can someone check this blood test pls

[bowly]

thank zyg..that real valuable insight..god bless man

currently taking zma,multi vitamin esteemo and keraglow for hair which is thinning due to high prl,low d3..and finasteride 1mg

tamoxifen to prevent further binding(finasteride may add too)but now have shifted to ralox since gyno started to subside..

simvastatin for cholesterol..

will get another test in few days..should I supplement with t3 as I feel fatigue n lethargy during noon..also do u suggest vit a and k to help d3 levels..

someone also suggested calcium for thinning hair..any good?




prl gyno doesnt necessarily involve discharge or itching.

Halides like fluoride, bromide etc are all around us an inundate us with toxins. These halides displace iodine which is an essential nutrient for the production of thyroid hormones. An underfunctioning thyroid is one that is not function to 100% optimal capacity but yet is not functioning so poorly that lab range of T3 for example drops below range. a couple tenths of a pointin T3 hormone levels can have a drastic effect on mood, fat levels, muscle mass and overall how the rest of the body functions. Your T3 levels can be right in the middle of lab range but not be optimal. Think of it terms of natural test level, would you rather have 400 test of 600 test? Both are in lab range but I can gaurantee you will feel so much better at 600. The same holds true for thyroid function.

The D3 blood test is questionable in terms of real meaning and merit but the reason I said your low levels arent horrible is because if they were higher then you likely would have even more problems. Do I think you should raise D levels? Absolutely! BUT when you increase D intake you also increase the bodies need for magnesium. D can also have toxicity issue when not accompanied by proper amounts of vit A and vit K.

Based on your symptoms I think its pretty clear you could do a lot with proper supplementation. Something a typical doctor isnt going to be of much help with. Blood work is also going to be of somewhat limited value but in short if you want to do lab work get your mineral levels checked via RBC blood work and NOT serum blood work. Check for all the essential minerals you can.

Its a very complex and deep topic which is going to take time to address but if your dont have a doc in your area you will need to become your own nutritionist and scour the web reading everything you can.[/QUOTE]

 

[Zyglamail]

thank zyg..that real valuable insight..god bless man

currently taking zma,multi vitamin esteemo and keraglow for hair which is thinning due to high prl,low d3..and finasteride 1mg

tamoxifen to prevent further binding(finasteride may add too)but now have shifted to ralox since gyno started to subside..

simvastatin for cholesterol..

will get another test in few days..should I supplement with t3 as I feel fatigue n lethargy during noon..also do u suggest vit a and k to help d3 levels..

someone also suggested calcium for thinning hair..any good?

finasteride is the devil! These are the kind of details that are important. The stuff totally throws off the HPTA and can have long term nasty sides that last for years after you stop taking it.

You really dont want to be taking calcium if your are not 100% sure you dont need it. Without Vit A, D and K its just going to deposit in soft tissue anyway, which isnt where you want it. Loss of hair can also be a sign of hypogonadism and taking T3 is not going to fix that . You want to get your thyroid working optimally not shut it down by taking T3. Taking thyroid hormones should be a last result only after you have made sure your body has reached sufficiency with iodine and selenium.

Vit a and K wont help D levels, you need to take D for that but dont take just vit D, you need A and K and magnesium along with it. Your should ideally have about a 5:1 A to D raito which can be had by many cod liver oil supplements. Your go9ng to want to try and get at least a couple hundred mcg MK4 and bump up magnesium intake another 400mg above your ZMA (assuming its around 400mg on its own).

Im not following you when you say "tamoxifen to prevent further binding" you clearly dont have estrogen issues no idea why you want to take nolva.

People really need to start looking at basic nutrition to fix problems first and then turn to drugs. A lot of people lose hair because they have nutritional issue. Then they jump on a bunch of drugs and just make things worse.

 

[bowly]

finasteride is the devil! These are the kind of details that are important. The stuff totally throws off the HPTA and can have long term nasty sides that last for years after you stop taking it.just started taking it 3 days back,as hair was receeding fast at the front
You really dont want to be taking calcium if your are not 100% sure you dont need it. Without Vit A, D and K its just going to deposit in soft tissue anyway..by its do u mean calcium or vit d3, which isnt where you want it.

Loss of hair can also be a sign of hypogonadism wont lh and fsh say if I have hypogonadism and taking T3 is not going to fix that . You want to get your thyroid working optimally not shut it down by taking T3. Taking thyroid hormones should be a last result only after you have made sure your body has reached sufficiency with iodine and selenium.

Vit a and K wont help D levels, you need to take D for that but dont take just vit D, you need A and K and magnesium along with it. Your should ideally have about a 5:1 A to D raito which can be had by many cod liver oil supplements.currently taking vit d3 5000iu after breakfast..wont 5 times vit a be too much,
Your go9ng to want to try and get at least a couple hundred mcg MK4 zyg whats mk4 and bump up magnesium intake another 400mg above your ZMA (assuming its around 400mg on its own).I take zma before seeping so do I take additional magnesium with it or with d3 in the morn as u mentioned earlier
Im not following you when you say "tamoxifen to prevent further binding" you clearly dont have estrogen issues no idea why you want to take nolva.there was gyno and it was increasing and now its come down..thats why was taking nolva to prevent further binding of any kind to the chest tissues

People really need to start looking at basic nutrition to fix problems first and then turn to drugs. A lot of people lose hair because they have nutritional issue. Then they jump on a bunch of drugs and just make things worse.i agree but diagnoses here is very poor..just imagine I was lucky to find u after three yrs of posting my issues on this website..put a search on my threads and u will realise no one has such profound knowledge of things as urself..endocrinologist in Mumbai said let it be it will self dissolve..come after 3 months
I will lose the fina and the statin after a month..keeping the ralox on incase fina decides to flare up that gyno..

how many iu of vit a and mg of vit k do u suggest with the d3and is 5000iu ok or bump upto 10000 ..will also add 400mg magnesium to the 2 pill of gnc zma..it says magn-60mg and zinc 30mg

 

[Zyglamail]

Sorry I mean hypothyroidism not hypogonadism.

5000iu vit D is a lot especially if your not taking any A or K.

MK4 is a form of vit K

I would not take calcium, especially if your not getting ample A and K with the D your taking. Have you been taking the D long? I would guess no, because if you were your 25 hydroxyl levels wouldnt be so low.

I would add the additional 400mg mangesium in the morning with breakfast of even with lunch. Too much at one time can give you diarrhea.

I wouldnt go any higher than 5000IU of D, even though your levels are low and certainly not without getting more A and some K in there. There is a synnergy and requirement for vit A, D, K and magnesium and calcium. Assuming you eat some dairy and there is some calcium in your multi vitamin you likely dont need any more calcium.

here is a quick rundown of where I would start.....
vit D 5000IU
vit A 25000IU
(you could just use a single cod liver oil supplement in get both in 1 and approx 5:1 ratio).

Vit K is a bit tricky since there are different versions. Life extension makes a good product with k1,k2, mk4 and mk7, take 1 or 2 of those a day.

Keep taking your ZMA and add in another 400mg or so of magnesium earlier in the day.

Continue with your multi vitamin.

Add DIM and calcium D glucarate for natural estrogen control.

400mcg selenium (essential for T4 to T3 conversion and cleaning up hydrogen peroxid in thyroid)
id add iodine to your supplement plan. It will force out toxic halides which can make some feel kinda crappy so you can use a liquid and go slow or just go all out from the start, personal choice. You can get iodarol tablets in 25mg or 50mg size. Alternativly "lugol" solution which is potassium iodide and iodine in liquid. Some in different percent strengths. Id try and get 5% which is 6.25mg combined iodine/iodine per drop. This will allow you to start slow and ramp up if you want, also cheaper than iodarol and work up to 50mg per day.

I would also recommend a good b complex to add to your multivitamin or at minimum something like optimox ATP cofactors which is a fairly high potency B-2/B-3 product.

I would also recommend ascorbic acid, a couple grams a few times a day along with lysine 4-5grams per day (break up into multiple doses over course of day) and 1-2 grams of proline per day. This combined with the B should help with your cholesterol.

 

[thx9000]

Prolactin based gyno can be kinda hard to arrest. Actually gyno is pretty hard to halt once you get to the point distinct nodules for over a year. There's probably some level of fibrosis at this point and there's not much you can do to reverse that. Plus there's that whole prolactin based gyno' can be tough to halt once it gets started, and that's with normal PRL levels.

I apologize if this was already asked and answered; though I didn't catch it as I was reading through...has a prolactinoma been definitively excluded?

 

[Zyglamail]

Prolactin based gyno can be kinda hard to arrest. Actually gyno is pretty hard to halt once you get to the point distinct nodules for over a year. There's probably some level of fibrosis at this point and there's not much you can do to reverse that. Plus there's that whole prolactin based gyno' can be tough to halt once it gets started, and that's with normal PRL levels.

I apologize if this was already asked and answered; though I didn't catch it as I was reading through...has a prolactinoma been definitively excluded?

Breast fibrosis is common in women all over the world and the leading cause is lack of iodine.

As far as prolactinoma goes his levels are high but generally not high enough to warrant looking for a tumor.

Good health requires solid nutrition. Any problem that has not evolved into a a specific disease(hell and even then) the first action should be making sure the body has all the nutrients it needs to properly function. Then once that is done you will more often than not find the symptoms have greatly been reduced or eliminated all together. Only then can you accurately diagnose and track down problems.

 

[bowly]

zyg trust me diagnosing an issue is the biggest probem in these third world countries..where degrees are sold to so called docs and value of life is not imp as these are hugely populated areas..

had forgotten the value of looking into nutrition before jumping to drugs..thank u zyg for giving such insight..

don't get mk4 and mk7 in india..which brand is good in the uk?

Breast fibrosis is common in women all over the world and the leading cause is lack of iodine.

As far as prolactinoma goes his levels are high but generally not high enough to warrant looking for a tumor.

Good health requires solid nutrition. Any problem that has not evolved into a a specific disease(hell and even then) the first action should be making sure the body has all the nutrients it needs to properly function. Then once that is done you will more often than not find the symptoms have greatly been reduced or eliminated all together. Only then can you accurately diagnose and track down problems.

 

[Zyglamail]

Super K with Advanced K2 Complex, 90 softgels

 

[jester72]

Lots of GREAT info in this thread Zyg. I don't think I've ever seen someone as knowledgeable as you when it comes to vitamins and supplements. It's too bad we can't sticky your posts; it's invaluable information for the community.

 

[bowly]

thank you zyg..and I agree with u jester,i am impressed by yzgs know how and the willingness to extensively help someone..thanks zyg..

going on ur supplement regime from tomo..

need to know if I need to control estro with calcium d glucorate n dim as estro is already low..

have anavite multi vitamin can I add it to the mix.

ascorbic,lysine and proline--is there a supplement having all these combined zyg..

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