Coming off after more than a year on?

[hardrock]

I have been on HRT for over a year now. I maintain at 250mg/week test cyp/prop mix and bump it up to 1000 for 12 weeks at a time every now and then. I have been cruising at 250/wk for 4 months or so now and I need to come off for blood tests. My current HRT clinic says I need to come off for test while others say I can stay on at a low dose forever if I want. Either way if I switch I need to have new blood tests. I have been off for 2 weeks and have my tests next week for a total of 3 weeks off. I will start back to 250 mg/wk immediately following my blood tests.

My question is how will this affect me. Being off for 3 weeks. Strength wise, emotional, libido, mass? I feel nothing thus far and am not using any post cycle as I want my levels low as possible for the tests. They were very low for my last one over a year ago and I had been off for like 6 months with post cycle

Thoughts?

 

[swordfish151]

I have been on HRT for over a year now. I maintain at 250mg/week test cyp/prop mix and bump it up to 1000 for 12 weeks at a time every now and then. I have been cruising at 250/wk for 4 months or so now and I need to come off for blood tests. My current HRT clinic says I need to come off for test while others say I can stay on at a low dose forever if I want. Either way if I switch I need to have new blood tests. I have been off for 2 weeks and have my tests next week for a total of 3 weeks off. I will start back to 250 mg/wk immediately following my blood tests.

My question is how will this affect me. Being off for 3 weeks. Strength wise, emotional, libido, mass? I feel nothing thus far and am not using any post cycle as I want my levels low as possible for the tests. They were very low for my last one over a year ago and I had been off for like 6 months with post cycle

Thoughts?

I would think that a 3 week off schedule wont do much, since your on HRT and going to jump on it right after... Hey i saw your thread on the C&C i beleive last week or a couple days ago..about your brother (that was you right) sorry to hear you loss.

 

[hardrock]

I would think that a 3 week off schedule wont do much, since your on HRT and going to jump on it right after... Hey i saw your thread on the C&C i beleive last week or a couple days ago..about your brother (that was you right) sorry to hear you loss.

I figured about the same as far as coming off. I usually just start to feel it after week 3 I believe. Don't remember tho since it's been so long since I've come off.

And yes that was me about my brother. Thank you.

 

[Indy]

I figured about the same as far as coming off. I usually just start to feel it after week 3 I believe. Don't remember tho since it's been so long since I've come off.

And yes that was me about my brother. Thank you.

last time I went off it was about 3 weeks, you're right on the money then lethargy and depression set in BIGTIME, I fear going off again.

 

[ortiz34]

I know you do alot of cycles Indy, are you also on HRT?

 

[Its All Genetics]

if ur running cyp its gunna still be hittin with u at least 2 weeks after ur last inject.... its usually around week 3 that i starte getting depressed and libido crash when i come off.... but right when it kicks in ull be going back on so its all good

 

[thelion2005]

I have been on HRT for over a year now. I maintain at 250mg/week test cyp/prop mix and bump it up to 1000 for 12 weeks at a time every now and then. I have been cruising at 250/wk for 4 months or so now and I need to come off for blood tests. My current HRT clinic says I need to come off for test while others say I can stay on at a low dose forever if I want. Either way if I switch I need to have new blood tests. I have been off for 2 weeks and have my tests next week for a total of 3 weeks off. I will start back to 250 mg/wk immediately following my blood tests.

My question is how will this affect me. Being off for 3 weeks. Strength wise, emotional, libido, mass? I feel nothing thus far and am not using any post cycle as I want my levels low as possible for the tests. They were very low for my last one over a year ago and I had been off for like 6 months with post cycle

Thoughts?

Have to come off a HRT program for the blood testing? hardrock, this is confusing.

HRT is forever. IMO and HRT experience, you want to know what your levels are during supplementation. Coming off sends you into a dive and reveals nothing of value.

I have testing done every 4 quarters and had my last one last Monday. I'm doing test, HGH, ami, DHEA, DIM and others all the time. The results of the test will help the Doc fine tune my diet and supplements.

What don't I understand?

 

[21gun]

I have been on HRT for over a year now. I maintain at 250mg/week test cyp/prop mix and bump it up to 1000 for 12 weeks at a time every now and then. I have been cruising at 250/wk for 4 months or so now and I need to come off for blood tests. My current HRT clinic says I need to come off for test while others say I can stay on at a low dose forever if I want. Either way if I switch I need to have new blood tests. I have been off for 2 weeks and have my tests next week for a total of 3 weeks off. I will start back to 250 mg/wk immediately following my blood tests.

My question is how will this affect me. Being off for 3 weeks. Strength wise, emotional, libido, mass? I feel nothing thus far and am not using any post cycle as I want my levels low as possible for the tests. They were very low for my last one over a year ago and I had been off for like 6 months with post cycle

Thoughts?

Think of your body as a finely tuned top-fueled dragster. When everything is pumping..flowing..working together, it can't be beat. But, you can't run it full throttle for very long, or the engine will blow. Sometimes, you gotta shut the car down for a while for neccessary repairs...just like your body. Take a couple of months off, let the body heal for a while, then get back into the attack mode full-throttle!

 

[hardrock]

Have to come off a HRT program for the blood testing? hardrock, this is confusing.

HRT is forever. IMO and HRT experience, you want to know what your levels are during supplementation. Coming off sends you into a dive and reveals nothing of value.

What don't I understand?

That's what I'm saying, and that's why I'm going to a new clinic. Just gotta find a good one. He says I should give my body a chance to recover its natural test levels. Here's what my natural test levels were when I had them checked a year ago-

Total- 282 ng/dl range 260-1000

Free- 63.1 pg/ml range- 50-210

What's there to recover? I have shit naturally.

21gun- I hear what you're saying, but I'm not running full throttle. I'm running 250mg/wk. That probably puts me just above the high natural limit.

There is nothing to recover. All I have to look forward to by coming off is a hard crash.

I'm having a physical and blood work done on Wednesday. If anyone can recommend a good HRT clinic I'd be more than happy.

 

[phatrr]

pm sent.

Good luck with this. I know how hard it can suck.

 

[c gheller]

Hardrock, Do you take any AI's or Nolva while on your maintenance dose of 250mg per week? Also did you grow much during the whole year you were on. I am asking because i am in a very similar situation and my Doc has prescribed me 250mg per week, im reluctant at the thought of never coming off and unsure what ancillaries id need to run at that dose.

 

[jgrow]

Running Test that low will actually stimulate the HPTA and according to my sources you could in fact stay "ON" forever!

 

[JKurz1]

last time I went off it was about 3 weeks, you're right on the money then lethargy and depression set in BIGTIME, I fear going off again.

you on a low dose now bro? Hows the diet? bulking? gains?

 

[Shaggy69]

Running Test that low will actually stimulate the HPTA and according to my sources you could in fact stay "ON" forever!

I don't think this is the case bro...

Weekly shots of test of only 50mg doses shut you down pretty hard.

 

[hardrock]

Hardrock, Do you take any AI's or Nolva while on your maintenance dose of 250mg per week? Also did you grow much during the whole year you were on. I am asking because i am in a very similar situation and my Doc has prescribed me 250mg per week, im reluctant at the thought of never coming off and unsure what ancillaries id need to run at that dose.

I was taking AI's at first, but I don't need them at such a low dose. Shit even at 1000mg/wk I was only taking 1/2 ml liq every 3 days.

Did I grow? At first yes, but then I started slacking in my training and diet after I got hurt. Need to get back in the gym at least 3x a week and eat better. I was hardly even eating or training and didn't lose a thing.

 

[c gheller]

Thanks Hardrock, interesting info Bro. So you think if your diet and training were in check you would have kept growing.

 

[Ulter]

I don't think you're levels will be low enough to worry about crashing with only 3 weeks off. In fact I would guess your test levels will come out pretty high. I suggest you have dbol around just in case though. If you start to crash you use dbol when you get up in the morning and that will stop the crash very quickly. A crash usually start in the 5th or 6th week off though.

 

[hardrock]

Thanks Hardrock, interesting info Bro. So you think if your diet and training were in check you would have kept growing.

definately. Maybe not if I kept at the same amount permanently. I run 250 mg/wk to maintain for a few months and every so often i'll bump it up and maybe throw in another compound for 8-12 weeks to make some good gains. Then back to 250 to maintain. Was working very well.

Would I consistantly gain on 250/wk? I doubt it. I mean it's gotta come to a point where you can't gain anymore on a certain dose. Look at how much pros use to make very little gains each year. I'm pretty sure they never come off. The 250 basicaly lets me rest a bit and keep my gains.

 

[hardrock]

I don't think you're levels will be low enough to worry about crashing with only 3 weeks off. In fact I would guess your test levels will come out pretty high. I suggest you have dbol around just in case though. If you start to crash you use dbol when you get up in the morning and that will stop the crash very quickly. A crash usually start in the 5th or 6th week off though.

Good idea. I'm picking up some dbol next week anyway.

You think my test levels will come out high after 3 weeks off only 250 mg of cyp/prop(200cyp/50prop) a week?

 

[Ulter]

Yes I think you'll still be high. TC elimination is 4-6 weeks

 

[c gheller]

Hardrock.Thanks for the info Bro, as i said im in a similar situation in regards to HRT @250mg per week. As i said im a bit worried about always being on and the long term health implications as i have two small children i need to be fit and healthy for. Does that worry you ....health implications?
You certainly did some growing at some point cause if thats you in the pic youre certainly a big boy. Good work

 

[hardrock]

Hardrock.Thanks for the info Bro, as i said im in a similar situation in regards to HRT @250mg per week. As i said im a bit worried about always being on and the long term health implications as i have two small children i need to be fit and healthy for. Does that worry you ....health implications?
You certainly did some growing at some point cause if thats you in the pic youre certainly a big boy. Good work

Not to worried about long term. If and when I decide to have kids I'll stop for the time being. Maybe start again after. If I show any signs of long term side effects I'll stop, but until then I don't ever plan on stopping. At least until I'm 60 or so. After that who cares anyway? Just my point of view.

 

[c gheller]

Cool Bro. Yeah i was thinking should i go on the HRT, since i have 2 kids and not planning any more and i feel like complete shit when off due to low test levels, maybe i should adopt your approach.