"What coild mimic Donkey our machiene has been broken for like 2 years"
You don't need a donkey machine. A power rack and 4" box will do. Have someone sit on your back, two people if necessary.
I do donkeys with all my clients, usually me (265 lbs) and someone else if necessary. Check out one of the old Arnold pics with a couple of guys on his back.
I don't think that the donkey calf raises are much better than any other calf exercise that I do. I personally like the standing calf raises the best...and second to that, I like the seated. It's really about the weight...and how hard I squeeze!
I generally do a superset standing on a box at the smith machine for raises, then squatting straight down (heels still off the box) and doing "duck raises" for 10-15 reps, then squat the bar back up and rack it. Repeat until toast.
I don't think that the donkey calf raises are much better than any other calf exercise that I do. I personally like the standing calf raises the best...and second to that, I like the seated. It's really about the weight...and how hard I squeeze!
Wilson6 and others... I was wondering if it is imperative or if it really gives you much better results, when doing calf exercises to pull the heels in on some and to push the heels out on some and to do some straight? Any Thoughts?
All that heels in heels out stuff is crap and myth...hope I didn't step on any toes.
Keep the foot straight ahead. Do up to 6 work sets of 10-15 reps with heavy weights and full range of motion. Do partials and burns. Also when you go to failure rack the weight and rest for 5-10 seconds and then do more etc etc.
Rest 90 seconds between sets and reduce the weight after each set by 10%. Train them like any other muscle group....once every 6-7 days.
I built my calves from 15.5 to 19 inches in this manner.
Sadly though if you don't have the base tissue then you are shit out of luck.
"All that heels in heels out stuff is crap and myth..."
I'll email Per Tesch and suggest he quit wasting time with that stupid magnet and get all of his info from the elite board for his next book
Having said that, I do agree with real gains. I tell my clients to keep their feet straight. We stopped the toes in/out stuff years ago. Both the lateral and medial gast appear to be fully activated with feet straight provided the big toe stays involved in force generation.