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endpoint
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Paval Tsatsouline has two different routines (well a few more but two main ones.)
one called "power to the people" which is designed to make you strong with minimal weight gain.
the second is "the bear" which is designed to make you like a bear.
the bear is set up the same way 1 set at 90 for five reps, the second set lower than the first. then after that you lower the weight more and keep on performing 5 reps till your form starts rotting.
HE DOES NOT USE THE BEAR. he has mentioned a few times in conversation(via the internet) that looking like a bear is not his goal.
so there you go.....he doesnt train that way.....so dont let that put you of the non failure thing.
also note westside barbell (powerlifters) are bigger than most body builders (a bit fatter as well......but who cares)
their reptition method doesnt go to failure, their speed sets dont go to failure their maximal efforts are a 100% all out effort, for just 1 REP.
go figure
one called "power to the people" which is designed to make you strong with minimal weight gain.
the second is "the bear" which is designed to make you like a bear.
the bear is set up the same way 1 set at 90 for five reps, the second set lower than the first. then after that you lower the weight more and keep on performing 5 reps till your form starts rotting.
HE DOES NOT USE THE BEAR. he has mentioned a few times in conversation(via the internet) that looking like a bear is not his goal.
so there you go.....he doesnt train that way.....so dont let that put you of the non failure thing.
also note westside barbell (powerlifters) are bigger than most body builders (a bit fatter as well......but who cares)
their reptition method doesnt go to failure, their speed sets dont go to failure their maximal efforts are a 100% all out effort, for just 1 REP.
go figure
More myth´s in bb
Training to failure: http://weightrainer.virtualave.net/training/failure.html
(read it, its not the only article about it, but gives a good picture)
Eating 6-8 times a day, high carb+low fat+too much protein-kinda diets:
REASONS:
-Every meal raises cortisol levels
-Body becomes dependent on carbs, it doesn’t use fat so efficiently anymore
-Being 3-4hours without eating before training accelerates the usage of fats for ATP between the sets when the body is at aerobic state. Blood glucose is almost useless source of energy during the set. Also stress hormone production (adrenalin, noradrenalin) is accelerated(increases power + increases lipolysis)
-There is a clear connection between testosterone production and the amount of fat in the diet. Amounts of 30% fat produce the highest level of testosterone.
-Eating protein every 2-3hours or so isn’t necessary, the body won't use it so efficiently anymore of it
-Eating carbs and protein mainly after exercise and in the morning is a good idea; the body gets used to burning fat as normal “fuel”.
-“bulking up” is not required for optimal growth; the fat that comes along with the high calorie amount can give more inches to chest, but its flab-not muscle. Huge amounts of carbs/proteins are NOT good for growth, actually the process becomes slower.
-there is a scientifical explanation for all this. It feels that people dont believe what the studies show, they believe what it reads in FLEX, which is 99.9999% bullshit.
Training to failure: http://weightrainer.virtualave.net/training/failure.html
(read it, its not the only article about it, but gives a good picture)
Eating 6-8 times a day, high carb+low fat+too much protein-kinda diets:
REASONS:
-Every meal raises cortisol levels
-Body becomes dependent on carbs, it doesn’t use fat so efficiently anymore
-Being 3-4hours without eating before training accelerates the usage of fats for ATP between the sets when the body is at aerobic state. Blood glucose is almost useless source of energy during the set. Also stress hormone production (adrenalin, noradrenalin) is accelerated(increases power + increases lipolysis)
-There is a clear connection between testosterone production and the amount of fat in the diet. Amounts of 30% fat produce the highest level of testosterone.
-Eating protein every 2-3hours or so isn’t necessary, the body won't use it so efficiently anymore of it
-Eating carbs and protein mainly after exercise and in the morning is a good idea; the body gets used to burning fat as normal “fuel”.
-“bulking up” is not required for optimal growth; the fat that comes along with the high calorie amount can give more inches to chest, but its flab-not muscle. Huge amounts of carbs/proteins are NOT good for growth, actually the process becomes slower.
-there is a scientifical explanation for all this. It feels that people dont believe what the studies show, they believe what it reads in FLEX, which is 99.9999% bullshit.
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SSAlexSS
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Re: More myth´s in bb
Actually eating 6 meals a day has been shown to be HEALTHY!!
And it does prevent you from starving (in between meals). So
better anabolic environment!
Also by eating often you speed up your metabolism so you can be lean and still eat a lot, or its just too easy for you to loose weight!!
Nike said:
Actually eating 6 meals a day has been shown to be HEALTHY!!
And it does prevent you from starving (in between meals). So
better anabolic environment!
Also by eating often you speed up your metabolism so you can be lean and still eat a lot, or its just too easy for you to loose weight!!
LeviathanX
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gymrat123 said:
Man, I totally agree with this statement. It is very annoying to have people think you are using these 'drugs' to get big. And that anyone who takes protein/creatine/glutamine/<insert other supplement name> will automatically be as big as you. They don't understand the training intensity and consistency that goes into it.
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SSAlexSS
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Re: More myth´s in bb
Nike, I am curious... Where is the scientific explanation for all of it!
I am not critiquing you, I am really curious!
reply please!
Nike said:
Nike, I am curious... Where is the scientific explanation for all of it!
I am not critiquing you, I am really curious!
reply please!
Sorry..but
I know that sounds strange. Ill try to translate some things from finnish to english from the things ive found, heres a few:
(im sorry but i dont have a dictionary by me right now)
-the ideal situation with carbs is that the carbs eaten are stored as glycogen, which is then used in training(sets in this case). The normal energysource shoulb be fat. Of course the body doesnt work just like that, but it can be guided to that way. The biggest amount of carbs should be consumed right after exercise, when the production of glycogen is the most efficient. Another time is morning, when there has been a long time since the last meal. During another time "the ideal carb" absorbs slowly and keeps the insulin levels stable. The ideal source for these carbs are vegetables.
-The fat of the diet should be consumed on every meal execp right after exercise when fat is not good for glycogen production. Fat makes the lipolysis easier, which is also accelerated by the fats effect of slowing down the absorption of carbs. If protein is consumed before going to sleep some fat should be put along, which decreases the use of protein instead of carbs for energy.
The ideal situation for protein is ,as for carbs right after exercise. Another time, just like carbs, is the morning. Eating protein before bedtime is also useful. But consuming it every second or so hour isnt necessary.
Eating before exercise
A typical "gym-trainingsession" is very different from f.ex a one hour jog when looking at energy-metabolism. In a standard one-hour exercise the time spent for carryibg out the sets is only 6-10minutes and for each muscle only 3minutes. During the hours or so the heart rate is less than 100 30-50% of the time and 80-90% less than 120. The main-energysource in the actual sets an d reps is CP and after this the muscles glycogen. Blood glucose is almost useless as an energy source for musles during those sets. During the rests the body is at an aerobic , when the main energysources are fatty acids and lactic acid. The fatty acids are an ideal source at the aerobic state; when the glucose produces 32ATP molecules with oxygen, a fatty acid produces 129 ATP moilecules with oxygen.
And, something about post exercise-drinks:
The ideal thing is to consume quick digesting protein-only drink after exercise so that the bloodstream gets as much amimoacid as possible(carbs slow down the absorption of the drink and it wont be absorbed in so alrge amounts), 30mins later a carb drink and 30misn later food or a carb/protein drink(fruits are good also, because of fructose and kalium)
Good results can be achieved with good timing without "overloading" the body and making it only worse.
I, myself have tried this kinda eating. But for practical reasons(i eat in school, where they have the ususal carb-rich meals) and im trying to raise my fat% a bit, because it might be too low, i do it with my own style of eating: every meal has quite a lot of carbs, especially in the mornoin and after exercise, almost no carbs before bedtime.
Ill post more if you like....
I know that sounds strange. Ill try to translate some things from finnish to english from the things ive found, heres a few:
(im sorry but i dont have a dictionary by me right now)
-the ideal situation with carbs is that the carbs eaten are stored as glycogen, which is then used in training(sets in this case). The normal energysource shoulb be fat. Of course the body doesnt work just like that, but it can be guided to that way. The biggest amount of carbs should be consumed right after exercise, when the production of glycogen is the most efficient. Another time is morning, when there has been a long time since the last meal. During another time "the ideal carb" absorbs slowly and keeps the insulin levels stable. The ideal source for these carbs are vegetables.
-The fat of the diet should be consumed on every meal execp right after exercise when fat is not good for glycogen production. Fat makes the lipolysis easier, which is also accelerated by the fats effect of slowing down the absorption of carbs. If protein is consumed before going to sleep some fat should be put along, which decreases the use of protein instead of carbs for energy.
The ideal situation for protein is ,as for carbs right after exercise. Another time, just like carbs, is the morning. Eating protein before bedtime is also useful. But consuming it every second or so hour isnt necessary.
Eating before exercise
A typical "gym-trainingsession" is very different from f.ex a one hour jog when looking at energy-metabolism. In a standard one-hour exercise the time spent for carryibg out the sets is only 6-10minutes and for each muscle only 3minutes. During the hours or so the heart rate is less than 100 30-50% of the time and 80-90% less than 120. The main-energysource in the actual sets an d reps is CP and after this the muscles glycogen. Blood glucose is almost useless as an energy source for musles during those sets. During the rests the body is at an aerobic , when the main energysources are fatty acids and lactic acid. The fatty acids are an ideal source at the aerobic state; when the glucose produces 32ATP molecules with oxygen, a fatty acid produces 129 ATP moilecules with oxygen.
And, something about post exercise-drinks:
The ideal thing is to consume quick digesting protein-only drink after exercise so that the bloodstream gets as much amimoacid as possible(carbs slow down the absorption of the drink and it wont be absorbed in so alrge amounts), 30mins later a carb drink and 30misn later food or a carb/protein drink(fruits are good also, because of fructose and kalium)
Good results can be achieved with good timing without "overloading" the body and making it only worse.
I, myself have tried this kinda eating. But for practical reasons(i eat in school, where they have the ususal carb-rich meals) and im trying to raise my fat% a bit, because it might be too low, i do it with my own style of eating: every meal has quite a lot of carbs, especially in the mornoin and after exercise, almost no carbs before bedtime.
Ill post more if you like....
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HighIntensity
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