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used2juice

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Not sure if this is old news or not, but G*k* pharm from china has been busted by our own DEA according to a couple well known guys over there, so several overseas powder guys are now refusing to ship to the USA. Kind of a bummer.
 
sparetire said:
hope that doesn't effect my uglab....ugh..

I think it's gonna effect a lot of ug labs. If powder suppliers aren't willing to ship to the USA then there aren't gonna be any ug labs left. Not sure how long this will last, but it could impact a lot of guys.
 
CO B-man said:
Fairly old news but some probably have not heard it yet

Just curious, I like to stay pretty on top of things. How long ago did this happen? Why is it that just today, 3 powder suppliers began to refuse to ship to USA whereas a couple days ago all were okay with it? Any info you could give would help me and I'm sure others. :)
 
used2juice said:
Not sure if this is old news or not, but G*k* pharm from china has been busted by our own DEA according to a couple well known guys over there, so several overseas powder guys are now refusing to ship to the USA. Kind of a bummer.
old news and he wasn't anything special
 
DBBT said:
old news and he wasn't anything special

Yeah, I never meant to imply that if I did. What IS special though, is the fact that at least 3 other guys I know of have refused to send packs to the USA right now. It makes me think something larger might be going on.
 
used2juice said:
Just curious, I like to stay pretty on top of things. How long ago did this happen? Why is it that just today, 3 powder suppliers began to refuse to ship to USA whereas a couple days ago all were okay with it? Any info you could give would help me and I'm sure others. :)

I dont know because I dont order illegal things from anywhere but I would
say refer to your initial post. Re-shipping siezed packages gets expensive. n but from what people say there are still people out there shipping
 
used2juice said:
Yeah, I'm sorry, I wasn't even talking about steroids. I was talking about COKE. :p
oh in that case...

when my coke comes in they gotta use the scale the weigh the whales with.
 
this year the fda banned the importing of powders from china. Up until this time the us compounding pharms were importing from china , now they are locked into powders made in USA, Its going to jack the prices up. the hrt guys are going to get reamed.
 
metalgodz1 said:
this year the fda banned the importing of powders from china. Up until this time the us compounding pharms were importing from china , now they are locked into powders made in USA, Its going to jack the prices up. the hrt guys are going to get reamed.

I heard about that. however that doesn't really effect our situation, as per the shipping methods employed by the chinese.

I'm more concerned with the recent happenings, and what (in the last 48 hours) has scared a few guys enough to refuse business to USA.
 
DBBT said:
old news and he wasn't anything special
I can agree with this. I was looking for suppliers and all the communication I had with them turned me off that I would never order from them. First off, I hate when someone refers to me as bro, but when some chinaman does it in emails thinking that using american lingo is going to gain my trust then it is a done deal. Just talk and write like a chinaman, it makes you seem more real. Plus their powders are overpriced as hell.
 
solidspine said:
Our DEA in China?


Having lived in China, Sounds highly unlikely,

Sounds a little odd to me too, but I really believe the person that told me.

Also, there are a few good guys over on OM (I know, I hardly believe it too lol) who are getting the same exact story from different guys in china. So, to sum it up, please just be extra careful about ordering anything out of china right now...if they will even take your business.
 
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Heed u2j's words here! The bust in early February was a hoax perpetrated by a big UG owner here in the US to boost demand.
This is now for real, and everyone should be very cautious until the heat subsides.




used2juice said:
Sounds a little odd to me too, but I really believe the person that told me.

Also, there are a few good guys over on OM (I know, I hardly believe it too lol) who are getting the same exact story from different guys in china. So, to sum it up, please just be extra careful about ordering anything out of china right now...if they will even take your business.
 
its the real deal this time folks, if you want to play big and dispute my claim then go ahead and do and behave as you wish...

you have all been warned
 
georgie24 said:
its the real deal this time folks, if you want to play big and dispute my claim then go ahead and do and behave as you wish...

you have all been warned

It sounds like horse crap to anyone with a functioning brain. Communist governments aren't in the habit of letting American DEA officials tell them what to do or how to run their country. How American though to think that another superpower would take orders from them lol. Rumours are spread by the underground labs to shut down all of the kitchen operations. My kitchen will never close operations.

D
 
Sam5 said:
I can agree with this. I was looking for suppliers and all the communication I had with them turned me off that I would never order from them. First off, I hate when someone refers to me as bro, but when some chinaman does it in emails thinking that using american lingo is going to gain my trust then it is a done deal. Just talk and write like a chinaman, it makes you seem more real. Plus their powders are overpriced as hell.


hahaha!! I say "bro" all the time!! but I'm a good WHITE MAN!! :frsty: so it's more acceptable!! hahaha!!

~Papa Lion~
 
Sam5 said:
I can agree with this. I was looking for suppliers and all the communication I had with them turned me off that I would never order from them. First off, I hate when someone refers to me as bro, but when some chinaman does it in emails thinking that using american lingo is going to gain my trust then it is a done deal. Just talk and write like a chinaman, it makes you seem more real. Plus their powders are overpriced as hell.

Really now, what would you be more comfortable that he call you "Wing" or "Ming" or "Chow Mein" or something like that? If you were in China and talking to your average Chinaman using American slang, they wouldn't know what the hell you are talking about, so you would attempt to use Chinese terminology to integrate. It makes perfect sense that he would use American terminology when integrating with Americans.

D
 
Alchemist said:
Really now, what would you be more comfortable that he call you "Wing" or "Ming" or "Chow Mein" or something like that? If you were in China and talking to your average Chinaman using American slang, they wouldn't know what the hell you are talking about, so you would attempt to use Chinese terminology to integrate. It makes perfect sense that he would use American terminology when integrating with Americans.

D
Allways someone there to defend the other side isn't there. Okay, you're right and I'm wrong. Happy?
 
georgie24 said:
its the real deal this time folks, if you want to play big and dispute my claim then go ahead and do and behave as you wish...

you have all been warned
What are you claiming? How about posting up the info for all to read instead of hinting about it, then PM'ing each other. You dont have to reveal private info, but it would be nice to know whats up, if anything.

It doesnt look to me like any of the major Chinese powder guys have even skipped a beat.

Yeah Im sure the DEA is over there busting Chinese citizens.

If anything this is about protecting U.S. drug company profits.

I ask again, if you have info, post it.
 
Got Cajones? said:
What are you claiming? How about posting up the info for all to read instead of hinting about it, then PM'ing each other. You dont have to reveal private info, but it would be nice to know whats up, if anything.

It doesnt look to me like any of the major Chinese powder guys have even skipped a beat.

Yeah Im sure the DEA is over there busting Chinese citizens.

If anything this is about protecting U.S. drug company profits.

I ask again, if you have info, post it.

Try emailing a few of the powder guys and asking if they will ship to the USA...then you'll get an idea. I'm positive there are a few money hungry folk over in china who will risk their freedom, just as there are in the USA. I myself am beyond the age that I care to risk my freedom in such a reckless manner.

You have the info provided. If it's not good enough for you then it's not and you should definately go about business as usual. This heads up is simply for those who care.

PS this "rumor" came from 3 powder sources, not an american UG.
 
used2juice said:
Try emailing a few of the powder guys and asking if they will ship to the USA...then you'll get an idea. I'm positive there are a few money hungry folk over in china who will risk their freedom, just as there are in the USA. I myself am beyond the age that I care to risk my freedom in such a reckless manner.

You have the info provided. If it's not good enough for you then it's not and you should definately go about business as usual. This heads up is simply for those who care.

PS this "rumor" came from 3 powder sources, not an american UG.

Man youve given no info. Dropping "DEA" is not info.

What UG lab do you represent?
 
Here's the point. Be careful, that's all. Just believe me, it's for real. What do you have to lose by going with this? A number of you guys doubting the rumor have post counts that amount to a pimple on my ass.
 
marshallmadman said:
Here's the point. Be careful, that's all. Just believe me, it's for real. What do you have to lose by going with this? A number of you guys doubting the rumor have post counts that amount to a pimple on my ass.
That dont mean shit. Give up some info then

Yeah, just got word from 2 powder guys in China.

THIS IS ANOTHER BULLSHIT RUMOR!!
 
Got Cajones? said:
That dont mean shit. Give up some info then

Yeah, just got word from 2 powder guys in China.

THIS IS ANOTHER BULLSHIT RUMOR!!

I would love to know why 3 of their own are making up this rumor. I don't see how it will benefit them at all to turn down business and say that it is unsafe to send powders right now. Thats like a ug saying "do not purchase ug products, they are unsafe."

I'm am definately open to your thoughts bro, not slamming you at all. I just don't see a possibly obvious angle as to why 3 chinese powder guys are saying to stay clear of purchasing powder right now. I guess I don't see how that is helping them.
 
For what it's worth, just by odd coincidence, my source contacted me tonight asking how the last batch tested. I told him just peachy. I didn't ask any questions because as long as things are cool between us all is good. I buy direct from the manufacturer, they don't seem concerned to me but I'm not in the US.
 
CO B-man said:
I dont know because I dont order illegal things from anywhere but I would
say refer to your initial post. Re-shipping siezed packages gets expensive. n but from what people say there are still people out there shipping

there will always be supply brothers, no matter how many they bust! prices may get out of hand, but it will always be there.
 
this is old news ... G#K# and onother china supplier were said last month to be cuaght by the chinese govt for tax evasion.. and shutting down then it turned into usa customs was of in china working with the govt.. then it was oh the domestic remailers got busted...

Its all bullshit G*K* didnt repley to emails becuase of server problems that didnt get fixed right away then suddenly all the rumors started circling due to people makeing up excuses why he was not responding... Write to him and ask him your self ...packs still come through infact a large pack just made it real close to me to a friend less then 2 miles away .Packing was awsome he thought even he was scammed untill he started disasembling the products inside..
 
chazk said:
this is old news ... G#K# and onother china supplier were said last month to be cuaght by the chinese govt for tax evasion.. and shutting down then it turned into usa customs was of in china working with the govt.. then it was oh the domestic remailers got busted...

Its all bullshit G*K* didnt repley to emails becuase of server problems that didnt get fixed right away then suddenly all the rumors started circling due to people makeing up excuses why he was not responding... Write to him and ask him your self ...packs still come through infact a large pack just made it real close to me to a friend less then 2 miles away .Packing was awsome he thought even he was scammed untill he started disasembling the products inside..

So then these other few guys are using this rumor to help themselves make less money? Again, not slamming anyone, just trying to understand a logical angle.
 
It is true via my guy. He is okay but laying low for a minute to let shit calm down. I guess the DEA wiped out all the Meth and Crack and Ice and Coke here if they are in China worried about steroid powders. I hate our Gov't....I love my country....I hate my Gov't.

Quadsweep
 
My powder guy is gone. He said govt was causing to much of a hassle. Not sure what is going on but I know my china powder is no longer.
 
Looks like shit is about to hit the fan folks.Fucking love this goverment.Meanwhile the methlabs and the heroin smugglin is running amuck all over this country killing kids and everyone in their paths.
 
Quadsweep said:
It is true via my guy. He is okay but laying low for a minute to let shit calm down. I guess the DEA wiped out all the Meth and Crack and Ice and Coke here if they are in China worried about steroid powders. I hate our Gov't....I love my country....I hate my Gov't.

Quadsweep

If there is a crackdown then it is the Chinese government and not the US DEA. Again, be realistic, a communist government will NEVER let US authorities tell them what to do or enforce US laws in their country. I don't give a hoot what anyone on here says. US authorities entering China to enforce US laws WOULD MAKE FRONT PAGE HEADLINES ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT WOULD BE THE TOP STORY ON CNN AND EVERY MAJOR TV STATION AROUND THE WORLD. Get real guys and use your own common sense.

PS. Sorry I picked out your post QS but I had to quote someone lol. There's probably is a crackdown but what is questionable is who is doing the cracking.
 
Alchemist said:
If there is a crackdown then it is the Chinese government and not the US DEA. Again, be realistic, a communist government will NEVER let US authorities tell them what to do or enforce US laws in their country. I don't give a hoot what anyone on here says. US authorities entering China to enforce US laws WOULD MAKE FRONT PAGE HEADLINES ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT WOULD BE THE TOP STORY ON CNN AND EVERY MAJOR TV STATION AROUND THE WORLD. Get real guys and use your own common sense.

PS. Sorry I picked out your post QS but I had to quote someone lol. There's probably is a crackdown but what is questionable is who is doing the cracking.
What is realistic to you? That we flew drugs(cocaine) into Mena, Arkansas all throughout the eighties with the Knowledge of governor Clinton on CIA airlines to help fund the contras in Nicaragua on top of recieving profits from arms sold to Iran at exorbitant prices. You, my friend have no fuccking clue as to what realistic is. Not only do you come on here with your single digit post and immediately start getting argumentative with me and others thinking you know everything and we don't knopw shit, but it is ironic that you are chastising people for being exactly the way that you are. The reality of it is that you think your the right one here and you have no clue or backup other than what you think is logically right. Logic is not going to get you anywhere when trying to figure out what or what not our government is doing in collaboration or cooperation with other governments. Did you know that China will be the largest exporter come 2008 in the world and that they are also the biggest buyers of US bonds in the world. Their economy is working hand in hand with ours at the moment and I study economics here at the University of Iowa so I might know a little about what is going on. If you don't think that any of this affects what we are concerned with you are even more of an idiot than you have already shown. Now go make gold outta lead somewhere else you fucking idiot because your behavior thus far as I can see is going to make you a pariah here at elite. Fuck off.
 
jochensa said:
what are steroids used for, i am glad i dont do them like you guys!!!

:rolleyes:
They're just cholesterol and a few of its derivatives and variations. They're used to facilitate some of the more basic biological functions and I think you'll find that we all use them in pretty much the same way despite differences in manner of administration.
 
Sam5 said:
What is realistic to you? That we flew drugs(cocaine) into Mena, Arkansas all throughout the eighties with the Knowledge of governor Clinton on CIA airlines to help fund the contras in Nicaragua on top of recieving profits from arms sold to Iran at exorbitant prices. You, my friend have no fuccking clue as to what realistic is. Not only do you come on here with your single digit post and immediately start getting argumentative with me and others thinking you know everything and we don't knopw shit, but it is ironic that you are chastising people for being exactly the way that you are. The reality of it is that you think your the right one here and you have no clue or backup other than what you think is logically right. Logic is not going to get you anywhere when trying to figure out what or what not our government is doing in collaboration or cooperation with other governments. Did you know that China will be the largest exporter come 2008 in the world and that they are also the biggest buyers of US bonds in the world. Their economy is working hand in hand with ours at the moment and I study economics here at the University of Iowa so I might know a little about what is going on. If you don't think that any of this affects what we are concerned with you are even more of an idiot than you have already shown. Now go make gold outta lead somewhere else you fucking idiot because your behavior thus far as I can see is going to make you a pariah here at elite. Fuck off.
If you dont use logic, what should you use monkey?

Studying economics doesnt mean you know shit about this subject. And judging by your posts, you dont know shit.

China isnt working hand in hand with our economy, they have our economies balls in thier hand and they are squeezing.They could sell those bonds any time and devestate our economy.

Who gives a fuck about being a "pariah" at elite fitness?

Oh yeah, Got any actual info on this "bust"?

Ive asked for info over and over, no one has any....BECAUSE THIS IS A B.S. RUMOR!!!!
 
Got Cajones? said:
If you dont use logic, what should you use monkey?

Studying economics doesnt mean you know shit about this subject. And judging by your posts, you dont know shit.

China isnt working hand in hand with our economy, they have our economies balls in thier hand and they are squeezing.They could sell those bonds any time and devestate our economy.

Who gives a fuck about being a "pariah" at elite fitness?

Oh yeah, Got any actual info on this "bust"?

Ive asked for info over and over, no one has any....BECAUSE THIS IS A B.S. RUMOR!!!!
Whatever wiseguy!! You conduct your life and I'll do fine with mine. You don't know me and I definitely don't want to know you. I honestly realy don't take what I read on these boards with any seriosness to tell you the truth unless I know it to be true and I've found that getting worked up after a certain point is pointless so I'll leave this one alone. It does me no good to argue with a computer screen.
 
just got back 3 emails from 3 sources in china ... All is good.
I think the confusion is lots of sources are in china nowadays and some are having problems its just like walmart here in the usa pushes out the little guys.The big powder suppliers will always exist as long as a demand exist you best believe china men will mail you what you want as long as they are getting money in their pockets.. So the usa stops the mail and it does not get through thinks your source had dried up?Then the source will have a giant barge with tons of steroid powders stitting in cargo holds waiting to come through a port as the cutoms agents counts his payoff and watches as domestic remailers unpack the ship and it starts it journey across the usa.

As long as people exist that use drugs finding drugs is never a problem .. Only thing in the future would be how much are you willing to pay?Ifthe street price gets to high people might be forced to using human grade gear again!! imagine that.
 
chazk said:
just got back 3 emails from 3 sources in china ... All is good.
I think the confusion is lots of sources are in china nowadays and some are having problems its just like walmart here in the usa pushes out the little guys.The big powder suppliers will always exist as long as a demand exist you best believe china men will mail you what you want as long as they are getting money in their pockets.. So the usa stops the mail and it does not get through thinks your source had dried up?Then the source will have a giant barge with tons of steroid powders stitting in cargo holds waiting to come through a port as the cutoms agents counts his payoff and watches as domestic remailers unpack the ship and it starts it journey across the usa.

As long as people exist that use drugs finding drugs is never a problem .. Only thing in the future would be how much are you willing to pay?Ifthe street price gets to high people might be forced to using human grade gear again!! imagine that.
I like your thinking except for using the human grade gear again. :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
chazk said:
just got back 3 emails from 3 sources in china ... All is good.
I think the confusion is lots of sources are in china nowadays and some are having problems its just like walmart here in the usa pushes out the little guys.The big powder suppliers will always exist as long as a demand exist you best believe china men will mail you what you want as long as they are getting money in their pockets.. So the usa stops the mail and it does not get through thinks your source had dried up?Then the source will have a giant barge with tons of steroid powders stitting in cargo holds waiting to come through a port as the cutoms agents counts his payoff and watches as domestic remailers unpack the ship and it starts it journey across the usa.

As long as people exist that use drugs finding drugs is never a problem .. Only thing in the future would be how much are you willing to pay?Ifthe street price gets to high people might be forced to using human grade gear again!! imagine that.

Appreciate the good info. Thank you!
 
Alchemist said:
If there is a crackdown then it is the Chinese government and not the US DEA. Again, be realistic, a communist government will NEVER let US authorities tell them what to do or enforce US laws in their country. I don't give a hoot what anyone on here says. US authorities entering China to enforce US laws WOULD MAKE FRONT PAGE HEADLINES ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT WOULD BE THE TOP STORY ON CNN AND EVERY MAJOR TV STATION AROUND THE WORLD. Get real guys and use your own common sense.

PS. Sorry I picked out your post QS but I had to quote someone lol. There's probably is a crackdown but what is questionable is who is doing the cracking.

totally agree with this. this rumor first came out back in january, and people are having the same arguments again. keep in mind, the usg may have the stones to impose their will on some sovereign states, but china ain't one of them. that's a war that would truly be the end of life as we know it. the most populous country in the world with one of the fastest growing economies, the largest army in the world, and a large nuclear stockpile. even if they ran out of bullets they simply drown us in bodies. Also, china wants the world to think it's getting tough on steroids so it looks good as the host of the 08 olympics in beijing. china will eventually close down the powder suppliers, but i think everyone will know about it when it happens. when the olympic games are over, the powder will flow once again.

rule #1 of the aas universe, the powder must flow.
 
few other boards are saying dea is in shanghai and chinese govt is cooperating...sure has something to do w/the 2008 olympics around the corner...kinda obvious that feds know powders are coming from china and trying to get help from chinese govt.
 
gtrcivic said:
few other boards are saying dea is in shanghai and chinese govt is cooperating...sure has something to do w/the 2008 olympics around the corner...kinda obvious that feds know powders are coming from china and trying to get help from chinese govt.

believe me when I tell you we already tried to stop the flow of drugs from south america regan gave them Billions and claimed he helped stop the drug trade It got bigger as the govt officals were in on the drug cartel and cociane swept the 80's by storm.If the usa is trying to stop the china drug trade by giving chinas govt money .china will take the money and the suppliers will be doubled as china magically needs more funds to stop the wrong doers until they drain every penny from the usa they can as long as the govt is making money china will make what ever makes them money.
Just as columbia ships its powders to the usa china will ship theirs
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703108/
Here you go, read it. I out of most hope that this is rumor, but I'm not going to be blind to the fact that shit like this is going on. Luckily I ordered enough that I will be fine for a good long time. I too make my own, so I'm just playing devils advocate here.
 
Sam5 said:
What is realistic to you? That we flew drugs(cocaine) into Mena, Arkansas all throughout the eighties with the Knowledge of governor Clinton on CIA airlines to help fund the contras in Nicaragua on top of recieving profits from arms sold to Iran at exorbitant prices. You, my friend have no fuccking clue as to what realistic is. Not only do you come on here with your single digit post and immediately start getting argumentative with me and others thinking you know everything and we don't knopw shit, but it is ironic that you are chastising people for being exactly the way that you are. The reality of it is that you think your the right one here and you have no clue or backup other than what you think is logically right. Logic is not going to get you anywhere when trying to figure out what or what not our government is doing in collaboration or cooperation with other governments. Did you know that China will be the largest exporter come 2008 in the world and that they are also the biggest buyers of US bonds in the world. Their economy is working hand in hand with ours at the moment and I study economics here at the University of Iowa so I might know a little about what is going on. If you don't think that any of this affects what we are concerned with you are even more of an idiot than you have already shown. Now go make gold outta lead somewhere else you fucking idiot because your behavior thus far as I can see is going to make you a pariah here at elite. Fuck off.

You have just proven what an ass you truely are with this post. You are a laughable young man who has a lot to learn but an attitude that will prevent him from doing so. And yes you may have more posts than me, a whole 94 posts lol, but I would prefer to prove who the more knowledgable individual is with a pose down. Feeling in the mood to be embarrassed on an exponential scale? I can see your picture in your avatar Toothpick and your not even in my league.
 
Sam5 said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703108/
Here you go, read it. I out of most hope that this is rumor, but I'm not going to be blind to the fact that shit like this is going on. Luckily I ordered enough that I will be fine for a good long time. I too make my own, so I'm just playing devils advocate here.

dude that news article has nothing to do with steroids....its the columbian drug trade .
the dea simply told china hey here is where some cociane is comming into your country we know becuase its the same way they get cocaine into our country...
sam5 now find me a article thats says the dea is trying to stop china from selling drugs (steroids) worldwide...you wont find it.
google away.
 
Alchemist said:
You have just proven what an ass you truely are with this post. You are a laughable young man who has a lot to learn but an attitude that will prevent him from doing so. And yes you may have more posts than me, a whole 94 posts lol, but I would prefer to prove who the more knowledgable individual is with a pose down. Feeling in the mood to be embarrassed on an exponential scale? I can see your picture in your avatar Toothpick and your not even in my league.
Toothpick??? Far from it tough guy. Post up buddy and lets see what you got. And put a sign nest to your face that says alchemist. As I said I may be wrong, I'm not negating that possibility. I'm mature enough to know that I don't know everything. If I had to guess I would say you're a bit younger than I am telling by your outbursts and know it all attitude.
 
for those that believe this to be rumor and otherwise, just continue to live per usual. For those that value freedom above stupidity, some of us are advising caution.

For whatever retard made the post, I somehow doubt anybody here is well connected enough to the DEA to know exactly what's goin on. However when people who are actually watching the DEA, FDA, and interpol go through facilities in china tell me that something is going on...well I'm going to go ahead and believe them over the idiot who keeps saying "show me some proof."
 
used2juice said:
for those that believe this to be rumor and otherwise, just continue to live per usual. For those that value freedom above stupidity, some of us are advising caution.

For whatever retard made the post, I somehow doubt anybody here is well connected enough to the DEA to know exactly what's goin on. However when people who are actually watching the DEA, FDA, and interpol go through facilities in china tell me that something is going on...well I'm going to go ahead and believe them over the idiot who keeps saying "show me some proof."
are you blind the article he posted showed exactly what going on the dea agents went to china to invetigate a columbian drug ring importing tons of cocaine into china.. thats it end ot story get a fucking grip.
china has no problem exporting powders. if you actually ordered a package then you will know its not marked as "steroids" it marked as other thing then the source decodes what is what when you email them some use number systems ,some use colors some label things as certian vitamins and mineral mixes..
I have never ordred anything from china marked" steroids" atleast good sources dont do stupid shit like that...

besides the good sources are harder to find they dont advertise on the boards or run banners .. you have to find them by installing chinese translators into your computers windows system and track them down through trade websites and take communication for their ..I would never trust a poweder guys that advertises to a usa market on websites aimed towards bodybuilders.
 
Sam5 said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703108/
Here you go, read it. I out of most hope that this is rumor, but I'm not going to be blind to the fact that shit like this is going on. Luckily I ordered enough that I will be fine for a good long time. I too make my own, so I'm just playing devils advocate here.


chazk is right - this article has nothing to do with this thread. Cuation is good only whe it's realistic. And doesn't all kidergardeners know where most coke comes from? - well it's not from China and the Chinese connection with Columbian drug cartels is nothing new - like 10 to 15 years not new.
 
nolimitxxx said:
chazk is right - this article has nothing to do with this thread. Cuation is good only whe it's realistic. And doesn't all kidergardeners know where most coke comes from? - well it's not from China and the Chinese connection with Columbian drug cartels is nothing new - like 10 to 15 years not new.
you know whats funny about that whole article is that the usa cant even stop columbia drug cartels from importing 100's of tons of cocaine into usa yet the dea was spending tax payer dollars trying to help other countries with the columbian drug cartels
Our tax dollars hard at work for americans :rolleyes:

on another note steroids in alot of countries are legal to buy and mail where ever it needs to be shipped to mailing steroids world wide is not illegal.. ITS UP TO YOU to obey your countires laws and have a script for the drugs in your country if your country requires..nothing illegal about china mailing steroids only thing illegal is the person that orders with out a script is disobeys his own countries laws..
 
Honestly this thread has went south and I'm partly to blame. I'm really not arguing for one side or the other. Just posting analogous situations that show the interaction between governments. What pisses me off is when people come out and personally attack me for no good reason. I stated that I didn't like the way a certain chinese pharm rep was communicating with me and it led me to distrust him since I was going to be making an expensive order. I did more networking and I'm really glad that I did, and I've come across others on several boards who love this particular guy and his products. I didn't find him on a bodybuilding board. Anyway, I just recieved some Oxymetholone and tren ace powder from him about a week ago and had no problem, but I still do not rule out the fact that US agencies could be involved with China, especially with the Olympics coming up. The IOC may have a hand in all this too. As another poster said above, I really doubt any of us here are connected well enough to know what the real deal is. All we can really do is speculate. I apologize to everyone for the misleading post if that is what it appeared. Alchemist, I do not apologize to you, you are an extremely toxic person, no doubt, and I do not respect your opinion, info, advice, or anything else that regurgitates out of your rotten, subhuman mouth. Oh, and post up bud. Were waiting, or at least I know I am.
 
chazk said:
are you blind the article he posted showed exactly what going on the dea agents went to china to invetigate a columbian drug ring importing tons of cocaine into china.. thats it end ot story get a fucking grip.
china has no problem exporting powders. if you actually ordered a package then you will know its not marked as "steroids" it marked as other thing then the source decodes what is what when you email them some use number systems ,some use colors some label things as certian vitamins and mineral mixes..
I have never ordred anything from china marked" steroids" atleast good sources dont do stupid shit like that...

besides the good sources are harder to find they dont advertise on the boards or run banners .. you have to find them by installing chinese translators into your computers windows system and track them down through trade websites and take communication for their ..I would never trust a poweder guys that advertises to a usa market on websites aimed towards bodybuilders.
ON POINT!!!
 
chazk said:
are you blind the article he posted showed exactly what going on the dea agents went to china to invetigate a columbian drug ring importing tons of cocaine into china.. thats it end ot story get a fucking grip.
china has no problem exporting powders. if you actually ordered a package then you will know its not marked as "steroids" it marked as other thing then the source decodes what is what when you email them some use number systems ,some use colors some label things as certian vitamins and mineral mixes..
I have never ordred anything from china marked" steroids" atleast good sources dont do stupid shit like that...

besides the good sources are harder to find they dont advertise on the boards or run banners .. you have to find them by installing chinese translators into your computers windows system and track them down through trade websites and take communication for their ..I would never trust a poweder guys that advertises to a usa market on websites aimed towards bodybuilders.
I thought you and I would never agree, but I think I liet my ego get in the way on this thread. I agree with this 100%. I found my guy on tradekey.com after searching the web. Prices are so much better too.
 
Sam5 said:
I thought you and I would never agree, but I think I liet my ego get in the way on this thread. I agree with this 100%. I found my guy on tradekey.com after searching the web. Prices are so much better too.
HEY glad we atleast agree on something !!!
 
Sam5 said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12703108/
Here you go, read it. I out of most hope that this is rumor, but I'm not going to be blind to the fact that shit like this is going on. Luckily I ordered enough that I will be fine for a good long time. I too make my own, so I'm just playing devils advocate here.

Your a jackass. That raid was for cocaine, and that was almost a year ago..
 
VooDooChild said:
Your a jackass. That raid was for cocaine, and that was almost a year ago..
Allright, allright, enough, I'm a jackass, I've heard this enough. It was a bad analogy to use, and I apologize. To be honest I really didn't read through alot of it. I saw it posted on a thread at anabolex.com in a thread where they're arguing about the same shit and I posted it. My fault. Are you guys done. Man, I am really figuring out that it is just not worth getting my blood pressure up over you guys anymore. What a wonderful conclusion to come to. For those who call me a jackass, do you have any info on the contrary to this. Again, it was only to show that things like this can happen in counties that are unfriendly to the USA. Remember, Columbia is one of the most dangerous places to visit in the world right now due to kidnapping.
 
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