Cycle help please!!

[MRG01]

Haha thanks dylan for the help man, and sorry about the misunderstanding, i'm a newbie and should've come better prepared stepping into you guys's world. I had planned on the n2guard as well as forged joint, but I will definitely get the HCG and have Aromasin for on cycle now. Thanks again broseph.

 

[MRG01]

now thats more fucking like it man! okay... im not sure which kind of test you are going to run but i am going to lay it out for you as if you are using test-e... i think you are aiming a bit low on your mg dosage of test and could do 500... so here is what it would look like

1-12 test e 500 mg/wk... 250mg each pin
7-12 winstrol 50 mg day ( you can run it 4 weeks if you like but 6 would be optimal)
5-12 hcgenerate- 5 caps a day 3 in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m.

as far as aromasin, definitely have it on hand... i also use an a.i. on cycle to be preventative and to reduce bloat... if you don't need it during cycle then so be it but you absolutely want to have it on hand in case you have any sort of gyno occurrence...

you also need to take n2guard at least during the winstrol portion of your cycle... it is toxic and you need to protect your liver and bp...

i would definitely recommend having forged joint repair as well because winny will definitely dry out your joints and could cause some pain there... some get it more than others but you need to make sure you are covered for this...

PCT - two weeks after your last pin

clomid- 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol


there you go man... hope this helps!

You are the man Dylan, thanks for the layout brother. The need2buildmuscle website, is that a good and reliable site?

 

[dylangemelli]

Haha thanks dylan for the help man, and sorry about the misunderstanding, i'm a newbie and should've come better prepared stepping into you guys's world. I had planned on the n2guard as well as forged joint, but I will definitely get the HCG and have Aromasin for on cycle now. Thanks again broseph.

its all good man... all i needed was a little smidge of info from you and that's what you can always expect in return man... im always here if you need anything! good luck!

 

[MRG01]

Hey Dylan, do you think running a 6 week test e/winstrol cycle is too short? My total goals are not to really gain 15-20 pounds so I was thinking was there still a need for a 12 week cycle? I wanted more of a 5-6 lean muscle gain. I would still do everything the same obviously with the on cycle HCG, post of the clomid, unleashed, and forma stanzol, but just start the test e / winny at the same time and just post after 6? Or because the test levels really aren't there until 5-6 weeks in, it would be worthless for a cycle that short?

 

[joeblow12345]

Hey Dylan, do you think running a 6 week test e/winstrol cycle is too short? My total goals are not to really gain 15-20 pounds so I was thinking was there still a need for a 12 week cycle? I wanted more of a 5-6 lean muscle gain. I would still do everything the same obviously with the on cycle HCG, post of the clomid, unleashed, and forma stanzol, but just start the test e / winny at the same time and just post after 6? Or because the test levels really aren't there until 5-6 weeks in, it would be worthless for a cycle that short?

Yes 6 Weeks of test e is to short. If you only wanna do 6 Weeks run test prop instead. If your running test e 10 Weeks is the minimum Id run it.

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[MRG01]

I kinda answered my own questions here, I searched and found some test p alternates to test e if you are only wanting to do an 8 week cycle, so I'll look into that.

 

[MRG01]

Yes 6 Weeks of test e is to short. If you only wanna do 6 Weeks run test prop instead. If your running test e 10 Weeks is the minimum Id run it.

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Thanks a lot Joe, so with 6-8 weeks of the tes p if i decide to go that way with the winny. Now I'm sorry if i'm repeating myself i get a little confused with the on cycle and ai stuff. Stay with adex or aromasin, or forma stanzol for the ai, and HCGenerate on cycle? Then for post go clomid, and unleashed/post combo? Is nova no good, i see a lot of pepole doing nova for post?

 

[joeblow12345]

Thanks a lot Joe, so with 6-8 weeks stay with the test p/winny, stick to aromasin,adex,or hcgenerate or forma stanzol on cycle? clomid, unleashed/post cycle combo ?

The oncycle support,pct and ais Dylan laid out are good to go. And for the short cycle test p/ winny is solid. Like I said test e is pointless on short cycles.

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[MRG01]

Awesome, then I will do exactly as the man Dylan said, thanks a ton for the help on the shorter cycle broseph, I greatly appreciate it. Again sorry for the redundancy, just wanna make sure I have it down right.

 

[dylangemelli]

Awesome, then I will do exactly as the man Dylan said, thanks a ton for the help on the shorter cycle broseph, I greatly appreciate it. Again sorry for the redundancy, just wanna make sure I have it down right.

its no problem on the redundancy man... its better to ask than to not ask and fuck it up... so don't worry about that...

i would not run any sort of test under 8 weeks, even prop... there's no point in not getting the full effects out of everything you run... understand though, if you have never pinned, prop may not be the best choice to start with... its one of the more painful injections you can do... plus you will be pinning it EOD... as opposed to twice a week on test e or c... but if you just want to run winny by itself, thats totally fine man! you can still get nice results... it won't be a 20 lb. gain or anything crazy but 5-7 lbs of nice lean mass is totally obtainable... if you need anything, pm me and i will always be here to help...