Cholesterol

[caper2860]

Hey,
So I posted recently about starting up a cycle. I'm 36 years old and have not used AAS in 10 years. I had planned on running test cyp with an oral Kickstarter.

The reality is I genetically have bad cholesterol runs in my family and is not controllable with diet. I will eventually have to take medication when I'm older according to physician. Diet does influence my levels but not enough to ever be in normal range .

I realized I was just fooling my self considering any oral and have decided to drop the oral and run a test cyp only cycle. I realize that test cyp can also adversely effect cholesterol Changes in lipoprotein-lipid levels in normal men following administration of increasing doses of testosterone cypionate. - PubMed - NCBI
But I'm pretty set on running it. I was wondering if any support supplements could help negate any of the adverse effects of test on my cholesterol levels ?

Thanks

 

[big_boy_1]

Statins have an overall negative effect on health.

You can get tested to see if you have low test.
If so HCG (or HMG also) both rises natural test and lowers cholesterol a bit as cholesterol is the raw material for all steroids made in the body.

BTW is is NOT proven that high cholesterol causes arterial plaque by itself.

 

[caper2860]

I don't have low test or any symptoms of low test. And yes cholesterol is only a factor. Not really what I was asking but thanks . Gonna run test cyp was curious if liv supports would be beneficial .

 

[caper2860]

My natural test levels are normal. Curious about n2guard or other supports. I suppose they would be beneficial on or off cycle

 

[polarbear1134]

Garlic tabs from Kroger work very well for cholesterol and are dirt cheap. One thing the ones that smell bad tend to also work better as the process to remove the smell also lessens the potency.

 

[caper2860]

Awesome thanks will look into those.

 

[zmyj88]

Please god take me before I have to deal with arterial plaque and sht

 

[caper2860]

Pretty much feeling the same lol

 

[caper2860]

Think the girlfriend will kill me on garlic supplements . She always complains about garlic poppers at the gym. Can Smell them a mile away .

I wonder if milk thistle influences cholesterol

 

[caper2860]

Regardless, I'm pumped ! Gonna running 12 Weeker of cyp 500 mg a week. Ordering tomorrow whoot whoot ! After ten years pretty excited for even test only cycle .

 

[polarbear1134]

Just take the garlic tabs 5 seconds before each meal. The meal will kill it's smell. Remember you swallow the tabs you don't chew them.

 

[caper2860]

Lol ok sounds good I just mean she can smell garlic from the people's sweat lol

 

[big_boy_1]

High testosterone levels (good natural levels within the normal range not exaggerate levels bodybuilders use)increases HDL cholesterol.

Relation of serum testosterone levels to high density lipoprotein cholesterol and other characteristics in men.
In addition, levels of testosterone were related positively to alcohol consumption and cigarette smoking and negatively to age, Quetelet index, and use of beta-blockers.
Relation of serum testosterone levels to high density lipoprotein cholesterol and other characteristics in men. - PubMed - NCBI

Plasma testosterone, high density lipoprotein cholesterol and other lipoprotein fractions.
The results indicate that testosterone levels (both free and total) were positively correlated with high density lipoprotein cholesterol (r = +0.24, p less than 0.01) and negatively correlated with triglycerides and very low density lipoprotein cholesterol.
Plasma testosterone, high density lipoprotein cholesterol and other lipoprotein fractions. - PubMed - NCBI

 

[caper2860]

Yep that's great article . I'm interested in exaggerated levels not normal range test. My current cholestrol Levels are unrelated to my normal testosterone levels when off cycle . My cholesterol levels are bad as a result of a genetic factor influencing how my liver produces cholesterol. I'm really not sure what the random unrelated research is for ?

 

[caper2860]

Interesting and I appreciate the time just was more curious about my current situation .

 

[caper2860]

Unfortunately in my case even with good natural test levels and specialized diet, I extremely low HDl .. My dad and sister have the exact same problem and are extremely healthy. I'm lucky my sister has a masters degree in science and nutrition and is extremely healthy . Our Levels can be influenced some with our diet but not significantly.