brazilian jiu jitsu vs

[Freak Nasty]

Ive done MT, FMA, JKD and currently am a blue belt in BJJ. In the beginning I was like nothing can beat BJJ, but here is the catcher:

vs karate and kung fu:

JKD/KF might give the BJJ player some reluctence to go in for the leg takedowns, but other take downs are only a clinch away. Karate chops and stuff like that have defenses in BJJ. Kicks in KF are meant for distractive purposes to get close in and maybe do some traping. Again be careful. this closeness is what the BJJer likes. One minute your going in for a pak-sau and the next your on your back getting arm-barred.

vs TKD: As with other stand up arts you got to watch the hands. Unfortantly for TKD'ers their legs are their main weapons. With no knee development in tkd they are a easy target to grab the leg or go for hip throws. Get in close and throw is their way to defeat. Once on the ground it might as well be a beagle vs a lion.

vs MT:
This martial arts is dangerous for the BJJ player. For the BJJ player (BJJP) he must get the MT Player (MTP) on the ground to be effective. The clinch will be no good because MTP's can do serious damage from the clinch. The best advice is to maybe grab a leg during a kick (yes it can be done) and go for the take down. Single and double legs can be dangerious because of knees.
Hands are out question as well. Get clocked by a MT and watch the BJJer go down. Sure 95% of the fights end on the ground. Why? Cause you were knocked out or you got a sucessful takedown?

 

[shamrock11]

One of the biggest things I see in this thread and about bjj is people keep bringing up the gracie's and how many people they have defeated. This is all well and good, but just b/c they have done it doesn't mean everyone who takes bjj can do it. You are taking some of the top bjj practionicers and saying everyone who take bjj can do this, not by far. You can't take the best people in an art and say it great b/c these great fighter an beat these people. What make an art great is being able to take the average fighter and make him better. As I have said many times, it's not the art that make the fighter it the fighter that makes the art. If you take your art seriously and use it to the best of it's ability you can stand up against anyone. You may not win everytime (and nobody ever does), but you can hold your own. It's all about how INTELLIGENTLY you use what you know.

 

[casualbb]

also keep in mind that the rules of MMA competitions protect BJJ practitioners. if some bjj guy tries to pull me into guard, I'm punching his nuts. no fucking around.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

also keep in mind that the rules of MMA competitions protect BJJ practitioners. if some bjj guy tries to pull me into guard, I'm punching his nuts. no fucking around.

Yeah, well in a street fight I would dig my fingers deep into his eye sockets and twist... I guess we are talking about competition more so than street fighting... are we?



-BRR

 

[Ripped2Shredds]

I would have to say anyone who has a good Kick boxing and Muay Thai skills are FAR better off on there feet, BJJ is a pure ground game, but...I wrestled for 15 years, I fought a guy about 3 weeks ago that is a well known kick boxer in the area, he jabbed me in the nose, kicked me in the side, he was off balance so I shot in deep, he bellied out after hitting a table and on the way down i heard him think to him think to him self...."I'm screwed"....and then from there i pounded him until the cops came, but he was 35 and i was 20, walked away with a lil bruise on the lip....LOL...So i feel that a good ground game is important, but I trained Russian SAMBO for 8 years with the same wrestling instructor, and BJJ for 2, judo for 2, pretty well mixed, but never did boxing or stand up till now, Muay Thai and kick boxing...so if u like BJJ, try kick boxing or something, be well versed, cause in a bar its usually like 3-4 punches then someon goes to the ground, but you wont use an armbar there, allthough i did see a guys arm snap in Woody's one night, dude was in some pain from a armbar...lol

 

[Yarg!]

youve been wrestling since 5?

 

[Ripped2Shredds]

yes sir, my good friends started at 3, my first match was on February 23rd, 1990. I was in a tournament of 16 people and placed third...My dad was so freaking stoked, put it this way, gorwing up in grade school, i never had a problem defending my self, lol...so parents get your kids involved in wrestling young, it teaches hard values and establishes personal self gratitude. A lot of Politicians were former wrestlers, I'm not talking about Jessy the Body Ventura, but like Dick Cheney, and there are others, btw, i didn tmean to steal this post...But to answer your question, I wrslted for the Little Devils at age 5, till 14, then in highschool i wreslted for Belleville West High School, then for SIUE, now I am done with god blessed knee problems, maybe the wrestling for 15 years...

 

[Strangle Hold]

If the choices had no BJJ it would be fairly easy.
You say that all you need to do is sprawl and it won't get to the ground?
I've never not gotten someone down.
Doesn't always happen on the first attempt but I do end up getting them down.
My size helps though as I'm 250 pounds....
With a wrestling background before Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

 

[Kane Fan]

Id rather fight a black belt in any of those four (or experienced in muay thai), than a black belt in BJJ. If you know BJJ, you can always bring them to your world and mess them up (the ground). Where as, if youre any of these others(stand up), once your down, you have nothing and the BJJ can just keep taking u down. But of those 4, Id most rather not fight a muay thai guy, theyre tough as hell and strikes won't phase them.

if that last part where true there would be a lot more draws in Muay Thai don't you think?
you are right tho that is some serious hitting power
but you can't say that because BJJ is grappling based they'll easily take down the other guys
that just isn't how it works
especially if the other guys have trained with some takedown defence
a BJJ Black Belt is hell to deal with on the ground but if he has a weakstriking game work takedown defence and he's just another newbie basically

 

[Kane Fan]

BJJ is definately the best most effective martial art. Mix it with some Muay Thai and youre a certified badass. Karate and taekwondo are BULLSHIT. Kung Fu and wu shu are cool to watch in movies

lol
I love you BJJ-aholics, I really do
so you mean to tell me the best martial art is one that offers no strike training (or defence) and has as a rule generally weak takedowns...
brilliant