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Clomid is a mixed estrogen agonist/antagonist. It is mostly used to stimulate ovulation in females as a fertility pill.
Given to men it will raise natural testosterone production, even if one has not been on steroids. Clomid given to healthly men with normal test levels raises test output by 50-300%.
Some natural bodybuilders have used clomid alone for 6-8 weeks with no sides and some improvement in gain.
Clomid is given to high level aerobic athletes that have suffered from training induced hypogonadolism. The results are very positive.
Clomid bind to estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus . This reduces the affect of estrogen at the hypothalamus and thus the hypothalamus puts out more GnRH, the hormone that tells the pituitary to realsease LH and FSH.
So clomid acts by BLOCKING the affects of estrogen at the hypothalamus BUT it also ACTS as an estrogen at the liver and MAY be helpful in maintaining a decent lipid profile, as long as steroid doseage is moderate.
Clomid will block the affects of estrogen at the breast and prevent gyno.
Clomid often will also have an estrogenic affect on the mood resulting in a calming affect, but in a few men it will cause mood swings leading to depressive feelings. I would like to point out that this is quite rare. Most of the mood problem one may expereince post cycle is a result of lowered androgen levels.
BTW....Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is almost an identicle drug and will work in the same way as clomid.
The hypothalamus not only senses androgen output by the testes(testosterone) it also sences estrogen form the aromatization of testosterone. BOTH testosterone and estrogen are envolved in balancing out the amount of GnRH release form the hypothalamus. Too much of either hormone will inhibit natural test production. So in the body there is a constant feedback loop. Not enough androgen and estrogen senced by the hypothalamus causes an increase in GnRH release which in turn tells the pituitary to release more LH and FSH and this tells the testes to produce more testosterone......too much estrogen and testosterone(or any other androgen) will cause a decrease in GnRh release and thus less LH/FSH is relleased from the pituitary and less testosterone is produced.
WHY
Steroid users use clomid at the end of a cycle and after androgen levels have dropped to near normal in order to stimulate higher amounts of GnRh , and LH release. This gets the testes back on the job quickly. We want test production to resume as fast as possible so we can keep more of the muscle gain from a cycle.
PLEASE NOTE: HCG use is also recommended during a cycle to prevent testicular atrophy so clomid will work better. Please see my post on HCG.
HOW
Clomid should be used after androgen levels have dropped to near normal or IT WILL NOT WORK. Some think clomid will help during a cycle but this is a big myth as it is the high levels of androgen that cause suppression during a cycle and not just an elevated estrogen level that results from taking aromatizable gear.
You need to consider two things when planning clomid therapy. #1. The half life of the hormone ester you took, or the time it takes for half of the hormone to clear.
#2. You need to factor in the dose of gear taken.
So Tetosterone in a Cyp or enanthate ester has a half life of about a week. So the common clomid useage starts after two weeks. After two weeks a gram of test cyp will be reduced to about 250 mg and low enough for clomid to start to become affective. BUT if you take 1500mg of test per week then two weeks isn't going to be enough time for androgen levels to drop to the point where clomid is affective.
IF you have taken say 750 of test, 500 of EQ and 400 of deca then androgen levels will not have dropped enough after two weeks to warrent clomid use for two reasons...total dose is higher and both deca and EQ are in a longer acting ester than test cyp.
HEW! After all that said...there is notning wrong with taking clomid too soon as there is no penalty in regard to muscle loss BUT there is a dear penalty to suffer if clomid is started too late..MORE GAINS LOST.
GENERAL GUIDLINES for starting clomid therapy
Clomid has a long half life so you don't need to split up the dose throughout the day except on day one were a loading dose is taken.
Clomid should be taken with food as this helps absorbtion.
Start clomid on day one at about 200-300 mg in divided doses. Then after that take it at 100mg/day for a week and then 50mg for another two or perhaps three weeks . Most have had great results from taking it at 300 on day one and then 50 per day for three-four weeks though.
Now with nandrolone(deca) always take clomid for at least 4 full weeks as nandrolone is often more difficult to recover from.
At any rate take clomid until you feel your sex drive is 100%
Clomid can be safely taken by most men for many weeks with no problems.
SIDES
Clomid can cause blurred vsion in a few men so if that happen then stop taking it and try nolva as it may not cause this problem.
Clomid can cause some acne but nothing like an androgen cycle. Mood swings are uncommon from clomid but can happen in some.
All orals clear very rapidly with half lives of hours and not days.
The same can be said of hormones in PURE SUSPENSION, with no ester molecules to dealy release ie: test suspension.
So with orals you can start clomid the next morning after your last pm dose.
With Deca.....clomid after three weeks off.
EQ....... Clomid after 18 days off
Tren acetate....clomid 3 days after stopping
Sust....clomid after three weeks off
Cyp and enanthate......clomid after two weeks off
Test prop....clomid 3 days after last shot
Test suspension 8 hours after last shot and then same for all the orals
winny taken IM....clomid after about 5 days off. NOTE: IM winny is not in ester BUT the crystal like deposit takes almost a week to clear.
Good luck and lets keep REAL GAINS
RG
Clomid is a mixed estrogen agonist/antagonist. It is mostly used to stimulate ovulation in females as a fertility pill.
Given to men it will raise natural testosterone production, even if one has not been on steroids. Clomid given to healthly men with normal test levels raises test output by 50-300%.
Some natural bodybuilders have used clomid alone for 6-8 weeks with no sides and some improvement in gain.
Clomid is given to high level aerobic athletes that have suffered from training induced hypogonadolism. The results are very positive.
Clomid bind to estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus . This reduces the affect of estrogen at the hypothalamus and thus the hypothalamus puts out more GnRH, the hormone that tells the pituitary to realsease LH and FSH.
So clomid acts by BLOCKING the affects of estrogen at the hypothalamus BUT it also ACTS as an estrogen at the liver and MAY be helpful in maintaining a decent lipid profile, as long as steroid doseage is moderate.
Clomid will block the affects of estrogen at the breast and prevent gyno.
Clomid often will also have an estrogenic affect on the mood resulting in a calming affect, but in a few men it will cause mood swings leading to depressive feelings. I would like to point out that this is quite rare. Most of the mood problem one may expereince post cycle is a result of lowered androgen levels.
BTW....Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is almost an identicle drug and will work in the same way as clomid.
The hypothalamus not only senses androgen output by the testes(testosterone) it also sences estrogen form the aromatization of testosterone. BOTH testosterone and estrogen are envolved in balancing out the amount of GnRH release form the hypothalamus. Too much of either hormone will inhibit natural test production. So in the body there is a constant feedback loop. Not enough androgen and estrogen senced by the hypothalamus causes an increase in GnRH release which in turn tells the pituitary to release more LH and FSH and this tells the testes to produce more testosterone......too much estrogen and testosterone(or any other androgen) will cause a decrease in GnRh release and thus less LH/FSH is relleased from the pituitary and less testosterone is produced.
WHY
Steroid users use clomid at the end of a cycle and after androgen levels have dropped to near normal in order to stimulate higher amounts of GnRh , and LH release. This gets the testes back on the job quickly. We want test production to resume as fast as possible so we can keep more of the muscle gain from a cycle.
PLEASE NOTE: HCG use is also recommended during a cycle to prevent testicular atrophy so clomid will work better. Please see my post on HCG.
HOW
Clomid should be used after androgen levels have dropped to near normal or IT WILL NOT WORK. Some think clomid will help during a cycle but this is a big myth as it is the high levels of androgen that cause suppression during a cycle and not just an elevated estrogen level that results from taking aromatizable gear.
You need to consider two things when planning clomid therapy. #1. The half life of the hormone ester you took, or the time it takes for half of the hormone to clear.
#2. You need to factor in the dose of gear taken.
So Tetosterone in a Cyp or enanthate ester has a half life of about a week. So the common clomid useage starts after two weeks. After two weeks a gram of test cyp will be reduced to about 250 mg and low enough for clomid to start to become affective. BUT if you take 1500mg of test per week then two weeks isn't going to be enough time for androgen levels to drop to the point where clomid is affective.
IF you have taken say 750 of test, 500 of EQ and 400 of deca then androgen levels will not have dropped enough after two weeks to warrent clomid use for two reasons...total dose is higher and both deca and EQ are in a longer acting ester than test cyp.
HEW! After all that said...there is notning wrong with taking clomid too soon as there is no penalty in regard to muscle loss BUT there is a dear penalty to suffer if clomid is started too late..MORE GAINS LOST.
GENERAL GUIDLINES for starting clomid therapy
Clomid has a long half life so you don't need to split up the dose throughout the day except on day one were a loading dose is taken.
Clomid should be taken with food as this helps absorbtion.
Start clomid on day one at about 200-300 mg in divided doses. Then after that take it at 100mg/day for a week and then 50mg for another two or perhaps three weeks . Most have had great results from taking it at 300 on day one and then 50 per day for three-four weeks though.
Now with nandrolone(deca) always take clomid for at least 4 full weeks as nandrolone is often more difficult to recover from.
At any rate take clomid until you feel your sex drive is 100%
Clomid can be safely taken by most men for many weeks with no problems.
SIDES
Clomid can cause blurred vsion in a few men so if that happen then stop taking it and try nolva as it may not cause this problem.
Clomid can cause some acne but nothing like an androgen cycle. Mood swings are uncommon from clomid but can happen in some.
All orals clear very rapidly with half lives of hours and not days.
The same can be said of hormones in PURE SUSPENSION, with no ester molecules to dealy release ie: test suspension.
So with orals you can start clomid the next morning after your last pm dose.
With Deca.....clomid after three weeks off.
EQ....... Clomid after 18 days off
Tren acetate....clomid 3 days after stopping
Sust....clomid after three weeks off
Cyp and enanthate......clomid after two weeks off
Test prop....clomid 3 days after last shot
Test suspension 8 hours after last shot and then same for all the orals
winny taken IM....clomid after about 5 days off. NOTE: IM winny is not in ester BUT the crystal like deposit takes almost a week to clear.
Good luck and lets keep REAL GAINS
RG
