Thanks Bunny, i have not looked at the scale for a couple of weeks now. I have not a clue what i am at the minute but i havent noticed any pants being tight yet, but still have another 5 weeks to run on this, if the gains are minimal i will just run it again. I still feel i havent got this diet down yet im sure i am not eating enough, im using fitday but its more about what food types when etc that i have not got used to. I had my cutting diet down to a "T" trial and error with this at the minute.