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Completely lost libido 5 weeks into cycle!

Reecey1

Reecey1

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So I'm 5 weeks into my test 400 and deca cycle. It's my 3rd cycle. I'm 21. I'm doing 300mg a week of deca, 800mg a week of test! Was great at first but now I just have no sexual desire, and my dick don't even want to move. It's impossible to even get half hard! I have no interest whatsoever in anything! I'm just glad I don't have a girl round me ATM!

This problem is also depressing me causing terrible mood swings! I didn't think I'd get this at my age! I've heard sex drive never returns the same again too :-(. Have I fucked myself forever?
 
Are you using an AI or something to combat prolactin?


Also 3rd cycle at 21 years old. Pretty irresponsible

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I would get blood tests done. Your estrogen and prolactin are probably sky high.

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Okay. Will the doctor give me anything if they are found to be sky high?


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Some might but probably not.. you should be using an AI and caber/prami when using test and deca. What are your stats

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Without caber or an AI in there, it's no wonder you have no libido. If you don't change things soon, you will probably have gyno symptoms as well.

Pick up some caber (dostinex) and run it at 0.5mg twice per week, and get some liquid aromasin and run it at 25mg EOD

You can get them both here ----> www.ag-guys.com
 
your going to cause permanent damage... its irresponsible because you have no clue what your doing... your doing so much damage internally man... your running your test way too high... ridiculous... no ancillaries whatsoever... why would you run something like deca and not understand what you need with it? higher test means higher shutdown, higher estrogen, etc... doing that with nandrolones is a disaster... you need to stop and run pct and stop cycling period... i know you probably think you know what your doing and im sure your going to reply with some smart ass comment but im only trying to help you prevent some really bad things that your going to cause... you do what you want... i've been doing this for quite some time and i see this same scenario over and over and the result is always the same... its not a good one either... if you listen and do things right, you can prevent all these problems...
 
Okay I'll take your advice mate no smart ass comments ! Can't I just lower the test instead? And take what the guy above has told me to take instead? How is the damage permanent? Never regain sex drive again!?


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Reecey1 said:
Okay I'll take your advice mate no smart ass comments ! Can't I just lower the test instead? And take what the guy above has told me to take instead? How is the damage permanent? Never regain sex drive again!?


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i never said that... i would just be very worried with the abuse you are putting yourself under at such a young age, with no ancillaries and proper supports on top of it... your running extremely high doses of test at 21 years old, along with big time shutdown steroids like deca... your messing with hormone and test levels at your age when your body is growing naturally... your in the prime time right now... why would you want to risk things like having no sex drive in your early 20's? don't you like women?? why would you want to risk having low test and causing internal damage? it makes no sense man.. i will never understand this...

if your intent on staying on the cycle (which is not what i recommend in any way) then IMMEDIATELY you need caber and aromasin... caber at .5 mg e3d and aromasin at 12.5 mg eod... you also need an extremely strong pct and you need to get bloodwork done after your cycle as well to see where you are at... like i said, i just don't want you to hurt yourself anymore than you already have... you definitely need to lower your test A LOT and you need to also add hcgeenerate es to your cycle to help your libido and suppression... HcGenerate ES is specifically designed to keep on cycle suppression to a minimum, making your transition into pct much smoother, allowing for an optimal recovery and more keepable gains… It also testicular shrinkage and your libido strong on cycle...

HCGenerate ES


there's no need to exceed 500 mg of test but with deca, i would keep test lower... its all up to you but you need to think long and hard about what your doing
 
Okay I'm going to that site now to get some bits. I'm in the UK do they post here? Are the products also trusted to use?? I thought that being at a young age I would be able to recover quickly! I will lower test to 600mg that will make the cycle 1/2 deca and test.
I will also get blood work done! As for women, I am no good with the ladies. So I just do my own thing. Hit gym, get on the Roids and try and look a mean machine. But this has now come with a consequence!


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OMG the crap in these replies... bro science at its best.

You need to do the following, your getting to much testosterone bound up by SHBG, so first you need proviron 100mg ed for 5 days then drop to 50mg. This will free up test, and give you a libido increase.

Second, the deca is faster acting than the test, so its negative affects on libido are noticeable first. You are running a low dose of deca, you do not need all the bunk suggested to combat prolactin, all you have is an imbalance in your hormonal ratios.
Trust me just use the proviron and I guarantee you will see a change after 4 days, feel free to PM me and I will help out with anything you need.

Kindest regards RS
 
Russianstar said:
OMG the crap in these replies... bro science at its best.

You need to do the following, your getting to much testosterone bound up by SHBG, so first you need proviron 100mg ed for 5 days then drop to 50mg. This will free up test, and give you a libido increase.

Second, the deca is faster acting than the test, so its negative affects on libido are noticeable first. You are running a low dose of deca, you do not need all the bunk suggested to combat prolactin, all you have is an imbalance in your hormonal ratios.
Trust me just use the proviron and I guarantee you will see a change after 4 days, feel free to PM me and I will help out with anything you need.

Kindest regards RS
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how is deca faster acting .. DECA is an ester, the test he is using is E. so you think that E is slower acting than decaonate? WRONG .. decaonate has a 15 day half life, the only main ester that is slower acting is the U ester. so I guess this means your entire theory is out the window, so lets hear another one

low dose of deca at 300mg? for a guy the OP's size that is a moderate dose, its not low.

bottom line is this.. this kid is 21.. he is young and anytime you mess with hormoens you run the risk of screwing your body up. 2. nandrolone is an anti-fertility drug, hence its like neutering yourself.. he should of never touched it to begin with, must less at 21 and it being his first cycle and having no clue what he is doing
 
Obviously you dont know that the action of nandrolone despite it being a longer acting ester displays its affects far quicker.. not in its a.r binding, or its half life.
In its ability to cause increased progestenic affects.

This has nothing to do with a half life.

And 300mg of deca is a low dose.
500mg is moderate
800mg is high.

And obviously variables in between.

The reason why he is suffering with libido is increased estrogen levels.. increased prolactin and his test ratio is not yet high enough to counter act those problems.
Dht conversion on this cycle will be low as deca raises shbg very quickly
Hence why i suggested proviron.
 
Just as a point.. take deca on its own for 2 weeks. 300mg a day.
Your libido will suffer big time. Its because of its method of action.

Run test for 2 weeks at the same amount.. you will hardly notice a change.

Deca affects shbg like no other.. and people think the only way to counter act that is fill yourself up with prami or dostinex.
2 very dangerous drugs that are very rarely needed.
Especially at such a mild dose as you dont like the term low.
 
Russianstar said:
Obviously you dont know that the action of nandrolone despite it being a longer acting ester displays its affects far quicker.. not in its a.r binding, or its half life.
In its ability to cause increased progestenic affects.

This has nothing to do with a half life.

okay so you just admitted he should be running an AI or perhaps some caber too to combat progestenic affects. nandrolone aromatizes half as much as test.. that is a fact. but when you stack 2 aromatizing compounds you must run an AI. didn't you claim earlier that it was bro science? and now you make a point that re-inforces whats been said. WTF?

And 300mg of deca is a low dose.
500mg is moderate
800mg is high.
I ran deca at 300mg and 400mg 2 different cycles and my libido was through the roof stacked with 500mg test. the difference is I actually knew what I was doing and didn't just run shit without having ancillaries on hand.

who the fuck runs deca at 800mg's? that is ridiculous. this kid is 21 fucking years old and you think he should run it that high, or you are comparing his advancement to a pro who runs ridiculous dosages?


The reason why he is suffering with libido is increased estrogen levels.. increased prolactin and his test ratio is not yet high enough to counter act those problems.

yeah which is exactly what was said earlier in the thread which you referred to as broscience.. this guy is not running any ancillaries.

Dht conversion on this cycle will be low as deca raises shbg very quickly
Hence why i suggested proviron
proviron will not save him when he comes off and crashes, proviron is not a pct. this kid is in deep shit when he comes off mark my words .. nandrolone should never be run as a first cycle. or a 2nd, or a 3rd. and your posts make it seem like its okay to run what you think its a 'low dose'.. its not a low dose at all. any amount of nandrolone even 50mg a week should not be run for a newb. you gotta remember who you are advising, now you are encouraging him and suggesting yet another compound to be added. that makes no sense, lets just stack more stuff 3 compounds, no 4 compounds.. no 5 compounds.. the kid is 21 years old!! he needs to just flush it down the toilet and not run hormones for another year
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in bold and yes I get that proviron can help combat the hormonal imbalances, but I am not a fan of stacking more shit or newbs running multiple compounds .. they need to learn the ABC's first..

the kid has a nice frame in his avi and he is wasting a solid base taking advice from who knows who. all he had to do was stay natty for a couple more years then run primo or a little test. and cycle smartly. he didn't have to fuck with deca
 
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Would anyone advise dropping the deca and using dbol instead??


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Your up to your eyeballs in a cycle you have no business doing in the first place. Your E levels are elevated which is at least part of your problem and you want to drop deca (which doesnt really convert to E) and add in something that does?

What you need to do is just stop your cycle and do some damn homework before you screw yourself up.
 
I'm getting some proviron to sort me out. I never knew dbol turns to estrogen! I took that last year and had no problems on it. Had great results too! I don't really think I should come off cycle seeing as I'm half way through it now. I just want something that helps my loss of libido. I can understand if I was 18 and taking deca but I think 21 is fine. No different at 21 as you would at 25. I'm 22 next month too. Haven't just turn 21.


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Its not your age, its your knowledge and preparation.
 
It's only 3 years. Everyone thinks they know everything at 21. There is a hell of a lot of maturing to do between 21 and 25 .Your still not mentally mature and this post proves it..

You should stop the cycle and stop making the matter even worse for yourself.. maybe do some research next time. Your just compounding the issue..

There is a reason we don't give guys under 21 steroid advice.. they don't listen and think they know everything




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It sounds dangerous. Explore flexibility, mobility & skill acquisition through sport or martial art for a few years as well as a well laid out strength/weights program. When you are proficient at controlling your body, have a good balance of everything then do some gear.

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Ah man I'm just not interested in that though. I want to get big and have a presence about me. Yoga, martial arts just doesn't interest me. I done boxing on and off for a few years. I just get fed up of the dedication them sports involve. The level of fitness you have to have is crazy. With the gym the dedication you need is to just get down to the gym firstly then lift hard! My dedication lies within the gym. I have a great diet. Good sleeping pattern I am I'm good shape and feel healthy. Just my libido now. I have taken test 3 times now and never had an issue. It's the deca that is causing my problems I know it!


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I'm by no means an expert and have just started my first cycle (test only). I originally had in my head that I was going to run test and deca, but I held off putting something in my body that could potentially mess me up for life so I could gain more knowledge and do as much research as I could to feel comfortable.

After months of research and countless hours of reading I decided that test is all I needed for a first cycle. Especially at my age - 22. Deca is very suppressive and if you aren't clued up on it, its just not worth the risk.

Im still pretty young to be doing my FIRST cycle, but your now on your third and are nearly a year younger than me. In my opinion and I'm sure many others you started far to early.
 
Wasn't the advice to most newbs to wait until after 26 to use gear.

Anyways, since you are flying solo and getting advice from multiple people with no clear spelled out cycle w/schedule then I would listen to dylangemeli.

PM him or another moderator about starting PCT. Get on that asap.
Then learn about what you need to do going forward. I strongly advise you to not start adding things and experimenting with yourself now that you are having bad sides. Just go PCT (get someone to give you an explicit plan).

Tert
 
I would stay away from the proviron. That's not the answer to your problems by any means. Adding another steroid you don't need isn't solving anything. You need to get your estrogen down with an AI and run some Caber. I have already stated dosages, so I'm not going to repeat myself again
 
Why is this difficult. Everyone has already said your estrogen is fucked.

You need a AI, and a Dopamine agonist (aromisin and caber). There are many they will all work.

If you want to be stubborn and continue running the cycle at least do that, or just stop and go into PCT. Stupid choice to run deca if you plan to recover.
 
If you want I can give you a thesis and a paper with studies to help you make the right decision.

I said he could pm me to help Dylan.. no need to edit my posts mate, I never edited any of yours on n2bm.


I learned a long time ago, you just cant beat bro-science.. throw everything at a problem, even though you don't know the science behind what your body is telling you. I love hearing all their qualifications.
 
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^ Coming from the guy claiming decanoate is faster acting than enanthate? LOL!
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Exactly I say something based on how quick it affects the hormonal balance, sadly small minded people see the ester its attached to and think im talking about half lives and how long people think something kicks in based on A.R binding.
I didn't want to do this but hey... it will go over your heads.
Nandralone acts in a very unusual way to other steroids, it has pronounced neural affects which can cause depression anxiety and loss of libido very quickly because of its affects on affinity of the neurosteroids PS-3 and DHEAS at the sigma-1 site
Part of the reason for this is so to with steroid binding, deca can exert its affects by binding to other receptors, in this case the stigma-1 site and dhea site.
We all know what lowered DHEA can do, and how it affects us when its very low, Deca stops DHEA from working through binding to its target receptor.
This affects libido, in studies it takes less than 2 weeks to cause a very detrimental affect on neurosteroid receptors.
Dopamine receptors are another one it targets because it binds very quickly, and instead of being available, Nandrolone gets tied up with lots of hormonal changes in the system very quickly.
It has nothing to do with esters, but its affinity but you wont get that will you?

Expression of the dopamine D1-receptor transcript was elevated in the amygdala and decreased in the hippocampus while the transcript level of the dopamine D4-receptor was increased in the nucleus accumbens, This change especialy in the nucleus accumbens can cause a loss of pleasure, joy, stimulation and impulse, greatly affecting libido.

Simple solution is to prevent it doing these things, not by unbalancing your dopamine levels by taking Bromo or dostinex, and no need for arimidex with the doses your using, that will only lower estrogen which so you guys know doesn't do a great deal with deca bloat, deca acts itself as a progestin, run a deca only cycle and run a.dex, you will still get bloat, because its binding, unbind it and you wont need to worry.


Enjoy, that was for free x

Yawn.
 
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21 and using Deca is a pretty big mistake man


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Russianstar said:
and no need for arimidex with the doses your using, that will only lower estrogen which so you guys know doesn't do a great deal with deca bloat,
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I cant speak for anyone else but my reasoning behind using an AI are to keep E in the high normal range. Without an AI on his dose of test his E will be very elevated and there is no reason for it. On the contrary we see posts almost daily who read comments like your (ie thats its not needed), dont take an AI and now are crying they have gyno.

At the end of the day your on a cycle for what 12 weeks? Who the fuck cares about a little bloat? Its the feminization we want to control, controlling bloat, if its even an issue, is a side effect of trying to cycle safely by keeping what you can inline.

Personally I have no idea why this thread is still droning on, the kid had no business cycling since he is clearly clueless about the potential consequences and what to do about them.
 
I didn;t read the whole thread but the answer seems obvious. Don't do deca. What's so difficult to understand?

Get some Mucana puriens, UNLEASHED and PF POSTCYCLE and double dose for 2 weeks. You'll feel better.
 
Not doing deca would be best, from week 6 on an anti estrogen would be of great benefit as the above posts state.

I am sorry if I stood on anyones toes, The guys here have your best interest at heart, we all have different opinions.

Not doing deca is your best option.
 
Zyglamail said:
I cant speak for anyone else but my reasoning behind using an AI are to keep E in the high normal range. Without an AI on his dose of test his E will be very elevated and there is no reason for it. On the contrary we see posts almost daily who read comments like your (ie thats its not needed), dont take an AI and now are crying they have gyno.

At the end of the day your on a cycle for what 12 weeks? Who the fuck cares about a little bloat? Its the feminization we want to control, controlling bloat, if its even an issue, is a side effect of trying to cycle safely by keeping what you can inline.

Personally I have no idea why this thread is still droning on, the kid had no business cycling since he is clearly clueless about the potential consequences and what to do about them.
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I can agree with this.
But if he does carry on, he has been given the best advice I think.
 
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