CrossFit and Gear?

[Catman22]

Sounds good judo,
How low?
I was thinking of running Var (40-60mg ed) and Test Prop (100mg ed)
Would that be too high?
Yea I was thinking of running 5/3/1 but just calculating rolling %max rather than sticking to a set max (i.e. when my max increases I will take the percentage of the new max rather than sticking to % of the original max?)

 

[stevesmi]

i would recommend also an improvement in your diet.. i know a lot of crossfit guys love the Paleo diet which is very similar to a good bodybuilder diet. both feed on real food, not processed.

 

[Judo Tom]

Sounds good judo,
How low?
I was thinking of running Var (40-60mg ed) and Test Prop (100mg ed)
Would that be too high?
Yea I was thinking of running 5/3/1 but just calculating rolling %max rather than sticking to a set max (i.e. when my max increases I will take the percentage of the new max rather than sticking to % of the original max?)

I think thats WAY to high.. start w/ half of all that.. and dont be surprised if you wanna go lower.

700mg of prop might cripple you during runs/cardio stuff like that

go 5/3/1 and just increase bench/press 5lbs a month and squat/deads 10 a month and it will work out nicely for a while.. in a few months just recalculate and see how it goes

 

[Catman22]

OK judo sounds good!
So something like 40mg var and 50mg prop ed?
Really appreciate all the advice!

And Stevesmi, yea I follow paleo and eat very clean, I would obviously up the food intake on cycle.

 

[Judo Tom]

give that a try and just be willing to adjust as necessary.. about a week in you will be going full blast and just see how you feel.. it might take some more time for the rbc levels to peak so again dont be freaked out if you have to lower it.. remember if performance is your goal stay focused on that not dosage.

 

[Catman22]

give that a try and just be willing to adjust as necessary.. about a week in you will be going full blast and just see how you feel.. it might take some more time for the rbc levels to peak so again dont be freaked out if you have to lower it.. remember if performance is your goal stay focused on that not dosage.

Thanks again Judo, sorry to ask a stupid question but what is RBC?
Red Blood Count?

Yea I will start off lower and try to find the sweet spot.

What sort of sides should I be looking for if the does is too high? Just big pumps, or any other indicators?

I know taurine is meant to help with pumps, I was also going to use beta alanine, arganine, citruline mallate, d-aspartic acid, glutamine, and obviously creatine.
Any other supplements I should look into to help?

 

[Zyglamail]

Thanks again Judo, sorry to ask a stupid question but what is RBC?
Red Blood Count?

Yea I will start off lower and try to find the sweet spot.

What sort of sides should I be looking for if the does is too high? Just big pumps, or any other indicators?

I know taurine is meant to help with pumps, I was also going to use beta alanine, arganine, citruline mallate, d-aspartic acid, glutamine, and obviously creatine.
Any other supplements I should look into to help?

yes, rbc is red blood cell count. High rbc raises viscosity of blood raises BP and outright causes the heart to work harder 24x7. ultimatly causing thickening of walls and heart problems.

 

[Catman22]

yes, rbc is red blood cell count. High rbc raises viscosity of blood raises BP and outright causes the heart to work harder 24x7. ultimatly causing thickening of walls and heart problems.

Thanks Zyglamail!
Surely a raised RBC would be beneficial to endurance though as RBCs carry oxygen to the muscles?
Obviously if they raise too high then that would be bad, is there a way of telling if my RBC count is up without blood work?

 

[joeblow12345]

Hi Guys,

I have seen over the past 6months or so that CrossFit is really taking off as a training system in the UK! It is getting more and more popular and is getting a lot of interest from sportsmen (not so much body builders)and regular trainers who are swearing by the results.

As a sportsman I am planning a cycle for the beginning of 2012, I am planning on incorporating strength, power and crossfit training in an attempt to improve overall performance moderately rather than increase one facet of my game/physique dramatically.

Basically I want to put on (keep) 10-15lbs or so while dropping a small amount or maintaining body fat (currently around 12-14%)and gain strength, power, speed and maintain or gain endurance.

I know it is ambitious and a bit counter productive to try to improve everything but I want to see how successful it could be.

I was wondering if anyone has done a lot of crossfit while on cycle. I'm not saying done just crossfit, but a lot of it.

If so:
What cycle did you run?
How much crossfit did you do?
What sort of results did you get?
What would you run in the future?
Did you get any problems with calf and back pumps during WODs?

Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance guys.

Honestly you can only serve one master. You are either going to be great at one thing or mediocre at many things. The thing about juice is you have to tailor cycles to meet specific needs. You cant be big, strong, lean, fast, explosive, and have a high endurance at the same time. Thats why using aas while trying to excell at crossfit is tough. If one area improves the others invariably will suffer. For instance If you gain mass youll lose speed and endurance. I would stay natural and hit it hard, then if your goals change in the future you have the option to juice for that purpose.

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[Catman22]

Honestly you can only serve one master. You are either going to be great at one thing or mediocre at many things. The thing about juice is you have to tailor cycles to meet specific needs. You cant be big, strong, lean, fast, explosive, and have a high endurance at the same time. Thats why using aas while trying to excell at crossfit is tough. If one area improves the others invariably will suffer. For instance If you gain mass youll lose speed and endurance. I would stay natural and hit it hard, then if your goals change in the future you have the option to juice for that purpose.

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Thanks for the input Joe,

But I am not doing the cycle to get good or better at crossfit, crossfit is just the training I am including in my programming to improve as a sportsman!

I play rugby and it would undoubtedly be an advantage to me to increase size and strength, hopefully power too.
I just dont want my cardio or speed to suffer TOO much with these increases.

It is about the sport for me, not the crossfit.

I would happily increase my max lifts by 10kgs and lose a little bit of speed and endurance but what I'm saying is I would rather do that than put on 20kg on my max lifts and lose a ton of speed and endurance?

Cheers