Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Some say start ai at outset of test cycle, others a few weeks in and others say only if needed. I understand about the reduction of estrogen and its benefits such as reduced bloating, no gyno, etc... But doesn't ai also eliminate some if the benefits of test as well by lowering estrogen too much? I guess it's trial and error with each person and that's how you get to know your own body and how it will react... Am I correct??
Cutting Cycle for Physique Competition
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Correct. Controlling estrogen is the main goal, not eliminating it.
NegroPops
Banned
Test E can cause a little bit more bloat from water than Test Prop. As long as you keep your estrogen in check, then it should not be that big of a deal. I would recommend upping your AI dose the last few weeks before contest to get all of that water out. It may suck for a week or so.. but it won't be the end of the world. I would really add in masteron and winstrol to your cycle.. those two compounds will make your physique dry and hard like nothing else. The DHT compounds are huuuuuge when it comes to contests. Anavar is good for the end of a cycle.. but I just don't think it will give you the same look masteron and winny will. I'd go like this..
1-12 Test E 250 mg/week
1-12 Mast E 600 mg/week
1-6 T-Bol 60 mg/day
8-12 Winstrol 80 mg/day
1-12 Arimidex .5 mg/eod, bump the dose to 1g ed the last 2 weeks.
1-12 Test E 250 mg/week
1-12 Mast E 600 mg/week
1-6 T-Bol 60 mg/day
8-12 Winstrol 80 mg/day
1-12 Arimidex .5 mg/eod, bump the dose to 1g ed the last 2 weeks.
Ok... Just an update. I'm 12 days into Tbol at 60mg per day and have pinned 3 times. Almost passed out the first time as I am scared of needles....lol. 150ml per shot with test e 2x per week. Tbol is excellent so far! No sides... About 6-7 pounds of gain and no water. My strength and endurance have both increased. Personal bests in most lifts already. Going to run the Tbol for 4 weeks total and finish with anavar on the back end.
Still holding off on the ai (armidex) for now. I originally planned on taking it by now, and I will add it later once the test kicks in to combat estro spike. All in all, so far so good. Thanks for your help and I'll report back if that's ok as things progress.
Still holding off on the ai (armidex) for now. I originally planned on taking it by now, and I will add it later once the test kicks in to combat estro spike. All in all, so far so good. Thanks for your help and I'll report back if that's ok as things progress.
rustilldown
New member
Awesome update bro
keep it up. I recognize everyone is telling you to add this and that but your original post states you can't get more and want to utilize what you have . That being said I think you will do well with finishing with anavar at 80 on the tail end of the cycle. Dht is great though for that very hard look. Even proviron or winny would be nice if you COULD get it, but If not you should still do well.
keep it up. I recognize everyone is telling you to add this and that but your original post states you can't get more and want to utilize what you have . That being said I think you will do well with finishing with anavar at 80 on the tail end of the cycle. Dht is great though for that very hard look. Even proviron or winny would be nice if you COULD get it, but If not you should still do well.
Very nice for only 12 days in!
Thanks! I feel my diet and training have been solid for awhile and being in my 40's, the aas are making a big difference. I think I may have to be careful not to overtrain as I find myself wanting to add a few more sets! Show is still over 11 weeks out and I don't want to over do it. Will post back progress. Everyone's help here has been appreciated!
I was reading through some Lewellin material I have from 2009 and there was an interesting lean cutting cycle I saw its only 8 weeks and test free. I'll have to update the doses later but I believe it was Winstrol, Proviron, and Tren.
Might be worth trying if you do a comp again or just look to lean out. I can get the doses when I get home.
Might be worth trying if you do a comp again or just look to lean out. I can get the doses when I get home.
Ok... Here's another update: 3 1/2 weeks in on Tbol at 60 mg. weight gain is still holding steady at 7-8 pounds. Nipples got sensitive ( from 300 mg test I would guess) so I started armidex .5 eod. It leaned me out in 3 days by removing some water and nips better. Considering backing off to .25 eod. Still not feeling the test yet...but looking very lean. Diet remains in check.
Here is a question: there are ten weeks left until the competition. I was planning on adding the anavar during the last 6. My question is on the test dose.... Should I up it to 400 mg for the last ten weeks. Or, keep it at 300mg? Keep in mind I will start cutting about 4/5 weeks out if I stay this lean (about 8/9 percent ). So, with ten weeks out, will the extra 100mg per week help me add a bit more muscle? Or, am I just second guessing myself because the test really hasn't kicked in yet? Reminder that this is my first cycle and also my first competition. Thanks in advance!
Here is a question: there are ten weeks left until the competition. I was planning on adding the anavar during the last 6. My question is on the test dose.... Should I up it to 400 mg for the last ten weeks. Or, keep it at 300mg? Keep in mind I will start cutting about 4/5 weeks out if I stay this lean (about 8/9 percent ). So, with ten weeks out, will the extra 100mg per week help me add a bit more muscle? Or, am I just second guessing myself because the test really hasn't kicked in yet? Reminder that this is my first cycle and also my first competition. Thanks in advance!
