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Bottle came short

Bobber

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I finishd my bottle of Boldenon 200 today and I was 3/4 cc short. I heard that they overdosed the bottles, maybe my other one will be right. Could having used a1.5 inch needle messed it up? Here is a pic of the bottle:
 
It could be the 1.5 inch that's what I used on my first bottle of tt eq and I only got about 9ml on the second bottle I used a 1 inch and got 10ml so on my next bottle I'm going to draw with a .5 inch pin I expect to get 11ml out of it.
 
liftsiron said:
It could be the 1.5 inch that's what I used on my first bottle of tt eq and I only got about 9ml on the second bottle I used a 1 inch and got 10ml so on my next bottle I'm going to draw with a .5 inch pin I expect to get 11ml out of it.
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Would a half inch pin go in far enough?
 
Bobber, if you always push in the amount of air=to the amount of AAS you want to take out, you shouldn't have a problem.... If you keep the bottle upright with the pin below it, even when you're at the end, you should be able to get everything, and almost always be exact.
 
Well from my personal experience, Ttokyo seems to have a tendency to underdose their bottles. My last bottle of their deca only yielded about 8 cc's max! I no of others, whop have claimed to come up way short with their winny. Still some of their products are priced right, such as the deca, test (although I've heard so many complaints about both their sust and cypionate that I wouldn't bother) and EQ, although personally I think EQ sucks.
 
I just got finished with a bottle and it had exactly 8cc in it. That is 400 mg shy. It fucked my cycle up. Its good stuff but they fucking rip you. If they are such a legit company than why cant they properly measure 10cc's? I mean If I pay for 10ccs and the bottle says it has 10ccs----(I dont remember it saying 10cc's +/- 2cc's)--then I should recieve 10cc's.

The Agent
 
I honestly doubt the bottle was short I can't remember who posted it awhile back but I think it was mustang or slopain about why people think bottles are short. but pretty much it is becuase you put back to the 1cc mark which is more then a cc when you figure in the gear in the needle and the top of the pin because the one cc mark goes from top to 1 cc next time you pull a pin pull it out of the bottle and pull it down to the 2cc mark and I bet after the oil settles it will be over the 1 cc mark meaning it is more then a cc
 
Look man,

WTF?
I have used plenty of 10cc vials and got 10cc out of them every time. Did you hear what I said? It was 2cc's short. Do you honestly think that out of 6 shots I lost 2cc's worth of stuff? I have read your post at least 20 times and I still cant figure out what the second half of your post is saying--It makes no sense whatsoever. Please explain yourself.

The Agent
 
what I am saying is that each time you pull the oil you are actually pull more then what you think are pulling becuase when the Syringe is pointing upward and your pull the oil to the 1cc marker or whatever you pull it out too that marker is not taking into account the oil in the needle. to adjust for that you need to pull a little less then the 1cc mark on the Syringe. then to check how much you have pull the needle out of the bottle and pull back on the plunger until you are at the 2cc mark and then the oil should reach the 1cc meaning you have 1cc. once you have done this and know how much you need to adjust for then you will not have to do this for each pull you will know how much oil the needle holds.
rich
 
Bobber I was only joking about the .5 inch pin, stick with 1.5 remember (deep intramuscular injection) is what we want here. I use 1.5 glutes and 1 inch shoulders and triceps I use either for quads. I've not come up short with ttoykko products.
 
I have used many 10cc vials and it seems like most of the time the content is off.

Usually between 8.5 to 10 cc per bottle

When I plan a cycle I factor in a 5% loss when counting the mg that come from multi-use vials.
 
I think that there is a little confusion here. Underdosed does not mean underfilled. You guys are talking about your vials being underfilled (not underdosed -- no talk about the mg/cc content). The bottle claims to have 10ml @ 200mg/ml; if the mg/ml is higher than the 200mg/ml claim but underfilled then you still get what you paid for (2000 mg of test cyp +/- 10% of bottle claim). Until you know what the concentration of your vial/batch is, then you really have no idea if you got what you paid for (although if you come out with 10 ml it is quite a bit of peace of mind). just some food for thought. As a side note I always take into account that most vials will come up underfilled so I buy more to make up for that (since I don't know what the concentration is without a lab test and I don't know anyone that can test anything). Later bros.


DreamingBig
 
WTF

The difference of oil left in a pin, be it 1" or 1.5", at what 22 or 23G!!?? C'mon. enough to use up a complete cc???
Your bottle were shorted on quantity.
 
I agree with Italmonster about the air thing. I kept putting more and more air into the bottle to the pointwhere it was extremely easy to draw the juice and some would actually drip out when I pulled out, but it was only like a drop.
 
It does get that way, I just preloaded 2 vials of boldenon to test it out..... I only drew to the 1ml, then pulled back and made sure that was all I had. The first bottle had 10.4cc, the second bottle had 8.5.... Oh well, lost 1.1cc, not that bad...:p
 
Glass imperfections and drawing techniques lead people to believe they are missing fluids. Ive posted it like 3 times and it always gets bounced back and of course the ones coming up short take it like Im cursing there mamas or something b/c I suggest that their steroid injecting/drawing technique isn't completly accurate lol(like 1.25 or so instead). Long story short is the bottles are filled within less than a CC (ttokkyo and denkall are I didnt try any others) sometimes your down 1ml or less sometimes your up 1ml or less.

If you only lose .125ml on an injection and you inject 10 times from one bottle you are already off by 1.25ml's do you know how easy it is to over draw (I know you muscle heads arent underdrawing heheh cant blame ya!) .125ml?? Also take into account the first ml of a syringe isnt accurate and can in itself be hiding .125ml in the area before the first hash mark and the pin itself of couse.

Please don't take it personal its just true..
 
SLOPAIN SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

Look I guarantee that if you measured out the bottle before you started using your solution of choice you would see that it is an ID-10-T user error you know I-D-I-O-T. I even went so far as to bust out my big 10cc plunger and test TTOKKYO EQ and it was fine also testenon and the DEC. So I have no clue what you are all saying, maybe you can enlighten me..........
 
[email][email protected][/email] said:
SLOPAIN SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.

Look I guarantee that if you measured out the bottle before you started using your solution of choice you would see that it is an ID-10-T user error you know I-D-I-O-T. I even went so far as to bust out my big 10cc plunger and test TTOKKYO EQ and it was fine also testenon and the DEC. So I have no clue what you are all saying, maybe you can enlighten me..........
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lol Ive never heard that befor ID-10-T user error, hahah I like that Im going to use that, hehehe :D
 
THE FIRST CC IS ALWAYS SLIGHTLY MORE! Take into account the volume in the cone. I placed many(I mean many!) 10cc vial next to each other. All TT eq200 and T-200 and Nor200. Out of all those vials, they were almost dead on! So they are all underfilled?? I doubt it. If a vial is marked 10cc why would it be underdosed?? I have also used Nor200/50 and you know what? It was just about 50cc's. Take a brand new 10cc bottle of whatever you choose. Take a 10cc syringe and draw it all out at once. I bet you will be dead on or pretty damm close. I am sick of hearing all these people complaining about this bullshit! First you should always have more then you need just in case. That is just to be on the safe side. Secondly if you all complain about Mex products, then stop using them! They are cheap and good. I have no complaints. Measure more carefully.
 
I always draw out a cc then a little bit more, after about 8 injections in this manner I've used about 8.5 or 8.75 cc just as slopain has pointed out.
 
dahmer,

I understand the concept of what you are saying but you said we all should have extra anyways. Well, you must have money to burn but I dont. You guys have a good point though. I will check myself next time and see if this is what Is causing the confusion.

The Agent
 
I just tested it while making my fina batch. Got 24ml yeild by the way ha ha ha. I was using a 18g needle so I know that is bigger than we inject with but many people use this to draw with. Anyway, I pulled my 2cc for later use and the held the needle up in the air and drew air and the pushed it back to the end and had 2.25cc's....Hound Dog
 
Well I guess its nice to know al the factors that can affect dosage.With this bottle I am going to ty and get every last drop:D
 
Try this...

When you do a scheduled shot take 0.1cc less and this should give you very close to your 10cc when the bottle is empty.

Like others have said the needle barrel can hold 0.1 - 0.2 cc so if you do 10 shots with a bottle you can be off by 1-2 cc.

So if you want 1.5 cc of Deca300 take in 1.4 instead
 
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