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You first, what's yours?

I'm not the one hoping up and down arguing over what a threat they are.

Round brown is making a case for how dangerous they are. What's he going to do? A blockade? Bomb them? Invasion?
 
I'm not the one hoping up and down arguing over what a threat they are.

Round brown is making a case for how dangerous they are. What's he going to do? A blockade? Bomb them? Invasion?
They are dangerous. He'll do what ever the Ayatolla tells him to do. The Iranian Government will do what ever it can to show it's strength.

So you think they are harmless and we have nothing to worry about with IRan? That it's all peaches with them and the US?
 
I was against intervention in Libya and the great messiah, Obama was going to sell weapons to Libya before the "Arab Spring" as Momar sat on the UN Human Rights Council...

I have been to the Middle East and killed numerous Muslims as part of Desert Storm...I hope that no American has to die in those shithole countries ever again for imagined threats conjured by pundents and politicians to further their political goals.

My "Iranian Policy"...I think Thomas Jefferson said it best,"peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none."
I do not agree that that is an Iran policy. Hence, that is not an acceptable answer.

That is a quote from Jefferson for blanket relations. Whats your Specific policy on the IRAN we hae now.

Your copping out by quoting someone else.

So you were in Destert storm? Where were you stationed? What Batallion did you work with. What was your MOS? What shit did you deploy with to the middle east?
 
They are dangerous. He'll do what ever the Ayatolla tells him to do. The Iranian Government will do what ever it can to show it's strength.

So you think they are harmless and we have nothing to worry about with IRan? That it's all peaches with them and the US?

I still don't see an Iran policy...

Let's assume I agree with you that they are dangerous (the degree obviously being a point of debate). Now what are you going to do?
 
I still don't see an Iran policy...

Let's assume I agree with you that they are dangerous (the degree obviously being a point of debate). Now what are you going to do?
Your asking for something before you expain yours.
So I see your question as baiting. So before I go into my "policy" (although I'm not running for office) I want yours.
Obviously Java has none because he just quoted Jefferson.
So tell me your great policy. ???? I bet for sure it would be better than the Cain Trains and Fuckmanns, and your not running for Potus.
 
I still don't see an Iran policy...

Let's assume I agree with you that they are dangerous (the degree obviously being a point of debate). Now what are you going to do?

I don't have any solutions that don't involve a time machine.

My only hope is that whatever is done, the Euros lead the way so we won't get blamed for it. I see it as a no-win situation that will turn out badly no matter what is or isn't done.

Nuclear technology is one of those genies that can't be kept in the bottle forever. Every emerging nation will eventually reach that technological stage if they continue to progress. Which means the world could become an even more dangerous place as this century goes on.
 
Your asking for something before you expain yours.
So I see your question as baiting. So before I go into my "policy" (although I'm not running for office) I want yours.
Obviously Java has none because he just quoted Jefferson.
So tell me your great policy. ???? I bet for sure it would be better than the Cain Trains and Fuckmanns, and your not running for Potus.

I'm not the one droning on and on about how dangerous Iran is. All I've read from you on the subject is one continuous whine.

If you truly believe they are dangerous, then state a course of action. I see a ton of bitching from you, but never anything that even resembles a decent course of action.
 
I'm not the one droning on and on about how dangerous Iran is. All I've read from you on the subject is one continuous whine.

If you truly believe they are dangerous, then state a course of action. I see a ton of bitching from you, but never anything that even resembles a decent course of action.
SO you dont have a policy, just like the rest of the GOP tools.
I will NOT entertain your bait question.
All I read from you is Bitching about Obama's policies and all you have to offer are more of the same policies that have proven NOT to work. SO the Pot calling the Kettle I say.
Your pretty shallow dude. Easy to read....
 
SO you dont have a policy, just like the rest of the GOP tools.
I will NOT entertain your bait question.
All I read from you is Bitching about Obama's policies and all you have to offer are more of the same policies that have proven NOT to work. SO the Pot calling the Kettle I say.
Your pretty shallow dude. Easy to read....

Then continue whining about Iran. It's fun to watch you meander from sidebar to sidebar while Java takes you apart.
 
Then continue whining about Iran. It's fun to watch you meander from sidebar to sidebar while Java takes you apart.
LOL, takes me apart with idiotic assumptions and false statements on the Middle East.
Sure. just watch then. and if would help if you only did that and kept your usless posts out of the way.


And LOL at you not asking his policy on Iran... He's been quiet since I asked his. About Par.
 
LOL, takes me apart with idiotic assumptions and false statements on the Middle East.
Sure. just watch then. and if would help if you only did that and kept your usless posts out of the way.


And LOL at you not asking his policy on Iran... He's been quiet since I asked his. About Par.

Then let's see if he mans-up. I have no doubt he'll beat you to the punch.

Java:

State your opinion on what the US should do regarding Iran. Please be as succinct as possible.

Thank you in advance,

Plunkster
 
"Iran announced three years ago it had built an unmanned aircraft with a range of more than 600 miles (1,000 kilometers), far enough to reach Israel.


Ahmadinejad unveiled Iran's first domestically built unmanned bomber aircraft in August 2010, calling it an "ambassador of death" to Iran's enemies. "

LOL at Java saying they are not a threat.
 
[SIZE=+1]Khamenei: "Death to America" Not Just A Slogan,[/SIZE] Reuter, November 5[SIZE=-2] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Iran's supreme leader on Wednesday ruled out any thaw in relations with the United States, saying Washington wanted to force Tehran to abandon its Islamic principles….[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]"There are some people (in Iran) who believe, when the Iranian nation says: 'Struggle against America' or 'Death to America' or 'No to ties with America,' that these are slogans and purely emotional things," Khamenei said. "This is wrong.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]"This is a fundamental issue based on logical grounds and wisdom and it is in conformity with the national interests of this country," Khamenei said without naming a party….[/SIZE]
 
I'm not the one droning on and on about how dangerous Iran is. All I've read from you on the subject is one continuous whine.

If you truly believe they are dangerous, then state a course of action. I see a ton of bitching from you, but never anything that even resembles a decent course of action.


Ohhh, come on now! Don't you you think you are just picking a little bit?? What would you do? What would your policy be towards Iran? Would you walk up to Ahmadinejad and give him a big, sloppy kiss?? It is impossible to use diplomacy with dictators. Read history, folks are talking about Jefferson in this thread, he did not put up with dictators. Reagan did not put-up with dictators, and both policies worked. Anyone, who thinks this guy is not a serious threat is off their rocker. They say Iran has access to warheads that can travel 2,000 miles, so they could easily reach Israel, which Iran would have no qualms using nukes on Israel, they hate them with all their being. Israel is probably our greatest ally save the British. Therefore, we would be obligated to step in and fuck them up. As long as we are the leaders of the "free world," we have an obligation to put rogue dictators in check..

Give them an ultimatum.. They have an (x) amount of time to turn over their warheads to the UN or dismantle their weapons asap. If they do not comply, we send a "special forces" unit in there to dismantle the weapons. If they continue to get cute, we send the CIA in to take out Ahmadinejad via assassination, there will not be much of a backlash from the indigenous people because they basically hate him. We put in a "puppet" leader, who is pro-democracy, it has been done time and time again. This guy has repeatedly threatened Israel and the U.S., he has to go... Fuck him, if all else fails, send Mother Green in her killing machine to commit genocide... it will be there pleasure.. they are about through wiping out Al-Qaeda...

I am telling you, if we do not resolve this issue, Israel will do a preemptive strike, they do not give a fuck.. and they will not lose, read history.. Then we will be fighting the entire Middle East, they all hate Israel----so we are better of dealing with it.. We still have the power, via economics, military, ect...
 
Then continue whining about Iran. It's fun to watch you meander from sidebar to sidebar while Java takes you apart.
Java cant even stay on subject. and you come in asking questions that you yourself cant answer. you defer answering to "waitiing for someone elses response". Hoping that he can fill in an answer that you dont have. hoping that he can validate you.
 
REDsam, had any good seafood lately? I had some delicious calamari the other day.

I heard he had some really good lokshen the other day but then felt compelled to call the proprietor a dirty joo and left.

:(
 
I do not agree that that is an Iran policy. Hence, that is not an acceptable answer.

That is a quote from Jefferson for blanket relations. Whats your Specific policy on the IRAN we hae now.

Your copping out by quoting someone else.

So you were in Destert storm? Where were you stationed? What Batallion did you work with. What was your MOS? What shit did you deploy with to the middle east?
No,that's my policy for not only Iran but southwest asia and the rest of the world...leave everyone be unless they are directly threatening an attack on the United States and capable of carrying it out. If Bill Clinton had dealt with Osama after the Cole attack when he was almost handed him there probably wouldn't have been a 9/11 attack.

I'm not giving out personal information on the web but I served with 18th Airborne Corps (God rest the formation)..we had the Foreign Legion on our left flank and I was amazed they were willing to trade their rations for MRE's...They had actual bread as opposed to crackers and peanut butter;I'm a 13B....All we fired was DPICM and then we occupied the positions we fired on..Not a pretty site...
 
I've answered brownbrown..I'm interested in his foreign policy positions for not only Iran but Afghanistan? I need to hear the progressive answer to these issues..How will you socially engineer Afghanistan...Alexander the Great and Ghengis Khan both avoided Afghanistan..How will your progressive policies overcome tribalism?
 
No,that's my policy for not only Iran but southwest asia and the rest of the world...leave everyone be unless they are directly threatening an attack on the United States and capable of carrying it out. If Bill Clinton had dealt with Osama after the Cole attack when he was almost handed him there probably wouldn't have been a 9/11 attack.

I'm not giving out personal information on the web but I served with 18th Airborne Corps (God rest the formation)..we had the Foreign Legion on our left flank and I was amazed they were willing to trade their rations for MRE's...They had actual bread as opposed to crackers and peanut butter;I'm a 13B....All we fired was DPICM and then we occupied the positions we fired on..Not a pretty site...

This.

Unless we're ready to declare war on them, there's nothing we can substantially do about Iran. We don't have the money or the will to enter into yet another middle east war.

So now enlighten us Round Brown, how does your Iran policy differ from what JG and I believe?
 
Oh Round Brown... let's hear that Iran policy that will enlighten us all!
 
I've answered brownbrown..I'm interested in his foreign policy positions for not only Iran but Afghanistan? I need to hear the progressive answer to these issues..How will you socially engineer Afghanistan...Alexander the Great and Ghengis Khan both avoided Afghanistan..How will your progressive policies overcome tribalism?

The Afghan President today begged the west to stay in Afghanistan for another decade. Fuck.
 
The Afghan President today begged the west to stay in Afghanistan for another decade. Fuck.

Barry told us that Afghanistan was the noble war. Shouldn't we want to stay?

Who did that surge thing there anyway?
 
Barry told us that Afghanistan was the noble war. Shouldn't we want to stay?

Who did that surge thing there anyway?

So your take-away from that is that we should stay forever?

Typical.

It's difficult to have an adult conversation with someone who resorts to gotchas and bullying* rather than engaging in any sort of meaningful exchange of ideas.


*"roundbrown", "irregardless", "Cybercollege", "Vibrams"...
 
No,that's my policy for not only Iran but southwest asia and the rest of the world...leave everyone be unless they are directly threatening an attack on the United States and capable of carrying it out. If Bill Clinton had dealt with Osama after the Cole attack when he was almost handed him there probably wouldn't have been a 9/11 attack.

...
SO your policy of beigne reactive to sit back and wait untli somethings happen. Well that worked out so fabolus during Pearl Harbor worked great for us in WWI and WWII.
It worked wonderfull for 9/11 9 (even though Clintion had him in Tora Broa but didnt go thorough with it)
sittiing around and being recactive is the stupideist policital idea we could
have.
The world is tided to gethethar, And a sense of Individnaliam that has plagued American;s interior and abroud has continually ramped up more had more disontent.
Takig a colllelctive producative offfence is what would work. Not Dircety attacting any one of them , but keeping it clear that if they react.. there will be consequesnsces.
Speask softly and Carry a big stick

extemists and bullies dont just go away, they reforum remulate for greater attacks. they never backoff.....

How;s tha tfor a :"progressive:" idea. ? Since your to stupid to know that im NOT Potgressive., and that Im a constervative. More Conscervative than 906% of yll on here.

sleepy pills kicking in,,,, Fuck yu alll goodnigt=
 
SO your policy of beigne reactive to sit back and wait untli somethings happen. Well that worked out so fabolus during Pearl Harbor worked great for us in WWI and WWII.
It worked wonderfull for 9/11 9 (even though Clintion had him in Tora Broa but didnt go thorough with it)
sittiing around and being recactive is the stupideist policital idea we could
have.
The world is tided to gethethar, And a sense of Individnaliam that has plagued American;s interior and abroud has continually ramped up more had more disontent.
Takig a colllelctive producative offfence is what would work. Not Dircety attacting any one of them , but keeping it clear that if they react.. there will be consequesnsces.
Speask softly and Carry a big stick

extemists and bullies dont just go away, they reforum remulate for greater attacks. they never backoff.....

How;s tha tfor a :"progressive:" idea. ? Since your to stupid to know that im NOT Potgressive., and that Im a constervative. More Conscervative than 906% of yll on here.

sleepy pills kicking in,,,, Fuck yu alll goodnigt=

WWI? Are you saying the Zimmerman Telegram was a real threat to America? WWI was a war of choice by the United States and had the United States not intervened the British, French and Italians would have been forced to make a peace treaty with the Central Powers that would have precluded WWII in Europe. The Treaty of Versailles almost guaranteed WWII and many historians consider WWII a continuation of WWI.

Pearl Harbor, thanks for making my point, the United States had instituted a steel and oil embargo against Japan; When they (Japanese General Staff)decide to attack Pearl Harbor the IJN had six months of oil reserves which was enough to attack United States interests in the Pacific and seize the oil reserves in Indonesia. Their hand was forced via a United States embargo...

That being said, I don't see a coherent policy from you that prevents Iran from developing nukes or continuing to influence southwest Asia.

Also, news break...Iran just captured an intact version of the most advanced drone in the U.S. arsenal; It's basically a scaled down version of the stealth bomber...with all the advanced avionics.
 
"Iran announced three years ago it had built an unmanned aircraft with a range of more than 600 miles (1,000 kilometers), far enough to reach Israel.


Ahmadinejad unveiled Iran's first domestically built unmanned bomber aircraft in August 2010, calling it an "ambassador of death" to Iran's enemies. "

LOL at Java saying they are not a threat.

Last time I checked...the United States is farther than 600 miles from Iran....just sayin...If Israel disappeared tomorrow it would only reduce the United States deficit (foreign aid) and reduce the hatred of the United States in southwest Asia...There are three reasons Muslims hate us based on government reports...killing them, occupying their land, and supporting Israel.

I asked for a reason OTHER than Israel....just sayin'.
 
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Ohhh, come on now! Don't you you think you are just picking a little bit?? What would you do? What would your policy be towards Iran? Would you walk up to Ahmadinejad and give him a big, sloppy kiss?? It is impossible to use diplomacy with dictators. Read history, folks are talking about Jefferson in this thread, he did not put up with dictators. Reagan did not put-up with dictators, and both policies worked. Anyone, who thinks this guy is not a serious threat is off their rocker. They say Iran has access to warheads that can travel 2,000 miles, so they could easily reach Israel, which Iran would have no qualms using nukes on Israel, they hate them with all their being. Israel is probably our greatest ally save the British. Therefore, we would be obligated to step in and fuck them up. As long as we are the leaders of the "free world," we have an obligation to put rogue dictators in check..

Give them an ultimatum.. They have an (x) amount of time to turn over their warheads to the UN or dismantle their weapons asap. If they do not comply, we send a "special forces" unit in there to dismantle the weapons. If they continue to get cute, we send the CIA in to take out Ahmadinejad via assassination, there will not be much of a backlash from the indigenous people because they basically hate him. We put in a "puppet" leader, who is pro-democracy, it has been done time and time again. This guy has repeatedly threatened Israel and the U.S., he has to go... Fuck him, if all else fails, send Mother Green in her killing machine to commit genocide... it will be there pleasure.. they are about through wiping out Al-Qaeda...

I am telling you, if we do not resolve this issue, Israel will do a preemptive strike, they do not give a fuck.. and they will not lose, read history.. Then we will be fighting the entire Middle East, they all hate Israel----so we are better of dealing with it.. We still have the power, via economics, military, ect...
Thomas Jefferson never put up with with dictators? Every country he had to deal with was a dictatorship..lmao.Google the Louisiana Purchase and Barbary Pirates...as a marine I would assume you were indoctrinated about the "shores of Tripoli" in your theme song. The Barbary Pirates were a threat to trade and Napoleon wasn't...both dictatorships....Napoleon was a European problem much like Iran is a southwest Asian problem.

FYI, Ben Franklin used diplomacy with the French dictatorship to fund the United States Revolution and actually intervene with their navy.

You need to ditch the idealistic cold war propaganda ...The United States has dealt with dictatorships since the founding of the country. We supported Momar,Mubarak, and the Shaw in Iran...not to mention Saudi Arabia and a host of other dictators around the world throughout history.
 
SO your policy of beigne reactive to sit back and wait untli somethings happen. Well that worked out so fabolus during Pearl Harbor worked great for us in WWI and WWII.
It worked wonderfull for 9/11 9 (even though Clintion had him in Tora Broa but didnt go thorough with it)
sittiing around and being recactive is the stupideist policital idea we could
have.
The world is tided to gethethar, And a sense of Individnaliam that has plagued American;s interior and abroud has continually ramped up more had more disontent.
Takig a colllelctive producative offfence is what would work. Not Dircety attacting any one of them , but keeping it clear that if they react.. there will be consequesnsces.
Speask softly and Carry a big stick

extemists and bullies dont just go away, they reforum remulate for greater attacks. they never backoff.....

How;s tha tfor a :"progressive:" idea. ? Since your to stupid to know that im NOT Potgressive., and that Im a constervative. More Conscervative than 906% of yll on here.

sleepy pills kicking in,,,, Fuck yu alll goodnigt=

So is that your Iran policy?

"Takig a colllelctive producative offfence"

What exactly does that mean? You're saying a whole lot of nothing.
 
So your take-away from that is that we should stay forever?

Typical.

It's difficult to have an adult conversation with someone who resorts to gotchas and bullying* rather than engaging in any sort of meaningful exchange of ideas.


*"roundbrown", "irregardless", "Cybercollege", "Vibrams"...

Yeah, you'd never resort to name-calling or sarcasm.

:rolleyes:
 
Thomas Jefferson never put up with with dictators? Every country he had to deal with was a dictatorship..lmao.Google the Louisiana Purchase and Barbary Pirates...as a marine I would assume you were indoctrinated about the "shores of Tripoli" in your theme song. The Barbary Pirates were a threat to trade and Napoleon wasn't...both dictatorships....Napoleon was a European problem much like Iran is a southwest Asian problem.

FYI, Ben Franklin used diplomacy with the French dictatorship to fund the United States Revolution and actually intervene with their navy.

You need to ditch the idealistic cold war propaganda ...The United States has dealt with dictatorships since the founding of the country. We supported Momar,Mubarak, and the Shaw in Iran...not to mention Saudi Arabia and a host of other dictators around the world throughout history.

Lol @ your entire post..

First, Jefferson conned Napoleon... He knew he needed money to fund his wars, which Jefferson knew the French were going to lose (spreaded his army to thin).

Lol @ Ben Franklin using diplomacy with the French.. He was another con-man. The French hated the British, they would have done anything to get rid of them.. You forgot to mention the French sent some ground troops too.. America was desperate, they would have taken money from the Devil...

Lol @ supporting all them other dictators---the fuckin' CIA put them all in power...

Lol @ your foreign policy---spoken like a true pussy, I should not expect anything less from a Quaker...

Lol @ your redneck buddy, is he still traumatized from what Sherman did his great-great granddaddy? Christ they did not have electricity until 1935, being a Quaker, I am sure you can empathize..

Oh my, I am sure you both would have burned your bras---learn the real meaning behind that..


Seriously, have you ever been experienced? Well I have (Hendrix).... If you were, all you did was capture a few demoralized stragglers. Mother Green and her killing machine went on a mass murder spree...


Realpolitiks rock!!!

I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did in breaching the so-called 'impenetrable barrier.' It was a classic- absolutely classic- military breaching of a very very tough minefield, barbed wire, fire trenches-type barrier.
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, U. S. Army
Commander, Operation Desert Storm, February 1991
 
It's not really necessary to defeat and discredit one's opponent every time one engages in a discussion. Or divert...

So after you've started some of the most divisive threads in EF history, participated in some of the most partisan name-calling and made some of the most snide and sarcastic comments on record, you've now decided that I should play nicely?
 
Another redirection...

(1) "some of the most divisive threads in EF history"??? Isn't that a bit dramatic? Heck, my threads usually generate about half a page.

(2) Name-calling? Really?

(3) Snide and sarcastic I'll admit.
 
Ohhh, come on now! Don't you you think you are just picking a little bit?? What would you do? What would your policy be towards Iran? Would you walk up to Ahmadinejad and give him a big, sloppy kiss?? It is impossible to use diplomacy with dictators. Read history, folks are talking about Jefferson in this thread, he did not put up with dictators. Reagan did not put-up with dictators, and both policies worked. Anyone, who thinks this guy is not a serious threat is off their rocker. They say Iran has access to warheads that can travel 2,000 miles, so they could easily reach Israel, which Iran would have no qualms using nukes on Israel, they hate them with all their being. Israel is probably our greatest ally save the British. Therefore, we would be obligated to step in and fuck them up. As long as we are the leaders of the "free world," we have an obligation to put rogue dictators in check..

Give them an ultimatum.. They have an (x) amount of time to turn over their warheads to the UN or dismantle their weapons asap. If they do not comply, we send a "special forces" unit in there to dismantle the weapons. If they continue to get cute, we send the CIA in to take out Ahmadinejad via assassination, there will not be much of a backlash from the indigenous people because they basically hate him. We put in a "puppet" leader, who is pro-democracy, it has been done time and time again. This guy has repeatedly threatened Israel and the U.S., he has to go... Fuck him, if all else fails, send Mother Green in her killing machine to commit genocide... it will be there pleasure.. they are about through wiping out Al-Qaeda...

I am telling you, if we do not resolve this issue, Israel will do a preemptive strike, they do not give a fuck.. and they will not lose, read history.. Then we will be fighting the entire Middle East, they all hate Israel----so we are better of dealing with it.. We still have the power, via economics, military, ect...



good post and i agree with some of it
"we send the CIA in to take out Ahmadinejad via assassination, there will not be much of a backlash from the indigenous people because they basically hate him"
but the moment we start murdering the hate towards the leadership turns into the most vigilant hatred of the usa and is played up as imperialism/racism/colonalism/etc...and the pop. will bite onto that with full force and then what? Iran is a bigass country boots on the ground would not be easy
 
I think the surest way to convince Iran that they NEED nukes would be to attack or invade them. This would also turn the populace against us, in a country where the people are mostly a lot more moderate than their leaders.

There are some pretty scary places that already have nukes - Russia, China, Pakistan. When you get nukes you join the MAD club. You know that if you are stupid enough to actually use them, you will be destroyed.
 
So after you've started some of the most divisive threads in EF history, participated in some of the most partisan name-calling and made some of the most snide and sarcastic comments on record, you've now decided that I should play nicely?

wait a sec, you're "seriously" accusing DB of being the name caller??? are you in some kind of fugue state? a magic carpet ride perhaps? sure you don't smoke weed? Although to be honest weed wouldn't get you where you are right now...it's gotta be something stronger cause you are tripping ballsack.

Dissociative amnesia: This disorder is characterized by a blocking out of critical personal information, usually of a traumatic or stressful nature. Dissociative amnesia, unlike other types of amnesia, does not result from other medical trauma (e.g. a blow to the head). Dissociative amnesia has several subtypes:


Localized amnesia is present in an individual who has no memory of specific events that took place, usually traumatic. The loss of memory is localized with a specific window of time. For example, a survivor of a car wreck who has no memory of the experience until two days later is experiencing localized amnesia.
Selective amnesia happens when a person can recall only small parts of events that took place in a defined period of time. For example, an abuse victim may recall only some parts of the series of events around the abuse.
Generalized amnesia is diagnosed when a person's amnesia encompasses his or her entire life.
Systematized amnesia is characterized by a loss of memory for a specific category of information. A person with this disorder might, for example, be missing all memories about one specific family member.

Dissociative fugue (This one has my vote) is a rare disorder. An individual with dissociative fugue suddenly and unexpectedly takes physical leave of his or her surroundings and sets off on a journey of some kind. These journeys can last hours, or even several days or months. Individuals experiencing a dissociative fugue have traveled over thousands of miles. An individual in a fugue state is unaware of or confused about his identity, and in some cases will assume a new identity (although this is the exception).

Dissociative identity disorder (DID), which has been known as multiple personality disorder, is the most famous of the dissociative disorders. An individual suffering from DID has more than one distinct identity or personality state that surfaces in the individual on a recurring basis. This disorder is also marked by differences in memory which vary with the individual's "alters," or other personalities. For more information on this, see the NAMI factsheet on dissociative identity disorder.

Depersonalization disorder is marked by a feeling of detachment or distance from one's own experience, body, or self. These feelings of depersonalization are recurrent. Of the dissociative disorders, depersonalization is the one most easily identified with by the general public; one can easily relate to feeling as they in a dream, or being "spaced out." Feeling out of control of one's actions and movements is something that people describe when intoxicated. An individual with depersonalization disorder has this experience so frequently and so severely that it interrupts his or her functioning and experience. A person's experience with depersonalization can be so severe that he or she believes the external world is unreal or distorted.
 
good post and i agree with some of it
"we send the CIA in to take out Ahmadinejad via assassination, there will not be much of a backlash from the indigenous people because they basically hate him"
but the moment we start murdering the hate towards the leadership turns into the most vigilant hatred of the usa and is played up as imperialism/racism/colonalism/etc...and the pop. will bite onto that with full force and then what? Iran is a bigass country boots on the ground would not be easy


Considering you are not a troll, I will be perfectly honest with you bro. I totally agree with that policy, if the U.S. decides to start whacking every dictator, there will be an enormous backlash. The Iranian people already have animosity towards the US because the large economic sanctions we levied them with. The sanctions are crippling their economy, they basically are westernized. I really do not believe Ahmadinejad is a serious threat, he is a wack-job, however, he knows not to fuck around with Israel. If Iran was close to being in the last stages of erecting nukes, make no mistake about it, Israel would do a preemptive strike, they do not care.. and they know ultimately the U.S. is their greatest ally... Even tho there is a little strain in our relations with Israel.

Ahmadinejad is a "traffic engineer," lololo... He is basically westernized, look how he dresses. Consequently, that pisses-off the right-wing religious groups. The Shiites hate him more than the indigenous people do, which I believe has him shook-up because they have the power to whack him, and they will. Hence, Ahmadinejad has to worry about the Shiites and Israel, before he does the U.S.. I think the U.S. takes a back seat and lets things play out. I believe the only reason the U.S. levied Iran with sanctions was to appease Israel.

Last, if we do start fighting every country in the Middle East, they will just unite and build a coalition. Iraq and Iran hate each other, but they would join forces just to destroy the U.S.. Just like Vietnam and China did, they hated each other but the Chinese aided the Vietnamese in order to spread communsim... The Vietnamese probably hated the Chinese more than they did the U.S., but their independence was so vital to them, they became China's ally in order to gain their independence----I think the same thing would happen in the Middle East, if we keep fucking around with everyone..

However, there is something called "tragedy of the commons," if we do not imperialize and take resources somebody else will, this ties in with human nature, there is some members of this site who will never understand that philosophy. I do not like it anymore than anyone else does. I would love to gather in a great big circle holding hands and sing Amazing Grace until we are blue in the face. Unfortunately, human nature prevents that from happening.. The older I get, the more ambivalent I become towards government policy... However, I rather be on the winning side..
 
acknowledge he has a valid point and move one. He's 100% right, when it becomes clear you've run out of intellectual steam you go right to the snarky names. You can't "unresist" it....:lmao:

The subtle beauty of this post is that you don't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend its irony.

I'll concede that Db has the smarts to similarly enjoy things like that.
 
wait a sec, you're "seriously" accusing DB of being the name caller??? are you in some kind of fugue state? a magic carpet ride perhaps? sure you don't smoke weed? Although to be honest weed wouldn't get you where you are right now...it's gotta be something stronger cause you are tripping ballsack.

Dissociative amnesia: This disorder is characterized by a blocking out of critical personal information, usually of a traumatic or stressful nature. Dissociative amnesia, unlike other types of amnesia, does not result from other medical trauma (e.g. a blow to the head). Dissociative amnesia has several subtypes:


Localized amnesia is present in an individual who has no memory of specific events that took place, usually traumatic. The loss of memory is localized with a specific window of time. For example, a survivor of a car wreck who has no memory of the experience until two days later is experiencing localized amnesia.
Selective amnesia happens when a person can recall only small parts of events that took place in a defined period of time. For example, an abuse victim may recall only some parts of the series of events around the abuse.
Generalized amnesia is diagnosed when a person's amnesia encompasses his or her entire life.
Systematized amnesia is characterized by a loss of memory for a specific category of information. A person with this disorder might, for example, be missing all memories about one specific family member.

Dissociative fugue (This one has my vote) is a rare disorder. An individual with dissociative fugue suddenly and unexpectedly takes physical leave of his or her surroundings and sets off on a journey of some kind. These journeys can last hours, or even several days or months. Individuals experiencing a dissociative fugue have traveled over thousands of miles. An individual in a fugue state is unaware of or confused about his identity, and in some cases will assume a new identity (although this is the exception).

Dissociative identity disorder (DID), which has been known as multiple personality disorder, is the most famous of the dissociative disorders. An individual suffering from DID has more than one distinct identity or personality state that surfaces in the individual on a recurring basis. This disorder is also marked by differences in memory which vary with the individual's "alters," or other personalities. For more information on this, see the NAMI factsheet on dissociative identity disorder.

Depersonalization disorder is marked by a feeling of detachment or distance from one's own experience, body, or self. These feelings of depersonalization are recurrent. Of the dissociative disorders, depersonalization is the one most easily identified with by the general public; one can easily relate to feeling as they in a dream, or being "spaced out." Feeling out of control of one's actions and movements is something that people describe when intoxicated. An individual with depersonalization disorder has this experience so frequently and so severely that it interrupts his or her functioning and experience. A person's experience with depersonalization can be so severe that he or she believes the external world is unreal or distorted.

tl; dr
 
The subtle beauty of this post is that you don't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend its irony.

I'll concede that Db has the smarts to similarly enjoy things like that.


There is zero irony to it. Ur just claiming irony because your ego is demanding it.
 
Wasn't round brown going to post up an Iran policy for us?

Java manned-up and posted one. I don't see round brown's -- did I miss it?
 
WWI? Are you saying the Zimmerman Telegram was a real threat to America? WWI was a war of choice by the United States and had the United States not intervened the British, French and Italians would have been forced to make a peace treaty with the Central Powers that would have precluded WWII in Europe. The Treaty of Versailles almost guaranteed WWII and many historians consider WWII a continuation of WWI.
Pearl Harbor, thanks for making my point, the United States had instituted a steel and oil embargo against Japan; When they (Japanese General Staff)decide to attack Pearl Harbor the IJN had six months of oil reserves which was enough to attack United States interests in the Pacific and seize the oil reserves in Indonesia. Their hand was forced via a United States embargo...
That being said, I don't see a coherent policy from you that prevents Iran from developing nukes or continuing to influence southwest Asia.
Also, news break...Iran just captured an intact version of the most advanced drone in the U.S. arsenal; It's basically a scaled down version of the stealth bomber...with all the advanced avionics.
Bolded: Ummm NO I was talking Pearl Harbor you Tard! We had not made any attacks prior to that. Sittting back and not making a stance cost us Pearl Harbor.
You claim I helped make your point? WTF? You said we shouldn't do anything unless we are attacked. I said sitting back and doing nothing costs America.

You think Isolationism will keep America safe. You think that the fundamental idea of hating Western culture is going to just go the fuck away? Your not only naive, but your out of touch with the resolve of Radical Islam. When we are out of Iraq and Afghanistan there will still be terrorist bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe, Turkey, Israel, ect. WHY? Because no matter what there will be a faction of people that hate What Western Culture stands for. They will hate the fact that women have rights, they will hate Christianity they will hate Jewdaism.
 
Last time I checked...the United States is farther than 600 miles from Iran....just sayin...If Israel disappeared tomorrow it would only reduce the United States deficit (foreign aid) and reduce the hatred of the United States in southwest Asia...There are three reasons Muslims hate us based on government reports...killing them, occupying their land, and supporting Israel.

I asked for a reason OTHER than Israel....just sayin'.
Last time I checked Afghanistan is over 600 miles away too. Jus' sayin'
Last time I checked Japan is over 600 miles away
Last time I checked the USS Cole was over 600 miles from Afghanistan/Iran jus' sayin'

So guilty by association is what cost us 3000+ lives on American soil? So we have to stop supporting all of our allies like they want and we will be safe?
You have no idea of Middle Easter culture. Folding like a cheap suit doesn't work out well. It might be easy for you, but America isn't a Cheap Suit.


To stop hatred of America we would have to Adopt the livestyles of Orthidoxed Islam. They hate our way of life (radicalist).
There are more than 3 reasons Coffee.
The world is not that black ans white.
 
So is that your Iran policy?

"Takig a colllelctive producative offfence"

What exactly does that mean? You're saying a whole lot of nothing.
You keep asking me but have none of your own. You defer to have Coffee validate you.
You want me to respond to you so you can just disagree, although you dont have your own position. (as you stated earlier in the thread). Weak.....
 
Last time I checked...the United States is farther than 600 miles from Iran....just sayin...If Israel disappeared tomorrow it would only reduce the United States deficit (foreign aid) and reduce the hatred of the United States in southwest Asia...There are three reasons Muslims hate us based on government reports...killing them, occupying their land, and supporting Israel.

I asked for a reason OTHER than Israel....just sayin'.
How amusing that you only responed to that ONE post. You ignored the DEATH to America chants, the fact that the Iranian government offical said America must be destroyed....

Must be nice to pick and choose what you see as reality.
 
Bolded: Ummm NO I was talking Pearl Harbor you Tard! We had not made any attacks prior to that. Sittting back and not making a stance cost us Pearl Harbor.
You claim I helped make your point? WTF? You said we shouldn't do anything unless we are attacked. I said sitting back and doing nothing costs America.

You think Isolationism will keep America safe. You think that the fundamental idea of hating Western culture is going to just go the fuck away? Your not only naive, but your out of touch with the resolve of Radical Islam. When we are out of Iraq and Afghanistan there will still be terrorist bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe, Turkey, Israel, ect. WHY? Because no matter what there will be a faction of people that hate What Western Culture stands for. They will hate the fact that women have rights, they will hate Christianity they will hate Jewdaism.
"War is politics by other means." -Carl Von Clausewitz, from "On War"

The United States embargoed Japan of essential materials (oil and steel). Pearl Harbor was a direct result of United States policy that was supposed to reign in Japanese regional ambitions but lead to a war that cost countless lives.

All of the recent domestic terrorist plots have been initiated by people claiming the U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan motivated them; Perhaps you have more information to share with us that substantiates the propaganda position that they hate America for our freedom? Based on information released from the 9/11 commission and the CIA..they hate us because we are over there, killing them and supporting Israel.

Former head of the CIA Bin Laden unit discusses the threats to the United States in southwest Asia... I assume he knows something about radical Islam...

 
How amusing that you only responed to that ONE post. You ignored the DEATH to America chants, the fact that the Iranian government offical said America must be destroyed....

Must be nice to pick and choose what you see as reality.

Politicians do what politicians do...hating America in southwest Asia is like an American politician claiming they're tough on crime...It's a no brainer...Our BFF's in southwest, Saudi Arabia, southwest Asia support America hate...lolol...What is your policy to contain Saudi Arabia?

 
Lol @ your entire post..

First, Jefferson conned Napoleon... He knew he needed money to fund his wars, which Jefferson knew the French were going to lose (spreaded his army to thin).

Lol @ Ben Franklin using diplomacy with the French.. He was another con-man. The French hated the British, they would have done anything to get rid of them.. You forgot to mention the French sent some ground troops too.. America was desperate, they would have taken money from the Devil...

Lol @ supporting all them other dictators---the fuckin' CIA put them all in power...

Lol @ your foreign policy---spoken like a true pussy, I should not expect anything less from a Quaker...

Lol @ your redneck buddy, is he still traumatized from what Sherman did his great-great granddaddy? Christ they did not have electricity until 1935, being a Quaker, I am sure you can empathize..

Oh my, I am sure you both would have burned your bras---learn the real meaning behind that..


Seriously, have you ever been experienced? Well I have (Hendrix).... If you were, all you did was capture a few demoralized stragglers. Mother Green and her killing machine went on a mass murder spree...


Realpolitiks rock!!!

I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like 'brilliant,' it would really be an under description of the absolutely superb job that they did in breaching the so-called 'impenetrable barrier.' It was a classic- absolutely classic- military breaching of a very very tough minefield, barbed wire, fire trenches-type barrier.
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, U. S. Army
Commander, Operation Desert Storm, February 1991

No,Napoleon sold the Louisiana purchase because it was the breadbasket for their sugar empire....Once they lost Haiti it was pointless to maintain an empire in north America.

I know, beating up third world criminals and poorly trained/equipped rabble are the bread and butter of the B team they have used to market for an undeserved reputation...Once the marines finally face a first rate military force they might earn some respect. Google Bastogne...lool..The Marines faced untrained conscripts in Desert Storm...which was why the heavy lifting was left to the Army...


You must be enraged that marine tankers are taught about this battle when they learn their MOS; The last great tank battle of the 20th century...
 
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You keep asking me but have none of your own. You defer to have Coffee validate you.
You want me to respond to you so you can just disagree, although you dont have your own position. (as you stated earlier in the thread). Weak.....

Both Java and I have already stated our policy on what should be done about Iran: Nothing.

Let me refresh your memory:

Unless we're ready to declare war on them, there's nothing we can substantially do about Iran. We don't have the money or the will to enter into yet another middle east war.

So now enlighten us Round Brown, how does your Iran policy differ from what JG and I believe?

So yet again I'll ask you.

What's your Iran policy?
 
half the people pay nothing
the other half, and on an extreme sliding scale
pay for them
roads,ambulances, fuck everything half pay nothing
fuck you
 
nigger rich president, what with him vacations ervey other month
"pay their fair share"
shit
fuck you
nigger rich
 
"nigger rich" is an old southern term for a
negroe that has got wealth and power real quick
like out of the blue
and then they behave like
nigger rich
just like our president
spending the country into oblivion and vacationing
asshole
 
what was the derogatory term for the Chinese "coolie" labor that carved out the railways through the rockies?
while the niggers picked cotton
fuck
 
and no bellyaching from the chinese
or japanese
or
fuck
but them damn niggers whine and whine
it's the big wink, wink
don't let 'em know they're apes
 
and they're bitchin' about being slaves
shit
goody gumdrops you got exposed to "modern man" in the new world
instead of that shit bush you lived in
spears while white man had gunpowder and was navigating the globe
 
mixed race peeps are taking over pro sports
there are no pure blacks doing particle physics
yellowcake whatever
 
so what is your solution Spartacus?

I think we continue to encourage fat/ugly white girls to procreate with blacks, but remove all welfare mechanisms such that; black boy ejaculates in you, your deal
like in Ukraine where the woman is responsible for the baby
so back on topic;
we need a few fugly/fat white girls to have babies with the black
because black on black babies get aborted or die in a drug crime(s)
 
yeah I've considred your conumdrum
and/or dilemma
how to posture my gal such that she appeals to the horny negroe
and snatch her away because I'm "her guy"?
 
No,Napoleon sold the Louisiana purchase because it was the breadbasket for their sugar empire....Once they lost Haiti it was pointless to maintain an empire in north America.

I know, beating up third world criminals and poorly trained/equipped rabble are the bread and butter of the B team they have used to market for an undeserved reputation...Once the marines finally face a first rate military force they might earn some respect. Google Bastogne...lool..The Marines faced untrained conscripts in Desert Storm...which was why the heavy lifting was left to the Army...


You must be enraged that marine tankers are taught about this battle when they learn their MOS; The last great tank battle of the 20th century...


Lol...Now jealousy will get you nowhere, didn't they teach you that on Walton Mountain? Jesus will punish you... Why you trying to disparage the greatest organization in the history of the world?? The Marines left Iraq 2 yrs ago because there was no one left to kill, they left the Army back to do head counts..Damn, it took them 2 yrs to count all them KIAs... They are just leaving.. Lol..

Now, Murderers' Row are in Afghan showing Al-Qaeda love... Foaming at the mouth with 2ft erections like a pack wild crazed maniacs---committing genocide everywhere we go... and delivering every dictators head straight to the Oval Office.. Wiping out ecosystems, because our name is called "disturbance." Just like we did in 1991.. ONE-NINE RODE-OUT IN NINE-ONE!!

I suppose all your policies are spoken through them lame YouTube Videos--- that a boy, let everyone else do the talking and walking for you.. Just like I did the walking for you in Desert Storm.. I know you are a "conscientious objector."

Lol @ Jefferson not conning Napoleon...

Fyi, we show everyone love!!!








The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.

"Semper Fidelis"

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978
 
WWI? Are you saying the Zimmerman Telegram was a real threat to America? WWI was a war of choice by the United States and had the United States not intervened the British, French and Italians would have been forced to make a peace treaty with the Central Powers that would have precluded WWII in Europe. The Treaty of Versailles almost guaranteed WWII and many historians consider WWII a continuation of WWI.

The zimmerman telegram was such a political fail, Woodrow was looking to get in on the blood and guts and this tipped his hand and helped turn the populace against germany...which up to this point had been largely indifferent or pro-german...the lithstansia (sp) sinking was another critical point, but honestly it was a scam too, the ship was clearly shipping cladestine armaments and thus was a legit target for germany mercahnt hunters.
and i don't believe a peace different than vesailles in ww1 would've prevented ww2 entirely...would this peace have included returning all of germany's eastern gains made via the peace with russia (under russia's duress?) cause if it wouldn't have sooner or later when the russian's regrouped that would've been a point of contention solved by invasion...lenin was biding his time...and if germany did give back the eastern lands their desire for lebensraum would've pushed them east eventually leading to conflict with russia and their western allies.
how would this non-versailles peace solved belgiums netrality violations, or alsace-lorraine?
or what about turkey and their empire...without the treaty the breakup of this juggernaut would've spurred conflict between the western nations
 
"nigger rich" is an old southern term for a
negroe that has got wealth and power real quick
like out of the blue
and then they behave like
nigger rich
just like our president
spending the country into oblivion and vacationing
asshole

it's not an old southern term. How far back do southern blacks and wealth power go together? Bout 15-20 minutes.

And you still got the definition wrong. It's trying to look rich when you really aren't, like leasing a bmw m5 when you still live with mom.

Crackers these days....
 
it's not an old southern term. How far back do southern blacks and wealth power go together? Bout 15-20 minutes.

And you still got the definition wrong. It's trying to look rich when you really aren't, like leasing a bmw m5 when you still live with mom.

Crackers these days....

white bros are just as guilty of this, see it all the time...pos house, child support late, bill galore, but jacked up new f150 and name brand smokes.
we as a nation are so fuct regardless of rayce
 
"nigger rich" is an old southern term for a
negroe that has got wealth and power real quick
like out of the blue
and then they behave like
nigger rich
just like our president
spending the country into oblivion and vacationing
asshole

No. "Nigger rich" means you've got a big thick wad of green bills in your front pocket. But it represents your entire net worth. Usually a $100 bill on the outside, covering a 1/4" thick stack of $1 bills.
 
Lol...Now jealousy will get you nowhere, didn't they teach you that on Walton Mountain? Jesus will punish you... Why you trying to disparage the greatest organization in the history of the world?? The Marines left Iraq 2 yrs ago because there was no one left to kill, they left the Army back to do head counts..Damn, it took them 2 yrs to count all them KIAs... They are just leaving.. Lol..

Now, Murderers' Row are in Afghan showing Al-Qaeda love... Foaming at the mouth with 2ft erections like a pack wild crazed maniacs---committing genocide everywhere we go... and delivering every dictators head straight to the Oval Office.. Wiping out ecosystems, because our name is called "disturbance." Just like we did in 1991.. ONE-NINE RODE-OUT IN NINE-ONE!!

I suppose all your policies are spoken through them lame YouTube Videos--- that a boy, let everyone else do the talking and walking for you.. Just like I did the walking for you in Desert Storm.. I know you are a "conscientious objector."

Lol @ Jefferson not conning Napoleon...

Fyi, we show everyone love!!!








The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.

"Semper Fidelis"

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978

best post ever
I might read it
 
Lol...Now jealousy will get you nowhere, didn't they teach you that on Walton Mountain? Jesus will punish you... Why you trying to disparage the greatest organization in the history of the world?? The Marines left Iraq 2 yrs ago because there was no one left to kill, they left the Army back to do head counts..Damn, it took them 2 yrs to count all them KIAs... They are just leaving.. Lol..

Now, Murderers' Row are in Afghan showing Al-Qaeda love... Foaming at the mouth with 2ft erections like a pack wild crazed maniacs---committing genocide everywhere we go... and delivering every dictators head straight to the Oval Office.. Wiping out ecosystems, because our name is called "disturbance." Just like we did in 1991.. ONE-NINE RODE-OUT IN NINE-ONE!!

I suppose all your policies are spoken through them lame YouTube Videos--- that a boy, let everyone else do the talking and walking for you.. Just like I did the walking for you in Desert Storm.. I know you are a "conscientious objector."

Lol @ Jefferson not conning Napoleon...

Fyi, we show everyone love!!!








The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.

"Semper Fidelis"

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978

I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow
and btw the Israeli Merkava main battle tank is superior to the Abrams
especially in cityfights
 
it's not an old southern term. How far back do southern blacks and wealth power go together? Bout 15-20 minutes.

And you still got the definition wrong. It's trying to look rich when you really aren't, like leasing a bmw m5 when you still live with mom.

Crackers these days....

like this time I buried someone in an old country cemetery
and back in the back was a section with a nice (for 1800 or so) memorial surrounded by graves marked with less splendid grave markers. But the 20 or so one could tell were in a "section".
see that was the slave owner being buried with his slaves
and if you think I'm shitin' you
they couldn't forecast the die pattern
 
I'm racist but I'm not prejudiced
like I don't see a Chinese guy and automatically assume he's good at calculus
 
but I wouldn't want my wife and/or girlfriend to go into the neighborhoods where I score drugs
 
Politicians do what politicians do...hating America in southwest Asia is like an American politician claiming they're tough on crime...It's a no brainer...Our BFF's in southwest, Saudi Arabia, southwest Asia support America hate...lolol...What is your policy to contain Saudi Arabia?

On to the videos... Whatever. How about you take your "J.D." and fly over to the middle east and do some serious ground pounding research instead of youdtube-ing fake opinions.
Ask some of the folks over there their opinions. then get back to me.
Until the your opinion is useless. You just sit and armchair Prophesize. Prophesize from your little bubble of life. .. its kind of pitiful.
 
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