 instead of 300. Kick off with tbol for 4 weeks @ 50mg and finish the last 4 with var @ 40mg.

+1 but I would run D-bol insted of the T-Bol. D-bol is the king of orals in my opinion.

 

[cobracock1979]

Prone to acne + water retention - think this is why tbol was suggested

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Prone to acne + water retention - think this is why tbol was suggested

Yeah, but T-bol is weak.

 

[shaw001]

Yeah, but T-bol is weak.

Ive tried dbol on a previous bulking cycle and i blew up but i hate the way my face looks like a puffer fish and all the water i get. I haven't tried t-bol but i have access to it and its cheap, so it might be the option i go for. there seems to be mixed feelings with regards to t-bols effectiveness. could someone elaborate on this?

will i still see good gains off just 250mg test per week due the synergistic effects of including other compounds at higher amounts? ive previously always included 500mg test e/w

thanks

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I am quite prone to acne as well and when I used primo (about 7 years back) I got acne like mad. I was on between 300 and 400mgs a week.

 

[cobracock1979]

I never tried Tbol - I would like to use it as a kicker in my next cycle but dont have access to it.

Yeah I agree, lotta mixed reports. Sounds like DBols little sister.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

I never tried Tbol - I would like to use it as a kicker in my next cycle but dont have access to it.

Yeah I agree, lotta mixed reports. Sounds like DBols little sister.

Yes it is.

If you're going to run the Primo. don't do less than 400mg per week.