Can anyone help me, im on my FIRST CYCLE!

[jochdrums]

Hey, what's up? im currently running a cycle for 12 weeks, beginning week 7 on monday!

First of all:

Im 26 y/o, weight 175 lbs, height about 5'9.

i train 5 days a week.


started my first 2 1/2 weeks running a blend of:
(1ml twice a week)

euro stack 375mg
testosterone enanthate 125mg
drostanolone enanthate 125mg
trenbolone enanthate 125mg


then i started taking this:
(1ml of each, twice a week)

euro teston 400 (testosterone propionate 30mg, testosterone isocaproate 60mg, testosterone phenylpropionate 60mg, testosterone decanoate 100mg, testosterone undecanoate 150mg)

euro boldenone 400mg (boldenone undecylenate 400mg, 10%benzyl benzoate, 0.5% benzyl alcohol)

euro trenabol 250mg (trenbolone acetate 100mg, trenbolone enanthate 150mg)


my diet havent been the best or as consistant as i wanted to, but im always trying to eat as healthy as i can.




i dont know if should i start winstrol this monday, or wait till week 9.


i hope i can get any kind of advice, opinions, and recommendations.

 

[buddhabuilder]

Please give your cycle history, bf%, and goals.

 

[jochdrums]

Oh yeah, my bad.. I was at work while doing this.. Anyways, cycle history? This is my first one, BF it's 14-18% and my mainly goal is to get cut! (I guess, just cause I want my abs popping out lol) but I also would like to get bigger, beach body kind.

The guy who provides me the roofs told me to forget about the cardio, but I'm actually feeling fatter so I think that's not working at all... I was doing cardio everyday before for 30min at least, sometimes an hour. I actually counted more the burned calories than time or something else. 500 burned calories minimum, that's what I used to do and now I'm thinking about starting tomorrow again with the cardio. But I dont know if I just look "fatter" cause of the roids and the water retention or just because of a bad diet.

I'm just really confused, if you can't tell..

 

[joeblow12345]

Bro you have waaaaaay too much going on here for a first cycle. This dude who told you to get all this shit is an idiot. This is an advanced cycle not a beginners. My advise is to stop everything and do a pct. then focus on improving your diet and training. Once you have that in order start with a basic test cycle. This guy selling you this shit just wants your money. He's not thinking about your best interest. And if he's not making money off of you he's just an idiot who doesn't know any better. Stop now before you do any permanent damage and screw yourself.

 

[jochdrums]

I have Been taking tamoxifen since week 5 at 20mg p/day and himalaya livercare 2 pills p/day, would this make a difference?????

I don't know what PCT means.

 

[LOVEOZ]

You lost me with 'my bad'.

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[Jbranken]

I have Been taking tamoxifen since week 5 at 20mg p/day and himalaya livercare 2 pills p/day, would this make a difference?????

I don't know what PCT means.

You need an ai (aromatase inhibitor) on cycle, not nolva. Arimidex or aromasin will do. But like said above, I'd drop the cycle before you screw yourself up. I can't believe the fool getting you on this gear didn't explain what pct (post cycle therapy) is. If you continue this cycle, I suggest utilizing google's search engine and figuring out just wtf you're getting into here.

 

[joeblow12345]

I have Been taking tamoxifen since week 5 at 20mg p/day and himalaya livercare 2 pills p/day, would this make a difference?????

I don't know what PCT means.

Holy shit bro. Your balls deep in a cycle and you don't know what pct is. This is a big problem. You do understand that steroids interfere with your bodies normal functions causing it to stop working on its own? Because of this, you need to do post cycle therapy in order to get it functioning on its own again. If not you will lose everything you gained and then some. Not to mention your dick isn't gonna work anymore. It's pretty hard to get laid when you have a limp noodle that's lifeless.

 

[dusteefartz]

I have Been taking tamoxifen since week 5 at 20mg p/day and himalaya livercare 2 pills p/day, would this make a difference?????

I don't know what PCT means.

WHAT!?!?!
you have no business running a cycle. Do your research instaed of listen to some fool......

 

[jochdrums]

Oh ok, he did mentioned about post cycle. And what he said is that i need a shot of 5000UI so i can get my Body to start producing natural testosterone again. I believe he also said that I needed to take this tamoxifen even 2 weeks after the cycle ended, as a PCT. same thing with the himalaya

 

[bonacris]

5000ius of what? and in all one shot.. also tamoxifen after tren is a no no.. also what is Himalaya

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[jochdrums]

5000UI meaning HCG, not sure if it is all in one shot. The himalaya its the liver protector.

I was really skinny and I've seen good changes in my body. I was weighting 155 when I started and now I'm at 174.

 

[bonacris]

5000UI meaning HCG, not sure if it is all in one shot. The himalaya its the liver protector.

I was really skinny and I've seen good changes in my body. I was weighting 155 when I started and now I'm at 174.

Why would you take liver support after cycle and not on cycle.. putting on that weight is all well and good but without a proper pct you will lose a lot of that and possibly the function of your dick with the tren. Hcg isn't pct

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[jochdrums]

Damn, now I'm really paranoic about this. Can you refer me a link or something where I can read about the whole process of a cycle and the supps that needs to be taken before and after? I will start doing my own research, but if it is that bad as you say, I need the right info now so I won't hurt myself in any way..

 

[bonacris]

Damn, now I'm really paranoic about this. Can you refer me a link or something where I can read about the whole process of a cycle and the supps that needs to be taken before and after? I will start doing my own research, but if it is that bad as you say, I need the right info now so I won't hurt myself in any way..

Read the stickies.. steroids 101 and read the stickies in the pct section aswell..

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[robph]

holy crap that's a lot of juice for the first cycle, 1st if you want to loose a substantial amount of bf% you need to be doing cardio 5 to 6 times a wk for 30-40min that's how you are going to get FAST results. you need to figure out how to diet better, cutting is all about eating right. don't worry about muscle loss, you are on the juice as long as you eat right its not going to happen. dont add anything else to your cycle, unless is part of your pct. your main problem is you diet i guarantee it. i hope this helps.

 

[lithium1189]

Drop the nolva bro... Your taking tren, 19 nors and nolva = very bad

 

[jochdrums]

19 nors? i really dont want to stop my cycle cause ive seen good results so far... Why drop the nolva? Isn't supposed to help me not to get gynecomastia?

 

[lithium1189]

Tren raises prolactin levels, which can cause gyno, taking Nolva will amplify this. You should be taking caber or prami to control this, not nolva. You defiantly need to listen to everyone here man, you're going to fuck yourself up permanently cause this dipshit didn't know shit when he sold you all this gear, or didn't give a shit. I would cut your losses now and start a PCT ASAP. Save the rest of the gear when you have everything you need, including a better understanding on how to do this safely. I am far from an AAS guru, but I know how to read and educate myself on how to go about doing a cycle safely, you need to read more. Lots of people here to help.

 

[dusteefartz]

Damn, now I'm really paranoic about this. Can you refer me a link or something where I can read about the whole process of a cycle and the supps that needs to be taken before and after? I will start doing my own research, but if it is that bad as you say, I need the right info now so I won't hurt myself in any way..

Should have done that waaaay before you started...

 

[jochdrums]

So, I'm still in the same place... Should I stop or not? Or should I just quit te nolva and keep going?

 

[joeblow12345]

So, I'm still in the same place... Should I stop or not? Or should I just quit te nolva and keep going?

I already suggested you stop. For me to tell someone to stop means you really have to be way in over your head.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Getting some N2GUARD would save a lot of worries. ANd yeah, nolva == shit.

 

[joeblow12345]

Getting some N2GUARD would save a lot of worries. ANd yeah, nolva == shit.

N2guard would help but it won't change the fact that this guy is in over his head.