Honestly this thread has went south and I'm partly to blame. I'm really not arguing for one side or the other. Just posting analogous situations that show the interaction between governments. What pisses me off is when people come out and personally attack me for no good reason. I stated that I didn't like the way a certain chinese pharm rep was communicating with me and it led me to distrust him since I was going to be making an expensive order. I did more networking and I'm really glad that I did, and I've come across others on several boards who love this particular guy and his products. I didn't find him on a bodybuilding board. Anyway, I just recieved some Oxymetholone and tren ace powder from him about a week ago and had no problem, but I still do not rule out the fact that US agencies could be involved with China, especially with the Olympics coming up. The IOC may have a hand in all this too. As another poster said above, I really doubt any of us here are connected well enough to know what the real deal is. All we can really do is speculate. I apologize to everyone for the misleading post if that is what it appeared. Alchemist, I do not apologize to you, you are an extremely toxic person, no doubt, and I do not respect your opinion, info, advice, or anything else that regurgitates out of your rotten, subhuman mouth. Oh, and post up bud. Were waiting, or at least I know I am.