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binö said:
The zimmerman telegram was such a political fail, Woodrow was looking to get in on the blood and guts and this tipped his hand and helped turn the populace against germany...which up to this point had been largely indifferent or pro-german...the lithstansia (sp) sinking was another critical point, but honestly it was a scam too, the ship was clearly shipping cladestine armaments and thus was a legit target for germany mercahnt hunters.
and i don't believe a peace different than vesailles in ww1 would've prevented ww2 entirely...would this peace have included returning all of germany's eastern gains made via the peace with russia (under russia's duress?) cause if it wouldn't have sooner or later when the russian's regrouped that would've been a point of contention solved by invasion...lenin was biding his time...and if germany did give back the eastern lands their desire for lebensraum would've pushed them east eventually leading to conflict with russia and their western allies.
how would this non-versailles peace solved belgiums netrality violations, or alsace-lorraine?
or what about turkey and their empire...without the treaty the breakup of this juggernaut would've spurred conflict between the western nations
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If you examine the outcome of the Armistice that lead to the rebirth of Poland and countries formed by the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire...all spontaneous.It may have been inevitable but it would probably have been more controlled...like the break up of the British Empire. The idea of a Jewish lead fifth column that created a revolution in Germany and the myth they hadn't been defeated in the field based on the assertion no allied soldier ever set foot in Germany; It was the rallying cry of Hitler and other nationalists.

France ceased to field an effective fighting force after Verdun...the German plan of attrition warfare succeed with France and they had to deal with revolts among the ranks. The interjection of fresh soldiers from the United States just ensured an outcome that was influenced by what was essentially a disinterested party. Had the Americans not intervened then the British would have been left to do the fighting and I suspect France and England would have agreed to go back to pre-1914 borders. After all, WWI was a war created by entangling alliances...Thomas Jefferson was a political philosopher of the first order.


As far as Russia/Soviet Union was concerned..The allies not only didn't favor Soviet communism but actually created an expeditionary force they sent to Russia to stop the revolution.The German military planners could have ended the Soviet Union quickly based on their land gains achieved through their treaty. Hell, had Hitler entered the Ukraine as a liberator and not an ideological racist Germany might have beaten Stalin.
 
ledhead said:
Lol...Now jealousy will get you nowhere, didn't they teach you that on Walton Mountain? Jesus will punish you... Why you trying to disparage the greatest organization in the history of the world?? The Marines left Iraq 2 yrs ago because there was no one left to kill, they left the Army back to do head counts..Damn, it took them 2 yrs to count all them KIAs... They are just leaving.. Lol..

Now, Murderers' Row are in Afghan showing Al-Qaeda love... Foaming at the mouth with 2ft erections like a pack wild crazed maniacs---committing genocide everywhere we go... and delivering every dictators head straight to the Oval Office.. Wiping out ecosystems, because our name is called "disturbance." Just like we did in 1991.. ONE-NINE RODE-OUT IN NINE-ONE!!

I suppose all your policies are spoken through them lame YouTube Videos--- that a boy, let everyone else do the talking and walking for you.. Just like I did the walking for you in Desert Storm.. I know you are a "conscientious objector."

Lol @ Jefferson not conning Napoleon...

Fyi, we show everyone love!!!








The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.
"Semper Fidelis"​

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978
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lololl..Al Queda is in Pakistan and Yemen...wrong country rob and if you look at the order of battle the United States Army does the heavy lifting....as usual, killing peasant farmers with no training is what you brag about...What a proud tradition.

LOL @ genocide being something to brag about...I suspected you had a mental illness but I didn't realize you're a sociopath.
 
javaguru said:
If you examine the outcome of the Armistice that lead to the rebirth of Poland and countries formed by the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire...all spontaneous.It may have been inevitable but it would probably have been more controlled...like the break up of the British Empire. The idea of a Jewish lead fifth column that created a revolution in Germany and the myth they hadn't been defeated in the field based on the assertion no allied soldier ever set foot in Germany; It was the rallying cry of Hitler and other nationalists.

France ceased to field an effective fighting force after Verdun...the German plan of attrition warfare succeed with France and they had to deal with revolts among the ranks. The interjection of fresh soldiers from the United States just ensured an outcome that was influenced by what was essentially a disinterested party. Had the Americans not intervened then the British would have been left to do the fighting and I suspect France and England would have agreed to go back to pre-1914 borders. After all, WWI was a war created by entangling alliances...Thomas Jefferson was a political philosopher of the first order.


As far as Russia/Soviet Union was concerned..The allies not only didn't favor Soviet communism but actually created an expeditionary force they sent to Russia to stop the revolution.The German military planners could have ended the Soviet Union quickly based on their land gains achieved through their treaty. Hell, had Hitler entered the Ukraine as a liberator and not an ideological racist Germany might have beaten Stalin.
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germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose
 
binö said:
germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose
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addendum (sp)- if the weimar republic would've curbed the aristocratic/junker class' influence, things could've worked out differently...their linkage with the nazi party is what propelled the conflict...
 
binö said:
germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose
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Kaiser Wilhem made a last minute appeal to the general staff for a way to make a peace deal before the Schlieffen Plan was conducted but the plan was so precise that mobilizing the army didn't allow any deviation from the plan. The common wisdom among historians is that Germany was a warmonger country and even prominent historians of the day made racist comments that the German character was prone to war.

They were late to establish a nation state and likewise late to establishing a colonial empire but it doesn't mean the United States should have supported England over Germany. The United States fought two wars against England and they were the dominant colonial power of recent history...Of course England promoted every avenue to have the United States fight a war in their interest; That's what Saudi Arabia and Israel have been doing. Exactly how was Stalin a better partner than Hitler? The only reason Hitler invaded France was because they guaranteed the sovereignty of Poland...long held German lands; Germany just paid off their Versailles debt to the French...that was a major talking point for the nationalists of the day...


WWII was only inevitable in the sense that Germany has always been squeezed by its neighbors. Napoleon made his reputation on piles of Prussian corpses while they faced Austria-Hungary and Russia. England never had to face the invasions and brutality Germans endured during the Thirty Years War.
 
what if you have a lady over and she logs on while you're taking a shit
 
binö said:
addendum (sp)- if the weimar republic would've curbed the aristocratic/junker class' influence, things could've worked out differently...their linkage with the nazi party is what propelled the conflict...
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napolean ran all over europe and he is seen as great
while adolf, trying to do germany right, is mister evil
the whole world has a high school level education
 
javaguru said:
Kaiser Wilhem made a last minute appeal to the general staff for a way to make a peace deal before the Schlieffen Plan was conducted but the plan was so precise that mobilizing the army didn't allow any deviation from the plan. The common wisdom among historians is that Germany was a warmonger country and even prominent historians of the day made racist comments that the German character was prone to war.

They were late to establish a nation state and likewise late to establishing a colonial empire but it doesn't mean the United States should have supported England over Germany. The United States fought two wars against England and they were the dominant colonial power of recent history...Of course England promoted every avenue to have the United States fight a war in their interest; That's what Saudi Arabia and Israel have been doing. Exactly how was Stalin a better partner than Hitler? The only reason Hitler invaded France was because they guaranteed the sovereignty of Poland...long held German lands; Germany just paid off their Versailles debt to the French...that was a major talking point for the nationalists of the day...


WWII was only inevitable in the sense that Germany has always been squeezed by its neighbors. Napoleon made his reputation on piles of Prussian corpses while they faced Austria-Hungary and Russia. England never had to face the invasions and brutality Germans endured during the Thirty Years War.
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The way i understood the Kaiser's last minute appeal is that Moltke had a nervous breakdown at the prospect, and didn't have the balls to make the stop happen, though it wouldn't have been impossible...and i don't think it's racist or wrong to say certain germans were prone/in favor of militancy esp the junker/prussian military class.
and the kaiser was a billergent asshole towards america, making all sorts of threats and his peace offerings were smamry and shit talking...he clearly underestimated the USA and was not a good voice for german peace with america...
 
I wont defend Kaiser Wilhelm as a leader, dictators are always douche bags, but as John Keegan discusses in his book, "The First World War", Germany was shackled to the corpse of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

I'm biased but I think that Hitler actually gained his political traction, where it mattered, with the Prussian general staff; His concept of lebensraum was to end the threat of the east forever while regaining lands that been held by Prussians since the 18th century until the end of WWI; Nations surrounded by military threats always militarize and act aggressively.

Now, if you say WWII was inevitable when it came to a conflict between the United States and Japan then you have position based on United States policy for about a century but the United States general staff developed two war plans for Asia...One with Japan and the other for a war with the Commonwealth of Great Britain. When the United States decided to become a colonial power in Asia we had to prepare for conflict with other colonial powers in the region.
 
brownbrown said:
:Popcorn::Popcorn::Popcorn:
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brownbrown said:
How's yours? I'm sure you can talk to John Boner and neglect to mention it to him because it doesnt affect you directly. Whats your motto again? Fuck everyone else, only look out for #1?
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I've already posted it twice on this thread. Here goes a third time: We should do nothing, because there's nothing we can do.

Are you stoned, or just illiterate?

Now enlighten us with your policy.
 
mrplunkey said:
I've already posted it twice on this thread. Here goes a third time: We should do nothing, because there's nothing we can do.

Are you stoned, or just illiterate?

Now enlighten us with your policy.
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Doing nothing is KNOT a policy. It's being a pussy.

I posted my policy twice in this thread also. so umm yea.


and Neither Stoned or illterate.
 
brownbrown said:
Doing nothing is KNOT a policy. It's being a pussy.

I posted my policy twice in this thread also. so umm yea.


and Neither Stoned or illterate.
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Surely you aren't referring to that chickenshit statement about "Takig a colllelctive producative offfence" as what you call policy.

If that's the case, maybe we can leverage some synergy to create win-win scenarios and extend our sphere of influence in a diplomatic paradigm while we're at it.

Face the facts. You're completely full of shit and totally bankrupt in the arena of ideas. You should be tossed on the scrapheap of useless liberals who bitch and whine while the rest of us carry the burden of progress.

/yawn
 
mrplunkey said:
Surely you aren't referring to that chickenshit statement about "Takig a colllelctive producative offfence" as what you call policy.

If that's the case, maybe we can leverage some synergy to create win-win scenarios and extend our sphere of influence in a diplomatic paradigm while we're at it.

Face the facts. You're completely full of shit and totally bankrupt in the arena of ideas. You should be tossed on the scrapheap of useless liberals who bitch and whine while the rest of us carry the burden of progress.

/yawn
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Im bankrupt in ideas and you say "we do nothing" . Yea lets just sit and wait ... you obviously havent read the thread...
 
Btw, you said your policy 3 times? I specificy remember you saying " i dont have one, but im not the one droning on".
 
brownbrown said:
Btw, you said your policy 3 times? I specificy remember you saying " i dont have one, but im not the one droning on".
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Would you like me to find you a synonym for "nothing"?

What syllable of the word do you not understand?

There's nothing we can do, unless you want to start a new war.
 
mrplunkey said:
I know what we'll do!

How about nothing? Know why? Because that's all we can do.
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More pressure on Iran in the works – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

The main target in the approach is Iran's Central Bank, which countries must deal with to buy petroleum. On Capitol Hill, Congress is pushing legislation that would prevent foreign financial institutions that do business with the Iranian Central Bank in Tehran from operating in or doing business with the United States.
 
brownbrown said:
So sit and wait for another attack?
For all the crying wolf you do on Policies , you sure have a Pussy stance on foreign policy.
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If we're going to nation build, then we should give George W a call. At least he's got experience at it.
 
brownbrown said:
Subject change.... par
nobody fucking said shit nation building.
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Oh, I get it!

So we just blow them up, wreck their economy (even more) or do some double-secret shit outside of international law.

Or is your policy more geared toward a really nasty press release and a sternly-worded letter from Hillary Clinton?
 
mrplunkey said:
Oh, I get it!

So we just blow them up, wreck their economy (even more) or do some double-secret shit outside of international law.

Or is your policy more geared toward a really nasty press release and a sternly-worded letter from Hillary Clinton?
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that'll teach them for jacking a drone we flew over their airspace!
 
mrplunkey said:
Oh, I get it!

So we just blow them up, wreck their economy (even more) or do some double-secret shit outside of international law.

Or is your policy more geared toward a really nasty press release and a sternly-worded letter from Hillary Clinton?
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Nobody said "attack" them.
And there will always be spying or "double secret shit"(in Tennessee talk), and spying is a important part of keeping America and its allies safe from international enemies.
Your the one that says do nothing, so why make a sarcastic remark about a stern-press release? Shit, thats less pussy than what you would do.
You speak of Irans wrecked economy.... You worried about it? Sounds like you know the sanctions are working. You against the Internationally legal sanctions Mr. Do nothing?
 
brownbrown said:
Nobody said "attack" them.
And there will always be spying or "double secret shit"(in Tennessee talk), and spying is a important part of keeping America and its allies safe from international enemies.
Your the one that says do nothing, so why make a sarcastic remark about a stern-press release? Shit, thats less pussy than what you would do.
You speak of Irans wrecked economy.... You worried about it? Sounds like you know the sanctions are working. You against the Internationally legal sanctions Mr. Do nothing?
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Because you think a stern press release actually matters.

That's one of the many reasons that both you and your ideas will always be irrelevant.
 
redsamurai said:
one simple fact you can't get around....brown and me never caroused no tranny bars together. Jus sayin. We never met.
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Nor have pick3 and I.

But the tie-breaker is that neither pick3 nor I are "wow, just wow"-ing to nekkid pics of bino either.

:rainbow:
 
omg lmfao at "double secret"....brown i thought you were playin, didn't realize he actually wrote that down. Bwaaahahahahahahahaha
 
mrplunkey said:
Because you think a stern press release actually matters.

That's one of the many reasons that both you and your ideas will always be irrelevant.
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I never said that a "stern-press release" will do shit. funny how you Assume that.
Cute how you avoid the Sanctions question. Way to stay shallow.
 
brownbrown said:
I never said that a "stern-press release" will do shit. funny how you Assume that.
Cute how you avoid the Sanctions question. Way to stay shallow.
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Yeah, I bet China and Russia are just dying to sanction Iran into oblivion.

Maybe we could construct a naval blockade around Canada at the same time as a sign of solidarity.
 
mrplunkey said:
Nor have pick3 and I.
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liar


But the tie-breaker is that neither pick3 nor I are "wow, just wow"-ing to nekkid pics of bino either.

:rainbow:
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you did catch the vagina they had photoshopped onto bino right? you do know what that was where bino's cock is supposed to be right? do we need to show you the pic again so we can walk you through it? bring it back up pick
 
redsamurai said:
liar





you did catch the vagina they had photoshopped onto bino right? you do know what that was where bino's cock is supposed to be right? do we need to show you the pic again so we can walk you through it? bring it back up pick
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Now see? That's much better than angry RS.

Now you are sticking to your core strength -- sounding confident even when you're wrong.
 
redsamurai said:
omg lmfao at "double secret"....brown i thought you were playin, didn't realize he actually wrote that down. Bwaaahahahahahahahaha
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Typical person talk from someone who hasn't served their country.
Nor has the grasp on anything worldly except for $$$$$$$
 
mrplunkey said:
Now see? That's much better than angry RS.

Now you are sticking to your core strength -- sounding confident even when you're wrong.
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see i don't think i'm wrong....i think it's been awhile for ya. And when we see those twins come out like darkness the verdict will be in....you're being cuckolded "yet again". LMFAO
 
mrplunkey said:
Yeah, I bet China and Russia are just dying to sanction Iran into oblivion.

Maybe we could construct a naval blockade around Canada at the same time as a sign of solidarity.
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LOL, Canada is one of our greatest allies. They have provided more troops on our ventures than almost every other country.

China and Russia have signed on to the sanctions. So?
They didn't agree to them at 1st. ...
 
PICK3 said:
I'll vote for who Plunkey tells me to vote for!
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I was breaking for Paul, but since RS likes him I think I'll give some cash to Romney.

If Red likes a candidate, something has to be terribly wrong with them. It's like a candidate getting David Duke's endorsement.
 
and yeah, go give your dirty cash to someone else. I would hate to find out you "clung" like a dingleberry to his candidacy even though you have derided him plenty. But that's something your principal-less old ass would do isn't it? Frontrunning little queen.
 
mrplunkey said:
I was breaking for Paul, but since RS likes him I think I'll give some cash to Romney.

If Red likes a candidate, something has to be terribly wrong with them. It's like a candidate getting David Duke's endorsement.
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Talking about the leader of the free world. Not a flavor of Ben and Jerry's ya fucking Idiot.

Well, since you lack the depth of a mature response to the Sanctions/Canada and a Valid Iran policy. I will know you know less than I thought. Which is amazing.
 
brownbrown said:
Talking about the leader of the free world. Not a flavor of Ben and Jerry's ya fucking Idiot.

Well, since you lack the depth of a mature response to the Sanctions/Canada and a Valid Iran policy. I will know you know less than I thought. Which is amazing.
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I'm on-board with your policy of "Takig a colllelctive producative offfence"!

And LOL @ China and Russia not doing business with Iran.
 
So you think is bad to do "double secret" stuff and want to ignore Iran? And just wait for another attack. Got it.
 
brownbrown said:
So you think is bad to do "double secret" stuff and want to ignore Iran? And just wait for another attack. Got it.
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No way! We're going to "Takig a colllelctive producative offfence" to the situation!

That will solve it for sure.
 
So how are you and Round Brown gonna work out this Ron Paul lover's spat?

Ron doesn't want to do anything against Iran either, does he?
 
mrplunkey said:
So how are you and Round Brown gonna work out this Ron Paul lover's spat?

Ron doesn't want to do anything against Iran either, does he?
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So you rather me talk Ron Paul policy with you?Lets talk reality, and if Ron Paul gets into office and he gets his 1st National security briefing?
 
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