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Can a man be faithful to one woman?

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I can be done but damn tough. I just try to avoid the situation. Don't put yourself in a situation where you can screw up. If you do then you most likely will.
 
it CAN be done..

it is just a matter of if the guy really wants to be faithful. If he doesn't, he will have plenty of opportunities to fuq up and eventually he will.
 
I have been 100% faithful for 18 years, and I can tell you it is very hard work. The easy thing is to give in, but I have a family and she has treated me pretty good, all things considered. Marriage has been nothing like I imagined it to be, but then again I live in fantasy land most likely.

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I cant be faithful to one woman, Ive tried, but I just cant resist the urge to sample another Broad's Juices. When Im Juicin I need kinky sex nonstop, and my girlfriend is a bit inhibited and boring in bed, so I find myself fantasizing about kinky shit with other Broads all the time when Im on gear. Especially If im on like 500 Mg Sust or somethign like that!!
 
First 18 years wow! That's a long time. I guess it can be done. Not for me though no need to be unless your
married. In my opinion a girl friend is just that a friend
that is a girl that you get to sleep w\ . I say do em
all just like Eddie Murphy says it's a man's job to concur much pussy as he can. :devil: :horny:
 
Show, it can be done!!

Takes a lot of work on BOTH parties though. Nothing is ever easy when it comes to love.

Most of my male/female pals are 100% faithful to their lover's.

The few men AND WOMEN who are not, have cheated because their spouse's/lover's have failed in keeping the other person happy. Not all the time did it revlove around sexual issues either!!!!!
 
I am 100% faithful and do not tolerate infidelity. I think that anyone who cheats should have their genitals surgically deactivated....
 
My lady and I have maintained a 9 year relationship between 2 countries (Australia and Germany). Circumstances just haven't allowed us to be together full time, but she's moving out here for good in October. (yay).

It has to be the hardest fucking thing I've ever done, but she's worth it and we both have tons of frequent flyer miles now!

Yes - I am sorely tempted to misbehave on a regular basis. Most of my friends are very attractive women and I share a mutual attraction with a few of them. Bottom line is that part of being an adult is accepting you sometimes can't have everything you want and that you have to learn to appreciate those things you have.

And if I do say so myself, I think my partner and I are both doing an outstanding job!:)
 
I can't speak for men, but I think it may even be tougher for women to reamin faithful. Although it is possible.
 
Personally, all I have ever known is monogamy. I mean, when I have been single in the past, I did try one night stands and found they weren't for me. I just found I wasn't a one nighter type of guy. So, I already know if a one night stand when I'm single won't do it for me, then I know having a one night stand by cheating on my girl would really get me no where.
 
I've been 1 year now into a long distance relationship and it's hard. I've got one more year left before we can be together again.

Some people aren't ready to just be with one person - maybe they never will.

I, for one, have found the girl I hope to have the rest of my life.
 
Well, it isn't a hard question for me. I am 100% faithful to my girlfriend. few years ago, her family decided to move to another state that was about 10 hours of driving and she chose to stay with me. Talk about sacrifice and love! So, yeah...I would have to be 100% faithful to her. Plus, there's nothing like a woman's love. Woman's love is....unexplainable. Anybody who has experienced this will know what I'm talking about. (Guys, no flaming, please :D )
 
12 years for me. It's tough and sometimes the grass is greener on the otherside it seems but I've been able to stay on my side of the fence so far.
 
I know what you mean bro....I've never cheated on a girl but recently I've had the hardest time. I walk around a college campus all day and think about sex. It's hard as hell not to walk up to any girl I think is hot and "get to know her". Damn it sucks being faithfull!!!!
 
LawDawg8 said:
I am 100% faithful and do not tolerate infidelity. I think that anyone who cheats should have their genitals surgically deactivated....

Whoa!! I'm glad there is someone else out there that is as Vehmenent about Monagomy as I am.

I don't cheat and expect NOTHING less from my partner.

If she cheats, she's out, PERIOD. As if she NEVER existed in my life.
 
wow i thought im the only one like that... but then again im only 16 but i hope i don't change in the future, i am always faitful and feel just like you 35andfeel19. She cheats, she's gone, if im faithful then why the hell can't she. :D

~WizKid :kaioken:
 
it is possible for a woman to keep her legs closed, but not for a man, and it is normal and natural for a man to sleep around, it is our biology
 
winny fan, My girl is so insecure and has this problem whereby she just never trusts me regardless. It has been like this for the seven years ive been with her so it will never change. I just dont understand. She can be very cold towards at times and there is no passion anymore which is a damn shame. I still care for her dearly but it all came to a head at the weekend just gone. I met this girl and she started telling me how great she thought I was (not happened in a long time). anyways... we got talking in the club and left together... one thing led to another and although we did not have sex I still feel damn guilty that this happened. Not sure whether it was because of the fact that my girl does not trust me (i.e. if the hat fits... where it) or I actually wanted to do what I did. Eiter way, what I did was wrong and I feel ashamed and guilty and feel sorry for both my girl and the girl I met since she seemed so nice. I did tell the girl after (about my relationship) and that was that. Damn me, how could I have been so stupid... I'm thinking about telling my girl what I did. Maybe we need to split because the trust was never there and now it would be even worse as ive commited the offence she accuses me of and she would think if ive done it once id have done it before. I have no idea what the hell to do so any advice.... (not the genital removal thing LawDog LOL) that would be good...

STUBS
 
Winny Fan - What's up dude?!?! Thanks for the re-welcome... been out bustin' people and making money... but I'm gradually littering this place up again with posts.... hehehe... thanks dawg!

35andfeel19 - Hell yeah man, I stand firm in my convictions. True, I'm no paragon of virtue or anything like that, but there are some things to which I hold fast. I am religious, and I feel that marriage is your promising to God Almighty Himself that you will be with your partner and no one else. Those who would cheat with someone whom they know is married do not respect the Lord God and a sacred covenant. I've done some things in my life that I'm not proud of, and I have an evil streak in me, don't get me wrong.... but things like trust, fidelity, and loyalty are timeless character attributes that I strive for and tolerate nothing less from anyone with whom I associate - be it friends, family, or girlfriends / wife ...

When I was single, I really got around and have literally had sex with so many women in my 27 years on this earth that there is no way I could ever count the numbers or remember all of their names. But, they all knew what I was about and that I was NOT going to commit to any of them. When I had a girlfriend, however, I pretty much stayed faithful (save occasional flirting.) And marriage - I would never cheat. Ever.
 
Ah the age old question of faithfullness......it is complicated at times, yet quite simple. Ultimately, we do what WE CHOOSE - no he said/she siad - no she neglected me BS either.

As for marriage....many of us know how tangled and difficult it can be to obtain a divorce. Would you all say that it is still cheating if:

- the two were PHYSICALLY separated. (Living in separate rooms of the same house or actual separate residences w/NO SEXUAL CONTACT WHATSOEVER.)

- one TOLD the other as they threw them out (it was either that, or have the police escort the individual to jail), "WE ARE OVER - YOU GO YOUR WAY, I GO MINE, IT IS ONLY A PIECE OF PAPER, I DO NOT FEEL THE NEED FOR THE INK TO DRY."

- the person who asked for the divorce NEVER ONCE gave a "mixed signal" that there was the REMOTEST chance that they would EVER reconcile - PERIOD!

- the final act that percipitated one leaving the domicile was PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.

- the one "with all the control and money (temporarily anyway..that is why they have courts)" is busting balls in THE WORST way because they DO NOT want the divorce even though all of the above exists.


........you guys tell me.

I had ZERO difficulty remianing faithful to my husband, even in my dreams, for 13 years PERIOD. Not that there wasn't AMPLE opportunity. When you are committed it doesn't matter how horny you are or what else is out there. Do people make mistakes because of life's complications? Yes. Can and should they be forgiven? Yes. Is infidelity a reason to end a marriage? Unless it is habitual, my answer is NO.

As for dating. That is another situation altogether. If you become sexually involved and you do NOT have your cards on the table with your partner BEFORE you engage in the act (ie - TELLING them that you are NOT looking for a commitment, etc) then you are just a slime with low self-esteem. But if you are TWO CONSENTING ADULTS and you are upfront from the getco, whether there is some form of monogomy or not is for the two of you to decide.....but remember, we are all entitled to change our minds. That is why one should understand the rammifications of their behaviour BEFORE engaging in the act. REGARDLESS of whether or not the guy or girl gives you the "I love you" and "It's forever, baby" line - BE PREPARED that it might be JUST THAT....A LINE.

...just my humble .02
 
i was with my last girlfriend for 2 1/2 years and never cheated but man did i think about it all the time. lol:D :D :D
 
As I said I have been with the same woman (wife) for 12 years. I was dating 7 different girls at the time we were goin out and had been...Juggling for several months. Got tired of juggling and gettin caught in lies. Plus the aids thing was startin to really scare me. I sowed plenty of seed and was just ready to settle down and she was the one. I find a good way to be monogomous is to think to yourself...What if she was fuckin around on me? How would I feel if I found out? Stops me cold cuz I care about her.
 
Staying faithful to my girlfriend in reality? Yes I think its possible. Staying faithful 100% to her in my mind? I honestly believe that is impossible for me. If I was 100% faithful in my mind at all times that would mean I never spank the monkey and that certainly isn't true :p . Either that or I only spank the monkey thinking of her but that is very silly and I never do that. Why would I only j/o thinking of my girlfriend when I could just have sex with her in real life :D . Seriously though, Bikinimom, maybe you are 100% faithful in your fantasies, but do you think your husband is? I HIGHLY doubt it. There's no way, gotta be impossible for a guy.
 
whateverdude

I hear ya!

I already know I'm competing with Johhny Depp in my lady's head, so it doesn't phase me one bit that other women enter mine on a regular basis!
 
I am not saying that fantasizing is not normal OR healthey...because it is! Their is NOTHING wrong w/fantasy. It is what you DO about it that matters!

Me, personally, if I had a "naughty" dream about someone other than my husband it would be a man who was TOTALLY unobtainable ie Arnold Schwarzenneger for example...like THAT would ever happen! or the man would have an AMAZING body, but NO FACE or it would be a female.....so, in essence because the people are not REAL (in other words, like a co-worker, etc somebody that I REALLY COULD END UP WITH) the way I look at it, I was faithful even in my dreams. Perhaps this is rationalization. I don't know, but it works for me.

As for my husband - hell, I would POINT out the beautiful women TO HIM! We would go to strip clubs and go-go bars, have a few drinks, get horned up and then fuck like bunnies......so why would I mind if my husband is aroused by the sight of an attractive woman? He is coming home with me and I BENEFIT! Capish?;)
 
Great post B. MOM

I've been married 5 years,dated my wife for 3 years before that.Never in all my life cheated on a "girlfriend" or my wife until earlier this year.I was gone out of town because of work for a week.All my buddies,coworkers, all went to night clubs that weekend and I declined,because thats just asking for trouble.So me and a few guys went to a strip club.No chance there right?....wrong.
I meet a nice girl in there, we talked all night.I got a little tipsy and asked if she wanted to go to breakfast.She said yes and all I will say from there is I made the most terrible mistake I've ever made.

I've never told my wife, because we are best friends.We've never had a problem.We do everything together.I know if I was to confess it would never be the same.

Just wanted to get that off my chest......I know there are'nt any excuses for what I did.It was about a 15 second window that everything went wrong.I get all twisted up in my stomach when I think about, but I could never tell my about it, because it would ruin everything.I LOVE her too much.

So tell me.Should I throw everything away because of one little mistake, that snowballed into a terrible terrible thing.:bawling:

O well, needed to get that out there, never told anyone, not anyone.

PEACE
 
SlipROCK.........Chill out !

Everyone fucks up. Forget about it ! It's great you love her so much but men are wired much different than women. If you tell her, it's all over. Women are all emotion. Whatever assets you own, you'll be giving away half. DON'T tell her. It won't solve or accomplish anything.

If you feel you need to confess, GO TO CHURCH and go to confession ! No one else needs to know because it's a small world and she WILL find out.

OK ? I hope this helps. Now, if you really like being married, take care of business, and make sure she's taking care of you.

Peace.
 
Bikinimon,

I read your two posts on the subject and I agree with just about everything you said except this.

bikinimom said:
Is infidelity a reason to end a marriage? Unless it is habitual, my answer is NO.

For me, That would be the end.

I guess, maybe, I'm a little bit of a hard liner on this one subject. Maybe it is related to how I feel about and percieve Sex.
 
I respect your feelings brotha....and I will not try and change your mind. But when one has so much invested in a relationship (and I am not talking "He's really BEEN THERE for me" bullshit). I am talking 10+ years, a mortgage, 3 kids, 2 cars, a history, extended family etc and so forth - obviously there was a slow erosion that brought the relationship to the point where one or both stepped outside the confines of their marital commitment. I strongly believe that the sex is THE LEAST of the trouble. That is why I do not believe that an infidelity necessarily demands the end of the marriage.

Sex can be the closest that two separate humans come to being one.....it can also be the most meaningless act performed by two individuals who happen to be in the same place at the same time engaging in the act for THEIR OWN REASONS.

What would kill me MORE is a breach of trust or an emotional infidelity......these are not so cut and dry and not so tangible matters - thereby making it MUCH MORE difficult to mend once it has been broken down.

Just my .02
 
Ya you can be 100% faithful. If you love the girl to the point where you look at other girls with about the same interest as ones in movies or on television. ie, You note that they are pretty but that is all the farther you ever go with it.

Cheating is a fucking selfish bullshit act to commit against someone you supposedly love.
 
I can see where you're coming from, Bikinimom, and though you make a good point, are well-spoken, and intelligent, I must disagree. I view sexual relations IN A MARRIAGE from the two extremes - as one of the vanguards of fidelity and the other as the last bastion of true committment. Now, if it's just a relationship then MAYBE I could see your point... but my religious convictions preclude me from agreeing with your statement where vows have been exchanged.... Again, I'm no paragon of virtue, but that's just one thing I take VERY seriously.....
 
I agree. If i was ever cheated on no matter what the reason. Marriage over. I could NEVER have trust for that person again.
 
I guess, for me, SEXUAL infidelity IS a Breach of TRUST as well as an EMOTIONAL infidelity.

An interesting observation that I have made in the past but does continue to prove true.

In situations of marrital or NON-marital infidelity women tend to be a hell-of-allot more forgiving than men. I'm not sure why and I'm sure that there are many exceptions to this rule but it has been MY observation.

I don't have a real good understanding of WHY this is the case.

Maybe someone could "Enlighten" me.

As far as I'm concerned, excuses like these are complete bullshit!!!

"He/She meant NOTHING to me" and

"I was Drunk and didn't know what I was doing" I really like this one. I don't know about the rest of the guys on this site but if I'm so drunk that I don't know what I'm doing, Mr Freindly goes on strike.


Like I said, I tend to be a bit of a "Hard Liner". Not for religeous reasons like LAWDAWG but simply because, I feel, infidelity demostrates a serious lack of respect and is a irrepairable breach of trust.

What is a relationship without Trust or Respect. Can Love even exist in an environment like that?

I know, A BUNCH of the "Bros" on this site are gonna be sayin. "Mann, that 35andfeel19 ain't a guy, He's a bitch pretending to be a guy" Believe me I know. Some of my closest longtime friends are women and there have been occasions where subjects like this and others come up. The typical response I get is. " You sound JUST like a woman".


"Monogamy is what I offer, I expect nothing less. If she isn't happy in the relationship, cut the bullshit, don't play games, be honest and move on.

Anyhoo, To each his/her own.

Ok, My soapbox is starting to get worn out. I'll stop. :)
 
Sure, it's possible. But, right now, I don't know if it's worth it. I was in a long-distance relationship for the last year and I was completely faithful. I had plenty of opportunities, too. But did I take them? NO! Turns out that the lying, cheating cunt took her opportunity though. Moral of the story: why the fuck didn't I take those opportunities?
 
It is hard for a man, and maybe when you are in the stage of being deep inloved it is easy not to look other femmes, but when that phase goes, it is harder, more if you take in consideration that men are not necessarily bonding feelings with sex, we can love deeply a girl and have sex with another feeling nothing but passion with her, and it seems women cant, when they cheat 99% is due to the fact they love you not, or they dont find what they are looking for in her man, so even when it is a little MACHO way to see things I think men and women have different needs, anyway if cheating cause a big conflict or will carry out consequences you cant handle then think it twice :smash:
 
Yes it is possible to be faithful, even when your wife hasn't been. If it is true love, you will give it a chance and hope for the best. What ever will be, will be....
Cheers!:) :)
 
A wise man once said:

"Infidelity is the spice of life. If not for cheating, would we know the virtues of monogamy? Or would we all join hands in a circle of life and proceed to drink from the cup of love, which was filled with sulphuric acid?"
 
I never strayed once in six years of marriage. Then last January, I busted her with a lingerie purchase on her debit card an hour before she was supposed to get a papsmear.. rotflmao.. yeah... So a month ago the day before my ex moved out I nailed a 24 year old blonde with huge tits and then went home to the little lady..
Anyhow, I honestly believe I did it to not get even but to make it so she didn't have to feel guilty about foolling around once. Not sure really.
 
LADIES OF THE BOARD

DO YOU THINK YOU CAN BE FAITHFUL?
HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN?
WOULD YOU ACCEPT YOUR MEN FOOLS AROUND ONCE IN A WHILE ?

I would like to know

:smash:
 
Married Men......

Seriously, why should a man get married ?

What's the advantage for us ? What's in it for us ?

Most of us know what's in it for women. The list is long and impressive.
 
For men it should be allowed to get casual pussy every now and then. EVEN if they are married. Fuck... the sex can be boring if you are always with the same girl. There's no way how some boring "pour syrup to your girlfriends pussy and lick it" or "put on a catsuit" advice could make sex interesting... :D

Could you name some cultures where it's allowed to have multiple partners and everybody accepts that??
 
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Rimmer.....You've hit on one of my points. So why should a man get married ? To have sex with the same woman until the day one of them dies ?

Even if you're married and the wife "lets" you have sex with other women she may wake up one day and say "Divorce". Then you give her half of everything you own. Including future income. No ah ah.
 
its almost impossible at least for me i should say it is impossible i have a baby with another woman my wife knows we have been married 12 yrs
 
Mtime1 said:
Married Men......

Seriously, why should a man get married ?

What's the advantage for us ? What's in it for us ?

Most of us know what's in it for women. The list is long and impressive.

You have GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!

Yea, indentured servitude....sounds REAL ATTRACTIVE! He gets fat, bald, demanding and dumber with each passing day....oh wait, then you get STUCK cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children and because you are a "liberated woman and this is the new millenium"..you also get to go out and earn a living!!! Then when you get tired of being abused you decide you would rather be alone and free then "taken care of" (YEA RIGHT) and married....you ask for a divorce, get dragged through the mud because you are a low-life lazy whore who never did JACK SHIT and FUCK if you are getting ANYTHING...and on top of that - HE WANTS CUSTODY, though he has NEVER even cut the kids' fingernails!

OH YEA - the list is long and impressive INDEED! I can't wait for my daughters to run right out and tie the knot! Hell, marriage is sooooooooo beneficial for women that I think I will get them "betrothed" NOW because I never EVER want them to be ANYBODY...except maybe MRS NOBODY SLAVE.....yea, where do I sign?!

*DEEP BREATH*

I feel so much better now.
 
hey the woman i have the baby with was a personal trainer at my gym what can i say she wanted to train with me and onething led to another now she is gettin my juice money:(
 
Wow..glad you feel better bikinimom.

Well, if the woman marries someone who can support her and her kids, if she, or she and he, decide to have kids, then the picture is quiet different.

Once in a while on a day off during the week I stop in at Starbucks. Who's there ? Mom's and their babies. Sipping cappuccinos, and talking gossip.

They can do that because their husbands MUST work. The women have chosen not to take a job outside the home. The man has no choice. He will always have to work. Kids or not. Wife or not.

Now, if she's unhappy, she divorces, takes the child support, alimony, house, etc., and re-marries.

I can go on.....
 
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The simple fact is that Marriage has BENEFITS for both parties. There is also the downside BUT that is with EVERYTHING, not just marriage.

If a guy considers being STUCK with one PUSSY for all enternity a bad thing then PLEASE don't get married because if you do and you DO have kids and you do CHEAT you ARE going to get taken to the cleaners. PERIOD, END of story.

It's funny if you think about it, Women see men as having the better part of the relationship. Getting to go to work, socialise with ADULTS, have a career.

Men see women as having the better part, Getting to stay home, watch TV, talk on the phone, go to lunch with the girls, hang out.

The reality is quite a bit different for both parties.

Frankly, I think women have the shitty side of the deal and I consider myself damn lucky to be a man.

In any event, Marriage is NOT what sucks, Divorce SUCKS.

I'm sorry that things aren't going well for you Bikinimon. :(
I hope it gets better soon. Take care and hang in there.

The simple fact of the matter is, Men are morons and seldom realise how good we have it.
 
Mtime1 said:
Wow..glad you feel better bikinimom.

Well, if the woman marries someone who can support her and her kids, if she, or she and he, decide to have kids, then the picture is quiet different.

Once in a while on a day off during the week I stop in at Starbucks. Who's there ? Mom's and their babies. Sipping cappuccinos, and talking gossip.

They can do that because their husbands MUST work. The women have chosen not to take a job outside the home. The man has no choice. He will always have to work. Kids or not. Wife or not.

Now, if she's unhappy, she divorces, takes the child support, alimony, house, etc., and re-marries.

I can go on.....

When is the last time YOU went to Starbucks WITH A BABY and decided to "shoot the shit" with your friends? I can tell you FROM EXPERIENCE......this image does NOT conjure up visions of "YEA, THAT IS THE LIFE FOR ME!!!" ANY activity WITH KIDS can be a fucking nightmare! PERIOD! Anyone who says different is either a liar, delusional or just plain fucking ignorant!

Oh yes, I forgot taking care of the house and all the responsibilities that go with it and being largely responsible for the physical, emotional and spiritual wellbeing of another human being 24/7 IS NOT A JOB...IT IS FUN! And the benefits are BEYOND COMPREHENSION! NO VACATION, NO SICK DAYS, NO PAY INCREASES (BECAUSE YOU DON'T FUCKING GET ANY PAY...Oh wait a minute, when your spouse comes through the door after a "hard" day and says, "And just what did YOU do all day?" with an accusatory tone, as if you sat on your ass and ate fucking bon-bons - THAT IS YOUR PAY!

While the POOR MAN HAS to work! (Do you hear the world's smallest violin?) He gets to leave the house UNENCUMBERED and come home whenever he gets home NEVER HAVING TO FEAR FOR THE SAFETY AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING OF HIS CHILD! Could you put a price on that?...BECAUSE I SURE FUCKING CAN'T!

PUH-LEASE! Any man who even REMOTELY thinks that thier lives suck because they have to bring home a paycheck while thier wives have it easy "staying home on their asses with the kids" CAN KISS MY ROCK HARD ASS!


*Deep Breath*

I feel SOOOOOO much better now.
 
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35andfeel19 said:

The simple fact of the matter is, Men are morons and seldom realise how good we have it.

AMEN, BROTHA....AAAAAAAMEN!

And thank you for your kind sentiments. It means a lot. Times are tough, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel....as long as I have my health and my girls are with me and they are alright - NOTHING CAN HURT US.
 
Mtime1 said:
Married Men......

Seriously, why should a man get married ?

What's the advantage for us ? What's in it for us ?

Most of us know what's in it for women. The list is long and impressive.

listen marrage if done right is a sacred bond of 2 loving people, the advantage is you find a life long partner, friend, conpanion, ect.

whats in it for us is happiness, by the way this is the 21 century and women and men are supposed to be equal
my future wife (my current girlfriend) will mostlikely make more than me, we have decided we do not want kids

so if i were to look at it in your superficial term
\whats in it for her, but marriage has no monatary label
so it shouldnt matter
 
Preach it bikinimom. "Stay at home" moms are unfortunately becoming less of a kind. At least a husband who works during the day has a chance to escape it all (at least for a little while), as opposed to the mom who NEVER gets a f#@$ break. Oh, and about kissing that rock hard ass....
 
You said a mouthful BMom - I just got home from visiting my parents - they became new grandparents last week too! My mom is a 21st century mom - takes very little shit from dad, but amazingly I still see dad coming home from golf (they're retired now) and still sits down, grabs the paper and asks when is dinner ready and what is for dinner. I almost said "Dad, we're having soy chicken tonite - want some??"

I'm only 35 - I've been "invited to leave" a golf course for being female by an old fart working the greens (told him to F off) and was also told I'd never make it my field of study (physics) because I was a girl by the dean of the physics dept in college. (Also an old fart.) Interestingly, I chose to not play golf and prefer to heft iron around the gym and I also graduated with my BS in Physics cum laude, with a scholarship towards a PhD. (Of course I had the sense to change my field of study to computer science after the Challenger blew up - sort of stifled the astrophysics job market there...)

OK - I went on a wimmen's lib rant there for a minute. ..

I jokingly say I am looking for the guy who will bear my children, but I truly live for the day I can find a guy who is my equal and worth my time, effort and affection. I have very little time these days for one-nighters and can pick out an asshole a mile away. (FL is crawling w/ them.)

I think cheating is simply an expression of other problems w/ a marriage that have come to a head. The "us" became "you" and "me" and one of the two decided to turn to someone else for solace or attention. I think for women the act of physical cheating is not as bad as the implied breach of trust by going to another woman for the attention, confiding in someone else. For men the physical act is the breach of trust. However women may be more forgiving because there are so many that still completely believe in full dependence upon the man and may actually be in that position with no job, responsibility for the kids and not much else to start a new life with.

I personally have never cheated on anyone while I was dating them. I believe if I were ever married and was tempted to cheat, I'd skip the actual cheat opportunity and take it as a signal that something was severly lacking in my existing relationship and deal w/ that first.
 
Ah....Bikinimon.......you don't........by any chance......ah.......er.......well.......ah........you don't own any guns do you?

:)
 
Thank you, Sassy for putting my "rage" :kaioken: into much more civilized words. I just get so DAMNED sick and tired of men belly-aching about HOW MUCH marriage sucks for them and "how we get it all".

Growing up I watched my mother bust her behind (not saying that my dad didn't work) while my dad held all the cards. Did she wear the pants? To some degree, she did, because if she was not happy - NOBODY WAS HAPPY!......guess how happy we all were? I think you are all smart enough to figure out the answer to that question.

I always said that I would NEVER BECOME HER and despite my most conscious efforts to do the opposite - I DID BECOME HER (to varying degrees). This has just dawned on me most recently and I must accept responsibility for the subconscious sabotaging I did of my own adult life and figure out a way to NOT have my daughters do the same.

It is a bitter pill to swallow, I admit. But I guess that self-awareness is the first step.

I apologize for my harsh tone....Uhmmmmmm, wait a minute, NO I DON'T - I didn't say anything wrong and the tone was appropriate. So for you guys out there who think us women have this looooooong laundry list of benefits to marriage (when childrearing is involved...if you have no children then it doesn't really matter, now does it?) I defy you to show me ONE EXAMPLE of a "stay-at-home MOM" (GOD, I HATE THAT TERM...should be more like "imprisoned and devalued MOM") who has "the LIFE" while her POOR UNFORTUNATE husband's life is so miserable that we should all gather round him and stone the poor bastard to death and just end his suffering now......I will SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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Conan69.....If marriage is done right....

Problem is in this country more than half the people who are married don't do it right. They end up in divorse and that's where the men who have supported the family gets screwed.

I wish we could get it right and I don't know exactly why we don't. I hope you do.

I think part of the problem is that men and women are NOT equals. We are mentally, internally "wired" differently. Physically we are not equals. Not to say men are supperior. There are many things men should not do that women can do.

In any parnership, personal or business, one person has to have 51 % say. One person has to make the final decision. If there is a major decision to be made the man should talk with his partner and discuss all options and consider his partners opinion and feelings if opposit of his. Ultimately the responsibility should lye on the mans shoulders.

Good luck bro.
 
bikinimom said:
OH YEA - the list is long and impressive INDEED! I can't wait for my daughters to run right out and tie the knot! Hell, marriage is sooooooooo beneficial for women that I think I will get them "betrothed" NOW because I never EVER want them to be ANYBODY...except maybe MRS NOBODY SLAVE.....yea, where do I sign?!

*DEEP BREATH*

I feel so much better now.

I love you.
 
Mtime1 said:
Conan69.....If marriage is done right....

Problem is in this country more than half the people who are married don't do it right. They end up in divorse and that's where the men who have supported the family gets screwed.

THE MEN WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE FAMILY?!?!?!?! WTF?!?!? Do you have ANY IDEA how much it would cost to have someone, cook, clean, to laundry, etc, etc and care for YOUR CHILD the way only a parent could?! (Notice I did NOT use the word "mother"? I firmly believe that if that is what the couple decides, the MAN could do just as good a job if not better at being the primary care-taker for a child....the fact that someone is in possession of breasts does not automatically mean that someone would be better qualified to care for a child!)

I think part of the problem is that men and women are NOT equals. We are mentally, internally "wired" differently. Physically we are not equals. Not to say men are supperior. There are many things men should not do that women can do.

In any parnership, personal or business, one person has to have 51 % say. One person has to make the final decision. If there is a major decision to be made the man should talk with his partner and discuss all options and consider his partners opinion and feelings if opposit of his. Ultimately the responsibility should lye on the mans shoulders. [/B]

Uuuummm, correction - you DID just say that the man IS superior!

And you are INCORRECT in the business thing. No one NEEDS to have 51% of ANYTHING - my husband and I own a business and guess what?! I have EXACTLY 50%. Am I the one that makes all the major decisions? Am I the one that even gets included on the day-to-day minor decisions, like say....where that outlet will be place? NO. The point is that while he is out turning the screwdriver, I am home caring for OUR children in a way that NO ONE CAN PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON...however, I am sure that if a lawyer tried hard enough - he/she COULD.

The reason that many marriages today do NOT work out is because of men like you. (No Offense) But you do not have CLUE ONE about the difficulties of family life. So I suggest that you keep your ears open and your mouth closed.

True, there are waaaaaaay too many women out their that have delusions of granduer about what married life is all about. They do spend FAR MORE time picking out their china patterns and worrying about who will sit next to whom else at the reception than what the fuck she will do if she or her husband loses their job and suddenly they can not make the mortgage payment. Would he back her up if she changed her mind after being home with the baby after 6 months and decided that she would like to try and go back to work? Or conversely, would he support her decision to QUIT work and stay home with the baby (even though her income is substantial) because she feels that money is not NEARLY as important as the ever-quickly shrinking window of time when her child will need her like at NO OTHER time in his/her life? Would she be able to deal w/the financial strain if he decided he was not happy working upper level management and pulling over 6 figures, but wanted to try and pursue his passion for carpentry or art?

HELLO PEOPLE?! THERE ARE NO BLACK & WHITE ISSUES HERE!

One of the reasons that the divorce rate is so high is because women are sick and tired of being treated like shit and feel that they would rather struggle on thier own and be free than to stay in a miserable but "comfotable" life ....for the "sake of the kids". I firmly believe that it is far better for children to be parented by separate people who are not HELL-BENT on making each other miserable and can focus on the children than for them to grow up in a household where the anger and resentment only builds with time, thus causing the parents to be caught up in thier own BULLSHIT making it TOO EASY for the parents to ignore what is REALLY IMPORTANT....THE KIDS.

If this were a perfect world, couples would do what IS THE HARDEST = STAY TOGETHER AND TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT. But this is not always possible as it HAS TO COME FROM BOTH PARTIES INVOLVED. Many say they tried....but when only one is really willing to do the work - that is only delaying the inevitable.

....just my .02
 
bikinimom....you make several points I completely agree with. I think more women should follow your footsteps and keep things in order at home. Forget about the other careers, the one at home with the kids is the most rewarding. I believe most men would do a really shitty job at staying home with the kids. Otherwise I think more would.

When I said the men who have supported the family I meant financially. To give the family all the material things they need and secure them financially for the future.

As far as 50/50 partners...no way. What happens when you come to an impasse ? Get an arbitrator ? One person gives in ? Not everything can be compromise.

I also believe too many women don't have a clue what married life is really all about. Too many fairy tails.
 
Nice thoughts, but it's a fact that I cum in a heartbeat with another woman, but with my gf it takes fucking HOURS. I guess I have to start asking access to the backdoor from my gf... LOL :D
 
We know this guy at gold gym who thinks he gets away with cheating 2 women! He is so rude

He has this long term relationship with this beautiful babe and has been with her for over 4 years, He cheated last year on her with this other woman that is
like an amazon and not as pretty but ok.

The amazing part is that he told his girfriend specifically he needed his "space" but did not want her to date others but to wait for him. He is very jealous if another man looks at her! He controlled her to the point where he would be with the other woman at his gym giving her all the love and attention, going back to her place, and banging her, then he would go home and then call his girlfriend at 10:30ish and have her spend the night. ALl this time he woudl unplug his phone while she stayed over and tell her over and over he is not w/ anyone else since she was with him every night!

It's get better! His girlfriend was put through hell and over 9 months of lies! He finally got caught, but then swore it was over! After he swore it was over, he still has his girl come over to prove to her he was true, meanwhile he never ended the realtionship with the lesser woman at the gym! And he had both women beleiveing the other woman was not arond! He then did the unspeakable, be planned a romantic vacation with the girl at the gym, telling his "still girlfriend" that he was going on a business trip. The night before he lfet, he goes to see his girlfriend, bangs her again , as every night, then leaves the next day to Cancun w/ the gym girl! His girlfriend passed them on the road to the airport and found out the hard way! He left for Cancun for 10 days, knowing the pain his girlfreind was in and banged the gym gilr day and night. When he got back, he chased his girlfriend down, since she had nothig to do w/ him, called her over 40 x in 1 dy, and when he confronted her, he said to her face, "i was confused, she and i went as freinds, we didn't have sex, ... Then, 3 weeks later, his girlfriend and he went to Cancun as well to get away and put behind the lie. They had sex day and night...she thought he had ended his affair. But, when he gets back, the night of his birthday, they get home, he asks her to leave so that he could "sleep alone: and goes over to the gym girls home for his birthday treat! Now, how horrible can a man be.

That was last summer, when he swore to his girlfriend that the gym girl and he were done, she and him went away on trips and spenr Newyears together starting over again. But he still was seeing other woman! On Valentines, he took the gym girl out first, then went to his girlfriends home, begging for sex and then had her stay over. He constantly was havin sex w/ his girlfriend and made her dance late nightsa to entertain him all the time saying to her, he is not sexual w/ this other woman and if he sees her, he speaks to her as a friend. He told his girlfriend that his ties with the gym girl were really over this time. But he kept seeing them both!

And what blows my mind is that his girlfriend would stay over and he banged her constantly, then he would say there is no way he is with anyone else sinc he is sleeping with her.

To this day, he has hurt his girlfriend by saying he wants to date around, but stil lsee her for sex! ANd he treats her like shit, while still seeign the gyum girl who has no clue of his lies and what he does when she is not around!
 
Yep...bikinimom is right. I just wonder how the poster knows ALL the details. First hand knowledge possibly? This guy either looks like a God or is the worlds greatest lover or makes mint. That is my guess. Either that or the story is mostly bullshit?
 
I didn't want to post on this thread cause i've been too lazy to read every post, but i just want to say that i've seen guys be faithful and get screwed, and vice versa. And have yet to meet a couple that has been totally faithful to each other.
 
I always thought the answer was no... but I've met this
incredible woman who has made me clearly rethink that
answer.

We are of course just dating, although its pretty serious,
but I don't think that I would do anything to risk losing
this girl....

so now i think... YES, a guy can be faithful to just one
woman
 
When you have your secret affair the only thing that changes is in your head.
When you admit to your secret affair because of what is in your head you change what is in your partners head.
When the changing in the head makes you not the same people it can ither be a good thing or bad.
The first change matters to your perspective and how well you understand yourself, this will vary greatly.
The second change, should you force this through admission, is the same but also requires an understnading of you for anything good to come out of it.
The truth may be it is possible and easy to be faithful if you want to be, WHEN THE OPPERTUNITY TO NOT BE PRESENTS ITSELF and you resist.
It may also be true that sex with another is not realy being unfaithful. As I said to an ex-partner...I was practising for her....it nearly washed as well...Oh, my girlfreind has just advised that I said it to her as well....I don't remember.
I am faithful to my girlfreind for four reasons....

1) She lets me screw anyone else I want....so, in order to respect this huge leeway, I don't (seriously).
2) She is a nymphomaniac and I find getting a hard on is associated with fear.
3) I tend not to get the opportunity, look for the opportunity or want it to find me.
4) I practice certain disciplines that enable me to keep my fantasies about my girlfreind...

I am therefore a rampant womaniser, who just does not let himslef get round to it, and therefore don't realise how faithfull I am.

Good...I have deluded myself
 
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