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California Bill Would Force Hiring of Cross-Dressers/Transvestites

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Bill would force hiring of cross-dressers
WorldNetDaily | April 21, 2003

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – The Democrat-controlled California Assembly passed a bill today mandating fines of up to $150,000 against business owners – including Bible bookstores and nonprofit organizations such as the Boy Scouts – for refusing to hire cross-dressing and transsexual job applicants.

After more than 45 minutes of debate, with a majority of speakers opposing the bill, AB 196 passed the Assembly by the narrowest of margins. The vote was 41 to 34, the bare minimum needed to advance the bill to the state Senate. All the "yes" votes on AB 196 were from Democrats. Voting "no" were 31 Republicans and three Democrats – Lou Correa of Santa Ana, Nicole Parra of Bakersfield and Sarah Reyes of Fresno. Abstaining were Republican Bonnie Garcia of El Centro and four Democrats: Ed Chavez of La Puente, Jerome Horton of Inglewood, Barbara Matthews of Stockton and George Nakano of Torrance.


Authored by homosexual Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, AB 196 would insert a new definition of "gender" into the powerful state Fair Employment and Housing Act. The bill's subjective definition of "gender" is "identity, appearance, or behavior, whether or not that identity, appearance, or behavior is different from that traditionally associated with the victim's sex at birth."

Leno has cited reports from the National Center for Lesbian Rights, the San Francisco Department of Public Health and several other studies that have documented widespread discrimination against what he calls "transgender people."

"In San Francisco studies indicate that the unemployment rate for transgender people is 70 percent" Leno said. "Every Californian deserves the right to a job and to a home. "We must do everything in our power to protect such fundamental human rights," he said.

AB 196 would force employers to allow male employees to wear women's clothes and deny religious business owners to follow their own moral convictions opposing cross-dressing or sex changes.

"We're going to use the might of government to come forward at this point of time and say you can be fined over a hundred thousand dollars if for some reason the image you want to put forward in your business does not comport to how an employee wants to dress," said Assemblyman Rick Keene of Chico. "I'm urging a 'no' vote."

Assemblyman John Campbell of Irvine was one of several members who spoke about how AB 196 further harms California businesses.

"This (bill) talks about 'gender,' but in the concept of the individual's perception of their gender, thereby making that protected class something that can change, can come in and out, can go back and forth and is not identifiable through any physical attribute," he said. "This bill will cause untold lawsuits, untold new problems in the workplace and further denies the right of businesses to earn your patronage."

Also speaking against AB 196 was Dennis Mountjoy of Monrovia.

"If I have a Christian bookstore, how could I possibly follow this law?" he asked. "How could I possibly have an employee that's here today in a dress, tomorrow may come in a suit, and then stay in a dress? How can I possibly employ this employee and still have the Christian bookstore and live by my faith?"

"You are messing with people's perception of their souls and their afterlife," said Assemblyman Ray Haynes of Temecula. "You are telling people who sincerely and strongly believe in a faith that they cannot exercise that faith without being forced into bankruptcy or not owning property or not starting a business! You are imposing your belief on what you think their faith ought to say."

Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, is so far remained silent on AB 196.

"This bill would give drag queens unprecedented power to persecute the Boy Scouts and religious businesses, even the power to shut down a Bible bookstore," said Randy Thomasson, executive director of Campaign for California Families, a statewide nonprofit, nonpartisan family issues leadership organization. "People aren't going to sacrifice their dearly-held values. What small business or nonprofit organization could financially survive a government investigation and a $150,000 penalty? AB 196 is grossly intolerant of religious freedom and the Boy Scouts. This radical bill engages in reverse discrimination and would do real harm to persons of conscience."
 
a 38 billion dollar debt, and this is all this state can think about?

these democrats/liberals are going to fuck up this state so bad, that once the republicans take over, it will be theirs for a LONG time.

here frackal, this is some current events that lay out how the left doesnt give a flying fuck about personal freedom.
 
And I agree with you, this is excessively moronic and intrusive.

But the Waco issue is still more important in overall scope IMO
 
Unbelievable. Why would you want to hire one of these fucking freaks? I would pnly hire one if i was in the business of testing for bio weapons or mine sweeping or something.
 
Hee hee it would be interesting to see who would be "detected" as a tranny and who would not.

The Transvestite Boy Scouts. Maybe they can have htier own troupe, instead of survival skills, football and cookie selling they can do, tap dancing, hair styling and ballet.

Ballet is very good for the legs y'know, Builds lots of endurance strength in the calves and hamstrings :).
 
p0ink said:
a 38 billion dollar debt, and this is all this state can think about?

This is the benefit of state's rights over federal control. The state of California can pass as much retarded legislation it and it's people wish, causing more people to leave and fewer new resident immigration (legal mind you), which will cause more financial hardships on the state. Those who move are moving to states that they feel are more conducive to their beliefs, while California will be an example of failed socialistic ideology.

If this were federally mandated, one would have to accept this or move to another country, which is less likely than simply moving to another state.
 
atlantabiolab said:


This is the benefit of state's rights over federal control. The state of California can pass as much retarded legislation it and it's people wish, causing more people to leave and fewer new resident immigration (legal mind you), which will cause more financial hardships on the state. Those who move are moving to states that they feel are more conducive to their beliefs, while California will be an example of failed socialistic ideology.

If this were federally mandated, one would have to accept this or move to another country, which is less likely than simply moving to another state.

Very true. I am waiting for this state to kick the bucket. But then liberals wouldnt accept responsibility anyway.
 
Too bad....California is truly a magnificent state from a geological and climatological viewpoint. If it were not so screwed up, perhaps everyone would live there.
 
what crap. I especially enjoy this communist/socialist statement.

"Every Californian deserves the right to a job and to a home. "We must do everything in our power to protect such fundamental human rights,"

I'd like to nominate a Benz and an SUV for next on the list of "Human Rights"
 
ariolanine said:
what crap. I especially enjoy this communist/socialist statement.

"Every Californian deserves the right to a job and to a home. "We must do everything in our power to protect such fundamental human rights,"

I'd like to nominate a Benz and an SUV for next on the list of "Human Rights"

lol. When are people gonna realise. You dont deserve a house and a job. Those arent your fundamental rights. You deserve the opportunity to get a job and a house. That is your american born right. Opportunity is your right, not the result of it. Assholes.
 
We will all rejoice when the Big one hits and California slides into the Sea.


No offense CA brolys...
I'll give you a heads up right before so you can Haul Ass first.
 
as already stated, this is just going to give those living in california reason #587 to move away.

these politicians are killing their own economy in the name of political correctness.

serves them right.

i dont see how these people can continue to elect democrats....oh wait, i know. it's because of their seething hatred for republicans/conservatives.

oh well, let that state implode.
 
as i was saying...

State Budget: Controller Could Issue 'IOU's' to Vendors Amid Budget Crisis

It would be a worse case scenario, but the state could begin writing IOU's to pay the bills if lawmakers don't nail down a fiscal budget and the state technically runs out of money in a few weeks. A field poll found that the majority of Californians are skeptical about whether Gov. Gray Davis or the Legislature will do what's needed to fix the problem.

Back from the holiday break, state lawmakers have a tall order as they are charged with coming up with a fiscal budget or the state could technically go completely broke.

In fact, financial conditions are such that the state controller could begin the budget process by issuing 'IOU's' to vendors doing business with the state.That notion of IOU's is not sitting too well with LA County Supervisor Zev Yarohslaviski who told KFWB that there is no existing budget and that issuing deferred payment notices to vendors is equivalent to a "handshake with a pauper."

"Where's the light at the end of the tunnel and how will we redeem these IOU's?" Yarohslaviski said, adding that the controller's possible contingency plan is irresponsible.

Other critics call the idea a "job killer" and say it's ridiculous to essentially tell vendors 'We'll pay you later.'

Vital services in the state that could be affected by the crisis include hospitals and jails as well as state food Inspection and prosecutorial offices.

Four months of wrangling have produced an impasse between Democrats and Republicans in the State Assembly.

Meanwhile, as the state's fiscal crisis grows worse, Californians' confidence in state leaders wanes, a new Field Poll shows.

The Field Poll released Tuesday found the majority of Californians are skeptical about whether Gov. Gray Davis or the Legislature will do what's needed to fix the problem.

By a ratio of nearly 2-to-1, poll participants also said higher taxes will be part of a solution to fill a budget gap that could hit $34.6 billion. Sixty-one percent of Californians -- including 54 percent of Republicans -- believe taxes will have to be raised. Republican lawmakers, however, have said they will not vote for a budget plan that includes tax hikes.

"I think the public has already absorbed the bad news," said Mark DiCamillo, director of the Field Poll. "They are expecting tax increases and large budget cuts from what they are hearing coming out of Sacramento."

Californians, however, largely reject plans to borrow money to be paid back during the next fiscal year. Sixty percent don't like the idea of putting off part of the problem until next year and only 26 percent said it is a good idea.

Meanwhile, confidence in California lawmakers has waned. Only 9 percent of Californians say they have a great deal of confidence that Davis will do what's right to resolve this year's state budget deficit. Thirty percent say they have some confidence, while the majority -- 58 percent -- doesn't have much confidence in him at all.

Confidence in Davis mimics that of 10 years ago, during the last budget crisis when Republican Pete Wilson was governor.

The news comes just a week after the San Francisco-based pollsters found that Davis' approval rating had reached the lowest point of any California governor in 55 years. Nearly half of the voters said they would toss him from office if a recall bid makes it to the ballot later this year.

The state's opinion of its Legislature is also bad. Only 7 percent of the poll respondents say they have confidence that the Legislature will do what's right, while 42 percent have very little confidence.

The results of the latest poll are based on a statewide survey of 502 California adults conducted April 1-6. There's a sampling error of plus or minus 4.2 percentage points.

Associated Press Contributed to this report

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ariolanine said:
what crap. I especially enjoy this communist/socialist statement.

"Every Californian deserves the right to a job and to a home. "We must do everything in our power to protect such fundamental human rights,"

I'd like to nominate a Benz and an SUV for next on the list of "Human Rights"

The crux of socialism: by virtue of your existence you may lay claim to the property of others and government's function is to assist in the confiscation of property.
 
mark my words...

when the 2004 election comes around, the democrats are going to attempt to somehow blame california's financial situation on bush.
 
atlantabiolab said:


This is the benefit of state's rights over federal control. The state of California can pass as much retarded legislation it and it's people wish, causing more people to leave and fewer new resident immigration (legal mind you), which will cause more financial hardships on the state. Those who move are moving to states that they feel are more conducive to their beliefs, while California will be an example of failed socialistic ideology.

If this were federally mandated, one would have to accept this or move to another country, which is less likely than simply moving to another state.

i agree with you, except for the fact that californians will
expect the rest of us, ala the federal tax dollar, to subsidize
their stupidity...

take the current energy crisis out there for example...
 
bwood said:


i agree with you, except for the fact that californians will
expect the rest of us, ala the federal tax dollar, to subsidize
their stupidity...

take the current energy crisis out there for example...

Agreed. The Marxist vein that runs through that state will drive them to claim that all of their financial ruin is from the evil business owners, the exploiter of the "people".
 
bwood said:


i agree with you, except for the fact that californians will
expect the rest of us, ala the federal tax dollar, to subsidize
their stupidity...

take the current energy crisis out there for example...


thats a pretty blatant misrepresentation. The vast majority of califronians weren't necessarilly for deregulation (which actually was a gesture toward competition albeit in a very imperfect market); steve peace had an agenda and got it. The millions of a californians suffer as a result; meanwhile corporations and other states screw californians aka capitalize, enron included.

I don't agree with the socialistic attitude of california politics, but atleast cite things that are somehow related.
 
collegiateLifter said:



thats a pretty blatant misrepresentation. The vast majority of califronians weren't necessarilly for deregulation (which actually was a gesture toward competition albeit in a very imperfect market); steve peace had an agenda and got it. The millions of a californians suffer as a result; meanwhile corporations and other states screw californians aka capitalize, enron included.

I don't agree with the socialistic attitude of california politics, but atleast cite things that are somehow related.


Other states aren't screwing California. There are tens of millions of people living in Southern California. That area has no way to meet its utility demands on it's own, so water and electricity are pumped in from out of state. It's supply and demand. So many people want to live there and the supply of power and water is limited.
 
ariolanine said:



Other states aren't screwing California. There are tens of millions of people living in Southern California. That area has no way to meet its utility demands on it's own, so water and electricity are pumped in from out of state. It's supply and demand. So many people want to live there and the supply of power and water is limited.

so its your contention that the huge fiasco of the last couple years is unrelated to de-regulatipn
 
No, it's my contention that the crux of water and electricity problems in southern california lies mostly with the fact that so many people want to live in one spot. Deregulation or not, cali had and always will have a problem providing utilities.
 
collegiateLifter said:



thats a pretty blatant misrepresentation. The vast majority of califronians weren't necessarilly for deregulation (which actually was a gesture toward competition albeit in a very imperfect market); steve peace had an agenda and got it. The millions of a californians suffer as a result; meanwhile corporations and other states screw californians aka capitalize, enron included.

I don't agree with the socialistic attitude of california politics, but atleast cite things that are somehow related.


you lost me...

i thought a lot of california's problem stemmed from
the "not here " problem...

as in you cant build power plants here...

you cant have nuke plants here...

you cant run power lines here...

and then...

we cant run our air...

federal dollars please...

federal control over those renegade states
charging market prices for their surplus, please...
 
bwood said:



you lost me...

i thought a lot of california's problem stemmed from
the "not here " problem...

as in you cant build power plants here...

you cant have nuke plants here...

you cant run power lines here...

and then...

we cant run our air...

federal dollars please...

federal control over those renegade states
charging market prices for their surplus, please...

OWNED!!!
 
Republican Rat Haynes Weighs In

Sabotaging economy helps keep power demand down and the lights on

By RAY HAYNES
Republican assemblyman from Murrieta

It appears that I owe Gov. Gray Davis an apology. Over the last four years, I've been accusing him of recklessly destroying our budget, our business climate and our power system with no strategy or concern for long-term costs. But a recent report from the California Independent System Operators (Cal-ISO, our state's incredibly effective energy managers) has now led to me to believe that I haven't been giving our governor enough credit - he's smarter than he looks!

In our state budget, we've gone from a $12 billion surplus to a $36 billion deficit in four short years. The system of tax and fee increases and some of the budget cuts the governor has proposed seem designed to deliver the coup de grace to our ailing economy, almost like he's putting it out of its misery.

If you look at what he's done to our business climate over the last four years, it is literally stunning. Workers' compensation costs are doubling and tripling and forcing businesses out of the state. Unemployment taxes are rising, disability taxes are rising, the cost of liability insurance is rising, and a host of new fees are being imposed on businesses and business owners. At the same time, we've increased the minimum wage, mandated paid family leave, restricted work schedules by changing overtime rules and created a host of new environmental requirements for companies to meet.

As a result, the national Small Business Survival Committee (www.SBSC.org) has rated California as the 46th worst state in the country to do business. After the last year of fee and workers' comp increases, I'm confident that we will drop to the very bottom of the list.

In the power crisis, we all know the governor waited far too long to take action and let us fall into a hole that will take 25 years to pay off. He has since spent his time looking for others to blame and done little to improve a system that continues to operate at a capacity that is too low for a state our size. Many of the power plants he promised would come on line are now not being built, because his policies have created a climate where, despite the highest energy prices in the nation, they won't be able to make any money.

In short, California's political structure is too unstable for any new business investment, power-related or otherwise.

I thought this was a pretty lousy record, but that's just because I thought all these things were happening independently of each other and without any grand scheme in mind. This brings me to the Cal-ISO report. According to the agency's analysis, as long as the economy continues to suffer, we should have enough power in the system to last into 2006 or 2007. However, "If the economy picks up, we could be getting into trouble in 2005, 2004 with bad weather."

Can you now see what the governor is doing for us? He remembers how mad we got when our power went out a couple of summers ago and he has promised not to let that happen again. According to the state's own power experts, the only way we'll have enough power to get through the next four years is by keeping the economy in the toilet. The worst thing that could happen to the state's power grid in their eyes is for people to start working again, and opening businesses here and expanding their operations.

So while I've been badmouthing the governor for the damage he's been doing to our business climate and our budget, he's been selflessly sabotaging our economic recovery in order to keep our lights on - just like he promised! While I would prefer that he solve the power crisis by making it easier to build more power plants, I can no longer accuse him of doing nothing to solve the problem.

I apologize for thinking he was destroying the state through mere incompetence, and for not understanding the method behind the madness. He's still wrong, but at least he's got a plan!

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