Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routine

[the_alcatraz]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

lol...

i think everyone is saying the same thing but no one wants to accept that the other person is correct.

CEO is saying- when you work on powerlifting programs you get insane raw muscle which you can sculpt later on by dieting and all.
but you get a lot of extra raw "thickness" which is useful later on.

and i think all others have agreed with him at some point.

so why all this argument.


PS: on a personal note i would love to have "overdeveloped" forearms and quads like that dude..

The dude is awesome. No one is arguing that. All we're saying is powerlifting has it's competition and bodybuilding has its competition. They are not the same thing. One is raw brute power and the other is overall aesthetic muscle development. One cannot easily convert into the other. It takes times. You cant just diet down from a powerbuilder to a bodybuilder and expect to win. It doesnt happen that way.

 

[chuds]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

The dude is awesome. No one is arguing that. All we're saying is powerlifting has it's competition and bodybuilding has its competition. They are not the same thing. One is raw brute power and the other is overall aesthetic muscle development. One cannot easily convert into the other. It takes times. You cant just diet down from a powerbuilder to a bodybuilder and expect to win. It doesnt happen that way.

it will take time i agree on that one, maybe a lot of it too but it will be possible.

 

[nzrodney]

Re: Post up your bodybuilding training problems and I'll help you develop a new routi

lay out 5 separate pages of a newspaper flat on the floor. With one hand, crumble each newspaper page until it is a small ball. Do five pages with each hand daily. Your forearms will grow in four weeks.

you can also do very heavy hammer curls - they will affect forearms...
rope hammer curls with holding weight on top will also put additional stress and develop forearms

If you take the normal hammer curl & bring it around in front of your body, it hits the forearms at a more advantaged angle.

 

[SaiBoT]

Re: Post up your bodybuilding training problems and I'll help you develop a new routi

If you take the normal hammer curl & bring it around in front of your body, it hits the forearms at a more advantaged angle.

Those are called pin wheels or mid line curls and yes they are helpful.

There is a post somewhere on this forum showing a guy doing it with 125lbs dbls fucking awesome.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Re: Post up your bodybuilding training problems and I'll help you develop a new routi

If you take the normal hammer curl & bring it around in front of your body, it hits the forearms at a more advantaged angle.

yeh bro. I do pin wheels as well...I'm actually very strong with them...I do em with 90 lbs (no cheating) - 105 lbs (cheating)

 

[ceo]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

lol...

i think everyone is saying the same thing but no one wants to accept that the other person is correct.

CEO is saying- when you work on powerlifting programs you get insane raw muscle which you can sculpt later on by dieting and all.
but you get a lot of extra raw "thickness" which is useful later on.

and i think all others have agreed with him at some point.

so why all this argument.


PS: on a personal note i would love to have "overdeveloped" forearms and quads like that dude..

shhh! You and I know that. And these guys have already agreed with what I originally said and have always maintained:

You can't achieve that much thickness without a powerlifting backgroun. You can almost always tell who had a powerlifter's background.

I agree that a powerlifting is way superior to build quality muscle that looks great even when relaxed!

Powerlifting is the best for building a solid foundation

It's just that they like to argue silly semantics, and I'm just playing their game and having fun while I can.

They know what I mean, and no matter how verbose I am in explaining it, they'll find a point with which to be cantankerous. So, I'm obliging them.

I do lol @ traz picking apart a guy that looks better than 99% of EF (even the late Gaurdian, RIP) though.

Traz you're just too predictable. Saibot was just a bonus.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

shhh! You and I know that. And these guys have already agreed with what I originally said and have always maintained:

It's just that they like to argue silly semantics, and I'm just playing their game and having fun while I can.

They know what I mean, and no matter how verbose I am in explaining it, they'll find a point with which to be cantankerous. So, I'm obliging them.

I do lol @ traz picking apart a guy that looks better than 99% of EF (even the late Gaurdian, RIP) though.

Traz you're just too predictable. Saibot was just a bonus.

I pick apart Olympians when I watch Mr. O bro,,it's because this game is about perfection...I will probably never look like any of these guys, but that doesn't mean I don't understand and know what looks good and what doesnt...

I agree with a lot of what you said above, but I say it again....let the powerlifters do their thing...they are not bodybuilders...on stage, they will be a lot bigger than bodybuilders, but they will NOT beat bodybuilders with a powerlifting routine until they have switched their entire routine, lifestyle, diet into that of a bodybuilder's

This is not about semantics or wording...and using big words like verbose is not your style

It seems everyone is predictable these days

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

I think this is a great thread. The way alc and ceo are going back and forth and having a debate is great. Every one talking and learning. People giving there incite experence and knowledge. Lots of people have been enjoying this thread.

Lets keep it that way. remember Ceo and alc are on the same team. Helping others and learning from one another team. No one has to be right. Whats right for alc is not right for ceo.


I will say this. IMO every one thinking about being a body builder should spend a few good years training heavy and working on core lifts. Even Joe weider fag boy says this. Any one trying to Just get a better looking body can prob skip this but its not the best idea.

Set a foundation of core muscle on which to build on. IMO every one should do this and I know this is what ceo is getting at.

NOW!!!! on to a few things I want to happen.

1. negative comments about the site. Come on you know who you are lets not see that crap. It helps no one. Instead of saying things like that invest time into making things better. Please.

2. I understand threads like this can get heated at times, but there really is no need for them to. Take the aggression out on the gym boys not your fellow ef members,mods and mentors.

3. We have all the makes of a great site. Many guys with knowledge. ceo,alc,Scotsman,thaidi,tat,Big_BK,al420, and so many more. Some have been powerlifting for years,some have competed in power lifting or body building comps,some are gunning for pro cards and all are in good shape.

We can take this foundation much like a power lifters foundation and make it a master peace. Ef is the melting post. Many people go to many other sites to get info and that is great. We can all come back together here on ef and bring it all together. We do not need to be negative.


Thank you to all the good bro's in this thread. Peace.

 

[SaiBoT]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

I still think that guy needs bodybuilding to bring up "some areas" and if he doesn't cares about bodybuilding why would he diet down, carb deplet and carb load etc, etc, etc? last time I checked looking shredded is not powerlifting stuff... You are correct at some extent but omitting some points I brought up to question, like overgrown glutes, thick waists and yes the lagging bodyparts are not gonna get solved with powerlifting...

I won't be discussing this anymore because I think you proved your point and I proved mine. And besides I don't want be acused of supporting bodybuilding over powerlifting because I strive for strength and functional hypertrophy not for a being someboy poster boy, but if I can get to be both I wouldn't mind...

I really value your opinion ceo, most people should stay away from bodybuilding and some of it's false principles because most of the young weightlifters dwell on it and keep clusterfucking more and more without getting anywhere but to staleness...

 

[the_alcatraz]

Re: Bodybuilding Routines: Post Your Bodybuilding Training For Help With A New Routin

Alright boys, let's get back to the main purpose of this thread.

Who has some training questions so all the good bros here can work on answering and giving advice?