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Crossy`s Log: Progression through Starrs 5 x 5

al420 said:
Don;t dog your own PR's bro - your bench max is just as heavy as anyone elses - it;s all relative as you know. Just be proud and have your goals. We all want to push/pull more weight. I don;t think that ever changes.

Good job - start killing those PR's bro
For once I am agreeing with your entire post!

Cross, GREAT JOB!
Keep at it. Seriously, if you are not past the point where the scale will not phuck with you, then don't look at it.

Tell yourself on those days your pants are way tight... you're trying to build muscle and increase strength, not to mention eating more carbs ALL with minimal fat gain...

Piece-a-cake right? :verygood: :)
 
yo cross, you have just about motivated me to start my own LOG!! you and sarge....killer dedication!!

is your shoulder still bothering you.....i'm noticing your bench weights have gone down just a pinch? or am i seeing that wrong?
 
Thanks Everyone its good to read other peoples comments :)

Did someone mention cake :chomp:

Thanks Bunny, i have not looked at the scale for a couple of weeks now. I have not a clue what i am at the minute but i havent noticed any pants being tight yet, but still have another 5 weeks to run on this. If the gains are minimal i will just run it again instead of a cutter. I still feel i havent got this diet down yet im sure i am not eating enough. I am using fitday but its more about what/how much food, types when etc that i have not got used to. I had my cutting diet down to a "T", trial and error with this one at the minute. Im abit worried about they stubborn fat area on my stomach (the dreaded pouch) its pissing me off its the one bit that i hate now hopefully it will shift sonner or later. I was looking at Yohimburn but gonna leave that for a while yet until i reach my far away goal of 11-12%BF.

PitBull good job on starting a log bro i love the encouragment and advice i am getting on mine its priceless. Your eyes are not playing you up my bench has dropped slightly it just did not feel right at all and with my shoulder giving my abit if hastle i thought it would be wiser to do a weight i was more comfortable with. The last time i did bench on monday it felt good, around 110lb it goes up again this week on friday see how i go. My shoulder has not give me shit for a few days now so fingers crossed its alright.
 
crossy said:
Thanks Bunny, i have not looked at the scale for a couple of weeks now. I have not a clue what i am at the minute but i havent noticed any pants being tight yet, but still have another 5 weeks to run on this, if the gains are minimal i will just run it again. I still feel i havent got this diet down yet im sure i am not eating enough, im using fitday but its more about what food types when etc that i have not got used to. I had my cutting diet down to a "T" trial and error with this at the minute.
Well think of it like this...

"5 X 220 PR (Extra set, could have added more "weight to this but resisted)

&

3 X 12 Needsize Abs (Starting to slow down the 5 count)"

^^ Sounds like you have more in you... to me this means the food should be doing your body good if you are progressing with the weights and not increasing the waist line too much ... BUT... your PRs just started... I'm not sure when the workouts will be getting to that 'difficult' stage to make you WORK but if your strength dips, feel tired, groggy, want a little extra UMPHF for your workout, etc then you may need to eat more, or try it out every now & then. You will be able to judge this better as the weeks go on.

I think it's always about finding what works for you ... i.e. cutting... that diet worked pretty dang good for you... your form, you made minor adjustments that work for you... same with food... think of it as always learning what works for your body, you'll never know unless you make the adjustments.

Yes I said cake :)
 
I didnt look at it like that Bunny thanks. Them Needsize abs are killers, you can feel them alright. Im pretty sure im gonna have to run this thing again but its all good maybe i will jusr run it for a extra 4-5 weeks.

Thanks again hun appreciated as always.
 
right right.....are you eating enough carbs, etc.....

hope your shoulder is ok.....heat that bad boy.....and definitely give it a break until it feels ready....

rock n roll bro
 
I was given shoulder advice from a very smart rabbit who will remain nameless........... ok, it was Bunny.

Push/press/dig at the shoulder for 10-15 minutes, then ice it for 20min on/20min off. Do this for 3-4 sets per evening and your shoulder will be just fine if it is anything like mine was (injured it doing close grips, didn;t press for 2 weeks). It is much better now. Also - try making an arm motion simaler to a jumping jack where your hands turn over about half way up - this motion is great for the RC and really help me loosen it up after a heavy pressing day.
 
al420 said:
I was given shoulder advice from a very smart rabbit who will remain nameless........... ok, it was Bunny.

Push/press/dig at the shoulder for 10-15 minutes, then ice it for 20min on/20min off. Do this for 3-4 sets per evening and your shoulder will be just fine if it is anything like mine was (injured it doing close grips, didn;t press for 2 weeks). It is much better now. Also - try making an arm motion simaler to a jumping jack where your hands turn over about half way up - this motion is great for the RC and really help me loosen it up after a heavy pressing day.
LOL ... My issue stemmed from incorrect form on Bench & although I swear my form was NOT bad on dips, going too far down tweaked something in my pec minor tie in area ... tossed dips (I know guys will give you shit if you do this, but WATCH YOUR FORM) ... tucked 'bows in for bench and re-learned to close grip bench ... after 2 weeks beat out my PR from improper form... Not bad. :)

I would say the last 9 out of 10 people with similar injuries have been culprits of improper form when it comes to benching & dips, but just the last 10 I've talked to.

Can you get a massage in you area? Sports or my fave deep tissue? Other than getting a doc's opinion (that should go without saying) the Trigger Point Technique al is referring to is one way massage therapists can treat or have suggested as treatment to issues similar to what you speak of. EVen acupressure technique as well. Generically speaking, the icing helps with the inflamation.You can ask Treil for more specific info on it, I'm sure she'd offer her advice as well.

interesting site I JUST found :)

http://www.ultimatewatermassage.com/massage-types-trigger-self.htm

Combined positioning and specific finger or thumb pressure into trigger point theraphy in muscle and connective tissue, to reduce the hypersensitivity, muscle spasms and referred pain patterns that characterize the point. Left untreated, such trigger/tender points often lead to restricted and painful movement of entire body regionsThe
 
Thanks for all the advice. Im pretty sure mine has stemmed from shitty form on the bench. But saying that i have a few things i need to get checked one near my neck just left of my spine. It dosent ache all the time just occasionly say when leaning over and supporting my body with my left arm i feel a twinge abit like something is rubbing, pins and needles sorta feeling for a brief few seconds. My shoulder has not been to bad will soon see on fridays lift as the same weight im lifting fri is when i last felt it.

Thanks again everyone :)

Pitbull my carbs are around 340grams at the minute give or take a few. I tend to eat lower carbs on non training days due to me wanting to stay lean as possible. But i just used Pintocas gainer calc and accoring to that im supposed to be eating over 400grams will check this out more tomorrow though as its just gone 1am here need to sleep some :)
 
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