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Canadian Teens to be beheaded

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These are two kids who immigrated to Canada 8 yrs ago from Saudi Arabia and went back to visit.
I have mixed feelings over this story.

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Dollard teen might be beheaded in wake of Saudi judge's ruling
18-year-old's brother is already facing death penalty


MAX HARROLD, The Gazette; Canwest News Service contributed to this report
Published: 7 hours ago

A West Island family's ordeal with Saudi Arabian justice has taken a turn for the worse after a Saudi judge's ruling this week that an 18-year-old Canadian may be beheaded for his role in a Syrian teen's death last year.

Sultan Kohail, 18, must be judged under the same terms as his older brother Mohamed, a Saudi court ruled Tuesday.

Mohamed, 23, has been sentenced to be beheaded for his role in a schoolyard brawl in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, in January 2007 that left a 19-year-old man dead. Mohamed has been in prison for 18 months.

Sultan remains free and is living with his family in Jiddah, his uncle Abdul Rauf said yesterday in a phone interview from Jiddah. Sultan is depressed and is spending a lot of time at home, Rauf said.

"It's something hard for him," Rauf said. In April, a youth court had sentenced Sultan to 200 lashes and one year in prison. Now, that sentence has been thrown out and the matter referred back to an adult court.

The boys' father, Ali Kohail, also in Jiddah, said the family is hanging their hopes on yet another appeal to a higher court.

"We could hear something in 15 days," the weary-sounding Kohail said. "We are working very hard with our lawyer, but I don't know what will happen."

The Kohail family lived in Dollard des Ormeaux after immigrating to Canada in 2000. They are Canadian citizens and returned to Saudi Arabia to visit relatives in late 2006.

Dan McTeague, an MP from Ontario who is the Liberal Party's critic for consular services, said in a statement that the Kohails do not deserve such fates.

"The two innocent Canadians were set upon by a gang of 15 youths, some of whom were armed with knives and sticks," McTeague said. "Sultan and Mohamed were running for their lives from their attackers. They did not plan or initiate the murder of anyone. Transferring Sultan Kohail's case to an adult court is very troubling, given the possibility of him receiving the death penalty."

Mahmoud Al-Ken, a Kohail family friend and spokesperson who lives in Montreal, said the Canadian government has done little to help the brothers.

"We need ministerial-level talks," Al-Ken said in a phone interview from Hims, Syria, where he is vacationing.

As long as the Canadian government doesn't take this as seriously as the Brenda Martin case, no serious progress will be made, Al-Ken said.

Martin, 51, a Canadian imprisoned in Mexico for two years who was convicted of the equivalent of money laundering, was brought back to Canada in May after meetings between Canadian and Mexican officials.

Al-Ken said the Saudi court's next decision on the Kohail brothers' cases might take three or four weeks, or longer.

They could confirm the death penalty for Mohamed - and hand the same fate to Sultan - or they could hold another trial, he said.

The Kohails have maintained their innocence and asked for another trial that would review more of the evidence, including a cellphone video of the brawl.

In a statement emailed to The Gazette, Shaun Tinkler, a spokesperson for the Foreign Affairs Department, said: "Canada will pursue all avenues to assist Mr. Kohail. We urge Saudi authorities to overturn the death sentence. We are deeply disappointed at the verdict handed down by Saudi authorities."

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Wow, if it is true that they were just defending themselves against an attack, then the Canadian government should step up to the plate for these boys and make sure that they are not executed or even given the lashes.
 
That is where I have mixed feelings, they went to a country that knows the laws are barberic.
Why should the government always help people who visit countries where there are sick laws and tons of crime.
 
blueta2 said:
That is where I have mixed feelings, they went to a country that knows the laws are barberic.
Why should the government always help people who visit countries where there are sick laws and tons of crime.
They went to visit family it says. I don't think people should be forced to stay in their home countries all their lives, even if they just went to sight see. I just think it is the right thing to do. Think if that was your little brother or your son who was going to be beheaded because he visited America and was jumped by some thugs and killed one of them (not that we behead people or anything...lol).
 
We are all accountable for our own actions. Although I disagree with the level of punishment in this case, they should have known better to head back..
 
heatherrae said:
They went to visit family it says. I don't think people should be forced to stay in their home countries all their lives, even if they just went to sight see. I just think it is the right thing to do. Think if that was your little brother or your son who was going to be beheaded because he visited America and was jumped by some thugs and killed one of them (not that we behead people or anything...lol).


Well if my little bro went to visit Camden NJ, I would be worried about his safety ;-)
But we are talking about barberic countries here.

Of course I feel so bad for these boys, but it should not be up the tax payers and the government to help get them out of the situation.
 
Army Vet said:
We are all accountable for our own actions. Although I disagree with the level of punishment in this case, they should have known better to head back..

+1

Should have stayed in civilised Canada. Now they're going to get their shit ruined for heading back :)
 
blueta2 said:
Well if my little bro went to visit Camden NJ, I would be worried about his safety ;-)
But we are talking about barberic countries here.

Of course I feel so bad for these boys, but it should not be up the tax payers and the government to help get them out of the situation.

Camden is but one of the many festive towns that make our great state unique! If you're like me and only run outdoors when being chased, Camden is a runner's paradise. :D
 
jerseyrugger76 said:
Camden is but one of the many festive towns that make our great state unique! If you're like me and only run outdoors when being chased, Camden is a runner's paradise. :D

I was there once for a music fest (on the water) and I had my brand new car at the time. My friends were like, lock your doors, close the windows and do not give eye contact to anyone on the street or we'll be carjacked!

:worried:

I was stunned. I would never feel that unsafe in my city.
 
There is a guy in town here that came here from Saudi Arabia. He was sentenced to death over there in absentia. (sp)

He was married to a woman and she died under mysterious circumstances. Then he left his second wife when she made some charges against him and fled here.

Dude is 26 years old and can never go home.
 
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