Cutting diary

[tuc biscuit]

"Fatty would you like some sausages?"


Right, this is a sort of cutting diary, I will log on every day and post up what I have eaten and what cardio I have done, hoping to go from around 20% to around 10-12%, we shall see. Please post up your support or any insults, both motivate me.

Ok, no time to start like the present. About two hours ago, I had my last 'bad' meal of two quarterpounders with cheese.

8:15pm --- 1 pint of skimmed milk and 1 tuna milkshake

10:30pm --- 2 pints of skimmed milk

stay tuned for tommorow.

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

erm okay

 

[juve]

'1 tuna milkshake'

taste is usually not a variable for me when it comes to food consumption...but I would definately rethink this one..

also I would exactly say that milk is cutting food, not to mention you're consuming carbs (lactose sugars) without any activity involved - this is a waste and will most likely be converted to fat

 

[~SC~]

I'm w/BA and Juve......

your last bad meal was all 3 of those...............milk??????? WTF?
That's no meal, and it's a rather shitty food choice no matter what. Lactose will do nothing positive for you while dieting.


~SC~

 

[tuc biscuit]

I've read to the contrary, I can handle lactose as well. I thought that lactose was a reasonably complex carb, whilst not as good as brown rice, oameal etc. I heard it was a darn site better than sucrose. I started another thread on milk fairlly recently and it was a resounding vote of confidence, but please educate me on why not. Would it be acceptable to have a couple of pints of skimmed milk and a piece of salmon before bedtime as a meal?

A note on the tuna milkshake, I slap a tin of tuna and some water in a blender, blend and drink, it is not too bad and I would rather do that than mess about eating dry tuna.

 

[~SC~]

Handling lactose is not the issue. Look @ the carb content in 1 cup of milk. Then look at how many of those grams of carbs are SUGAR........(hint: ALL)

Then tell me how that can benefit you while attempting to get cut. Especially when you have 100's of other foods that are much cleaner to choose from.

I don't wanna banter back and forth about this, but really, one can read anything "contrary" to what someone says, but that does not mean it's true either. Do what you wish bruh, but I say take out milk and use something else. If not, no biggie, it's your body and goals, no-one else's.

~SC~

 

[tuc biscuit]

Handling lactose is not the issue. Look @ the carb content in 1 cup of milk. Then look at how many of those grams of carbs are SUGAR........(hint: ALL)

Then tell me how that can benefit you while attempting to get cut. Especially when you have 100's of other foods that are much cleaner to choose from.

I don't wanna banter back and forth about this, but really, one can read anything "contrary" to what someone says, but that does not mean it's true either. Do what you wish bruh, but I say take out milk and use something else. If not, no biggie, it's your body and goals, no-one else's.

~SC~

Fair enough, I will cut it out.

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

I'm with SC
You can trade those lactose carbs, whilst they are lower gi than sugar for something more complex that will do u better, keep you fuller for longer, provide you with sustained energy... im talking oatmeal dude

 

[JKurz1]

Milk is a great bodybuilding food....just shouldn't be a staple or used in such huge quantities.........

 

[~SC~]

Milk is a great bodybuilding food....just shouldn't be a staple or used in such huge quantities.........

At times I wonder if people read the preface/previous conversation regarding one's goals before responding.

What a slippery slope statement.

~SC~

 

[JKurz1]

Oh relax SC......I've kep skim in my diet precontest and got <5%.........keep wondering.....

 

[tuc biscuit]

Going better today so far, I've had whole eggs and egg whites, granary bread, tuna, mixed beans and cottage cheese thus far oh yes protein shake as well, a ton of water on top of that.

 

[JKurz1]

Now, as far as bread goes, that's one thing I could never even look at and get into contest form....but, what works for some, may not work for others.....depends on how YOUR body metabolizes it.....

 

[tuc biscuit]

Not looking to get contest ready, just wanna come dowen from about 18-20% to about 10-12%. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply Jkurz1, hope ya continue to do so.

 

[~SC~]

Oh relax SC......I've kep skim in my diet precontest and got <5%.........keep wondering.....

I don't have to keep wondering, but you should pay attention to the actual thread. As well, I know what I look like, yet we've never seen any of your pics. So please, amaze us w/your 5% bodyfat milk laden results. 5% ain't shit bro, tell me when u hit 2-3, then I'll be more "amazed". I can walk around at 5% 3/4 of the year, u aren't breaking any walls down w/that "news". Matter of fact, I'll continue to wonder, as your second response again has nothing to do w/the thread starter. You are talking about your experiences, but we are talking about what the general concensus is for dairy and achieving ultimate condition. You may be able to get away w/dairy, but the majority of people WILL NOT, and again, 5% is nothing to brag about. It's a good accomplishment for you perhaps, but to people like me who deal w/athletes daily, it's quite the norm.

Anyhow, your response had nothing to do w/the thread and the thread starter's goals, that was my point. You missed that yet again, but somehow that doesn't surprise me.

Go grab a glass of moo juice.......

~SC~

 

[JKurz1]

ok sc....not gonna waste my time....t-bis....buzz me

 

[tuc biscuit]

buzz?

 

[~SC~]

Kurz, I didn't wanna argue or anything, I was just trying to help this guy out ya know? That's all............if dairy/milk works for you, that's great, however I'd feel like I'm misleading tuc-b if I told him it would be a good idea to include it.

Didn't mean to jump all over you, but I hope you can see my point as well.

Tuc, by "buzz" I believe he means private message him.

~SC~

 

[tuc biscuit]

I am trying to go from 18-20% down to 10%, would milk be acceptable to include for this purpose? or is it no good for cutting no matter what bf% you are?

 

[JKurz1]

sc - NO PROBLEM....that's why I said it works for me or it may work for some, but not others.....if you want to be safe, nix the milk and nix the bread....then you can try and add one or two and see what it does........it's all good SC......I'm not 5% now, btw....but have gotten there with milk pre-contest......can't believe you said it ain't shit....I worked my ass offfffffffff! LOL......
Peace

 

[~SC~]

It is a good accomplishment, yes, but I guess I've grown accustomed to seeing/working with those who are at that level of fitness. It is a good accomplishment nonetheless!

Tuc B, I'd take both out, just to assure yourself you are doing the best you can at eating as clean as you can, thus giving you the shortest route to your desired results. Once there, u can add them back in and see what happens. Myself, I just don't have any use for milk, unless it's my cheat day w/some Lucky Charms or CapN Crunch!

~SC~

 

[tuc biscuit]

Fair enough, I have been good today, gonna have some salmon later, then cottage cheese a couple of hours later before bed, would that be acceptable?

 

[JKurz1]

uh oh.....dairy, dairy, dairy...........nix the dairy............if you are gonna nix the milk...........

 

[tuc biscuit]

Damn............no cottage cheese? I will have to become a vegan before long lol.

 

[tuc biscuit]

WAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I just had to chug down a pint of tuna milkshake instead of some nice creamy cottage cheese thanks to you guys, lol.

 

[dzuljas]

i thought that lactose was on the medium level as far as GI is concerned. I have been drinking whole milk with my protein shakes to get some extra cals and fat, but this is only during bulking......I think what i am going to do when i cut is get flax powder added into my protein shake, and get rid of the milk......

 

[dr0832]

damn I was not aware that there was something wrong with skim milk. I am not a pro body builder by any means, but I am trying to drop my body fat. I believe I am at 10-11% but I am going to be checked wed. I would like to get to 7-8% and then start bulking slowly from there to put on so lean muscle, and then I guess I will start cutting again to drop the extra I put on to look good for next summer. Will 8 oz of milk 4-5 times per week with a protein shake after a work out going to prevent me from doing this? I have tryed taking protein with water. Its pretty nasty in my opinion. Is this what the majority of body builders are doing?

 

[JKurz1]

Like I said, I continue to use skim throughout my training......usually no more than 8oz/day just because I'm not that big of a fan, but it does thicken up the shakes a little bit.......go for it and see how it effects you.........

 

[tuc biscuit]

Not bad today, but not good enough, haven't got enough good clean calories in me.

 

[overhead]

nothing wrong with cottage cheese, I cup has 5 carbs and *26 grams* of protein, where a cup of skim milk has 11 carbs(some more) and 8 grams of protein.