Cardio Misconception #1

[Nelson Montana]

That would mean something if you had not plagerized that from someone else.

Are you insinuating that I'm a plagerist? Now you are REALLY out of line!

I can prove I wrote what you said long before you posted it. Show me were I plagerized something?

You are out of control dude. You steal something and then defend yourself by saying I stole it first?

I can't believe the gaul, not to mention the stupidity of this person.

 

[2Thick]

You developing a concept from scientific evidence is plagerism?

You haven't got a clue, do you?

Pretending like you made up the concept is plagerism.

You know, like what you do.

But then again, your opinions are not really grounded in science.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yes, you plagerized basic scientific info and are trying to pass it on as your own.

You do not strike me as a genius, so figuring out basic science is probably not your strong suit.

You developing a concept from scientific evidence is plagerism?

You haven't got a clue, do you?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Pretending like you made up the concept is plagerism.

You know, like what you do.

But then again, your opinions are not really grounded in science.

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So I'm a plagerist for using science but my opinions are not grounded in science. I see.

Sounds like you're trying to have it both ways.

Your arguments are really weak minded -- not suprisingly. I hope at least you can bench a lot because logic is obviously not your strong suit.

 

[2Thick]

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So I'm a plagerist for using science but my opinions are not grounded in science. I see.

Sounds like you're trying to have it both ways.

Your arguments are really weak minded -- not suprisingly. I hope at least you can bench a lot because logic is obviously not your strong suit.

Nice comeback....

 

[rager2500]

Round 2????

 

[poantrex]

Whatever you say 2thick - you're right that high intensity cardio is more likely to use carbohydrates and glucose as fuel and less fat, but ultimately you will not burn much fat during exercise anyway no matter what you're doing.

Anyways, I maintain that short duration high intensity cardio is far superior for minimizing muscle wasting and increasing fat loss - I believe there are numerous studies showing that this type of cardio is more beneficial in terms of fat loss over long duration low intensity cardio, as well.

I'll tell you this - with my heart monitor, my heart rate and metabolism stays stoked well after my exercise session with HIIT cardio, which isn't true at all for low intensity cardio.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

2Thick,

What is the point of cardio for bodybuilders? To lose fat, right? We are not talking about anything else here, correct?

Since fat loss depends primarily on caloric deficit, then the more calories lost = more fat loss.

HIIT causes much greater caloric loss than low-intensity cardio. I don't care if low-intensity cardio preferentially burns fat calories-- that does not matter nearly as much in the overall picture as total caloric expenditure. You lose more calories and thus, more bodyfat when implementing HIIT vs. low-intensity cardio, all else being equal.

2 to 4 20-30 minute sessions of HIIT will not burn muscle unless you are lacking adequate nutrition and anabolic hormones. Neither will 2-4 60minute sessions of lowintensity cardio, ceterus parabus. However, since you burn more calories with HIIT-- it will cause more caloric/bodyfat loss.

Conclusion: HIIT is more effective for fat loss than low-intensity cardio. Owned.

 

[2Thick]

What is the point of cardio for bodybuilders? To lose fat, right? We are not talking about anything else here, correct?

Since fat loss depends primarily on caloric deficit, then the more calories lost = more fat loss.

As bodybuilders, we want to cut fat without cutting calories. If we go into a caloric deficit, then we sacrifice our muscle building. If you want to cut muscle growth along with fat then go ahead and do you HIIT program.

Your body uses fat stores last, hence, going into calorie deficit will deplete your carbos and glycogen stores first (which reduce muscle building). Low impact cardio avoids depleting carbos and goes straight to the fat. It may take a little longer but you keep more of your muscle.

Conclusion: HIIT is more effective for fat loss than low-intensity cardio. Owned.

LOL... the only thing you 'own' is a vivid imagination.

 

[poantrex]

You're almost as stubborn in your views as Nelson, 2thick.

If I were really anal, i'd dig up a dozen studies showing that HIIT is more effective at reducing bodyfat than low intensity cardio...but I doubt that even that would convince you.