Better than a strip club, but is it legal?

[Ceebs]

My boytoy and I went to a "lingerie modeling" establishment last night, where we were encouraged to get "as comfortable as possible" while a young lady took off her clothes and danced literally inches away from us. (AWESOME little body on her, too. ) This translated to he and I taking turns going down on one another seated in a large black leather chair, which the girl seemed to expect and even encourage.

My question is, is this legal, as long as there is no touching involved on her part? It seems too good to be true...

 

[gsxr1000]

Kronk.................you location brings a tear to my eye............




OHHH SAAAAAAMMMM!!!!!!

 

[manny78]

hummm here it is legal. It's basically what people in swingers' clubs do. BUT they must keep the alcohol in a different room. SO thats why there's usually a lounge (which looks like any other club out there) and then behind a curtain the "real deal".....

 

[Puddles]

They're popular here, you don't have to drive more than a few miles along any of the major roads to find one. I walked into one a few years ago because I was actually looking to buy something to wear...didn't know what the place really was. LOL

 

[lilperronis]

ceebs when are going to post another pic?

 

[Matt Hardcore]

Your boytoy is a lucky man. What a bastard!


I swear you have to be a bastard to get a hot girl in this country!

 

[Bigsatan13]

My boytoy and I went to a "lingerie modeling" establishment last night, where we were encouraged to get "as comfortable as possible" while a young lady took off her clothes and danced literally inches away from us. (AWESOME little body on her, too. ) This translated to he and I taking turns going down on one another seated in a large black leather chair, which the girl seemed to expect and even encourage.

My question is, is this legal, as long as there is no touching involved on her part? It seems too good to be true...

1-who cares if it's legal.
2-why haven't I heard of this!
3- how would I find an establishment in my area?
4- do you pay for this?
5- does the "model" participate?

 

[fl8meplz]

To answer a couple of questions, yes the girls will participate if tipped well and they know you are not a cop.

Man, one of these shops was the scene of one of the top ten hottest things that I have ever experienced. To put this in perspective you first have to know that my wife an I are very open and have a zero jelousy factor when it comes to each other being with other people. So, please don't freak when you read this and think i am cheating.

Shortly after we were married in 1990, her sister had come over to our house to show off her new boob job. She looked really good at the time - about a 19" waist and the new 32 D's put her over the top. She and my wife were having some wine when I came home and she took her top off on the sofa and let me really check 'em out. Okay, so they were pretty tipsy and my wife and here were talking about her job and that she was starting back. Talking with them I found out that her sister worked at one of these lingere modeling places and they were really cracking up and goofing about some of the weirder dudes who would come in.

That said, I only waited a week to go to the shop that she worked at. It was too cool when I walked in and there she was with about three or four other fine ass chicks dressed in different lingerie watching tv. Maybe three chicks and my sister in-law sttod up and smiled and one walked up to me and asked if I wanted a session and told me the price. Man, I was buzzing with anticipation and asked if I could pick any girl or if I had to take her. She said I could have my pick so I , of course, ponted out my sister in-law who had not said a thing, but was smilling and had whispered to on of the other girls I guess that I was her brother in-law cuase she let out a little laugh and smilled bigger. Man, I was about to bust one right there when she took my hand and let me back to a room and asked if here sister put me up to it. She asked if I knew the 'drill' and then winked or somethin and told me she'd be back and if i wanted to i could get comfortable as i liked. So, when she left I stripped!!

When she came back she said something like "oh, shit" when she saw me naked and was having a hard time composing herslef kinda laughing and saying she didn't know if she could do this with a straight face. She turned on the tape deck and started some very fine slow dancing for me. She took her bra off and came over to me while i was playin' with 'it'. She asked if I was gonna tip her and I gave her about $50.00 bucks and she took off her thong and fuckin' grabbed my balls right there. Then she pulled out some lotion and jerked me off right there while I played with her ass and tits, It was awsome!! For other reasons my wife and her are not as close as they used to be, but she has come over a couple of times at Christmas and she makes little inside jokes about the heat and shit like "is this as comfortable as you like it in here". It's a hoot.

 

[Puddles]

Excellent story!

 

[LivinLarger]

My boytoy and I went to a "lingerie modeling" establishment last night

Is this what they are all called, and how do I find one.......ASAP
I have never heard of such a magical place, tell me more.

 

[Ceebs]

I swear you have to be a bastard to get a hot girl in this country!

Or hung like a can of Pringles. If I named off everything I love about that guy, we'd be here all night...

kronk: ANYTIME. Are you and kette still planning a trip out west? My coast would love to have you guys.

lilperronis: All of the pictures I have scanned are in my gallery.

Bigsatan13: I'd seen commercials for this particular place late at night on television, but I assumed it was just a strip show - no "getting comfortable" involved. One of those rare times it was good to be wrong. You do pay, the girls (allegedly) work solely off tips, which start between $20-40 depending on the girl and level of her participation. Our girl mostly danced, but she did blow on my nipples towards the end while I was getting head, and I got the impression that she might have joined in a) for a bigger tip, and b) if I'd given her an indication to do so. And did I mention she had an amazing body and a very pretty pussy?

fl8meplz: Nice name. AWESOME story.

LivinLarger: Try the adult services or adult clubs section of your local yellow pages, or online city directory. "Live models" or "lingerie modeling" are keywords you should look for. I know the place we went to has a website, but I'll be damned if I can find it now... if anyone else has suggestions, feel free to chime in.

Closing thoughts, I'm still kind of on cloud nine from the whole experience. I will never forget the look in our dancer's eyes, nor how much sucking off my boyfriend with someone else watching turned me on, or how he was so worked up afterwards, his left leg kept spasming on the drive home. Very very cool. I can't wait to go back, and I would recommend it to any open-minded couple.

 

[fl8meplz]

Thank you Ceebs!! I don't get much of a chance to share that time with others, only select friends, and hate keeping my experiences bottled up. I have had a very interesting life and I owe most of the fun to my babe of a wife. I'll post a pic or two for all sometime soon.

Ceebs, you have a wonderful smile and beautiful eyes and may you have a Merry Christmas!!

 

[Lestat]

Risque Lingerie

 

[manny78]

Or hung like a can of Pringles. If I named off everything I love about that guy, we'd be here all night...

kronk: ANYTIME. Are you and kette still planning a trip out west? My coast would love to have you guys.

lilperronis: All of the pictures I have scanned are in my gallery.

Bigsatan13: I'd seen commercials for this particular place late at night on television, but I assumed it was just a strip show - no "getting comfortable" involved. One of those rare times it was good to be wrong. You do pay, the girls (allegedly) work solely off tips, which start between $20-40 depending on the girl and level of her participation. Our girl mostly danced, but she did blow on my nipples towards the end while I was getting head, and I got the impression that she might have joined in a) for a bigger tip, and b) if I'd given her an indication to do so. And did I mention she had an amazing body and a very pretty pussy?

fl8meplz: Nice name. AWESOME story.

LivinLarger: Try the adult services or adult clubs section of your local yellow pages, or online city directory. "Live models" or "lingerie modeling" are keywords you should look for. I know the place we went to has a website, but I'll be damned if I can find it now... if anyone else has suggestions, feel free to chime in.

Closing thoughts, I'm still kind of on cloud nine from the whole experience. I will never forget the look in our dancer's eyes, nor how much sucking off my boyfriend with someone else watching turned me on, or how he was so worked up afterwards, his left leg kept spasming on the drive home. Very very cool. I can't wait to go back, and I would recommend it to any open-minded couple.

Ok so it's basically an escort/prositute club. Illegal but they're some kind of tolerance. Yeah there's one in my area (Le Grand Prix). You can get everything. Run by an ex-cop (so go figure why he hasn't been busted yet). From what I've heard: blowjobs 20$, fuck her cunt for 50-70$ and her butthole for around 100$. I guess like all those strippers-with-no-moral you can put some extra money on the table and bang her with no rubber. Guys here are all getting nuts about this place. God knows how many of them have STDs.......

 

[Ceebs]

Risque Lingerie

Yup, that was the place. You ever been?

 

[Lestat]

Yup, that was the place. You ever been?

No, but if I had a girlfriend that wanted to I'd be there in a hot second.

Typically what I understand is that a guy goes there, pays like 40 bucks to the house, and then gets a girl to dance for three songs.

No tip = all underwear on
Decent tip (40 bucks) = nude
Good tip (60+) = girl tells you to get comfortable (ie take your cock out)
Even better tip (80+) = Girl will spread her lips for you, get pretty dirty
Best tip (100+) = You may get to touch her, but good luck getting her to touch you.

Its a way for a guy to get off, see a naked girl, etc.. nearly legalized prostitution but as I understand it most of the girls wont put out... its basically an R rated incall escort service I guess... you want more you go to a massage parlor or just call an escort.

 

[Lestat]

Ok so it's basically an escort/prositute club. Illegal but they're some kind of tolerance. Yeah there's one in my area (Le Grand Prix). You can get everything. Run by an ex-cop (so go figure why he hasn't been busted yet). From what I've heard: blowjobs 20$, fuck her cunt for 50-70$ and her butthole for around 100$. I guess like all those strippers-with-no-moral you can put some extra money on the table and bang her with no rubber. Guys here are all getting nuts about this place. God knows how many of them have STDs.......

I don't think those prices hold true for San Diego.. I actually don't think the nude modeling clubes here will sex full sex.

 

[Gladiola]

I would think it is illegal.

I've been to a few different BDSM clubs on the East Coast & house rules are no fucking & no sucking, no inserting everything. People are naked & "playing" (pain stuff, flogging, waxing, clothespins, electricity, etc.) but public sex acts are illegal.

If people have private parties, where you must be a member of a certain club to attend, than it is not a "public" establishment, & therefore would be fine for a couple to fuck & suck, but as a public establishment, I'm almost certain that's illegal.

 

[Ceebs]

I've been to a few different BDSM clubs on the East Coast & house rules are no fucking & no sucking, no inserting everything. People are naked & "playing" (pain stuff, flogging, waxing, clothespins, electricity, etc.) but public sex acts are illegal.

I'd heard that about BDSM clubs, Gladiola, which is why I asked. It seems like it would be far too easy for cops to bust these girls, though, if that were the case... just go in, pretending to be a horny couple, offer a big tip, and slap the cuffs on when she started to participate.

 

[chiba102]

There seems to be a "Jack Shack" every ten feet in Portland....I think they are legal there.

 

[MiamiStyle245]

I grew up in Miami...these places are all over the place. You just have to negotiate with the women as far as what you want and how much it is going to cost. Usually in Mia it will cost you around $100 to get head, $150 to rip. 90% of the women don't speak english and are beautiful south american immigrants. It is lovely. There is a place that rubs you down with hot oils, jerks you off/gives you head/whatever you pay for, then gives you a sponge bath in a steam shower. It is lovely and prices are negotiable. I now live in Tampa and the same type of shit goes on over here. I have yet to find the hot oils/steam treatment over here. You have to realize that everything is negotiable and these girls are whores and should be treated accordingly or else you are likely to get taken advantange of. The type of people that these girls deal with is scumbags and when they see a good looking, young guy come in they will negotiate. They have to pay the house a certain amount, but they keep everything above that amount. In the Pink Pony(strip club) up here, some strippers will have sex in the back room. It is very lax and the bouncers don't care. Trick is finding a hot one for cheap. Btw, in Miami, they will tell you to go to the back and "get comortable". I think that if you get naked, it indicates to them that you are not the police...at least that is what I heard and I have no problem doing it.

 

[smokinghawk]

To put this in perspective you first have to know that my wife an I are very open and have a zero jelousy factor when it comes to each other being with other people.

Congratulations. My wife and I share the same enthusiastic confidence in our marriage.

 

[Pamela]

Ceebs,

I really enjoyed your experience..

I would love to do something like that.

The area that I live in now, the people here would
have a heart attack. They don't even have strip clubs here.
"Backwards"

I sure miss So. Ca.

 

[Ceebs]

Come back to southern California then and we'll go! (Not that I need a reason to go back there...)

I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed our experience. I always enjoy your posts and insights. I also think it's funny that this thread's had over 1000 views, versus the 150 or so that my other thread on romance got, which I started at relatively the same time. Just goes to show what the silent lurkers visit this board for, I guess.

 

[FLASHMAN1]

Financial transactions for sexual services is 100% illegal in every state except one state in Nevada.

Here's where you're wrong and they find the legal loophole... My former business partner owns one of these in Providence... If the girl gets involved physically in any way other than your hands on her ass, (like a strip club), then it's illegal. Other than that, it's considered adult entertainment and covered by a conventional adult entertainment license.

So yes it's definately illegal.

not unless the girl gets involved sexually with you

Not to mention very illegal in terms of the IRS as well.

not here either, same as strippers

They probably haven't been busted cuz cops are tied up busting people for illegally copying CD's, and prostitution has gone to the back of the line in terms of importance. So they're taking advantage of it.

As stated earlier, that's not it... I'm sure laws in different states differ, but what they're describing is not technically prostitution. As long as there's no sexual contact and you have the AE license, it's legal and the cops can't do shit.

I'd never pay someone to have sex with me. It sounds so pathetic and desperate.

I never would either, I certianly agree with you there... but Ceebs isn't talking about the other girl getting involved, she's talking about her putting on a show, while her and her old man get it on... That's not prostitution, it's no different than a woman hiring an outcall stripper for her hubby's b-day and blowing him while he watches her strip. The "making yourself as comfortable as you like" comment is to tell the guy that it's ok to flog the dolphin. When I used to be there for security, the girls referred to it as whether the guy was "with the program" or not...

 

[Puddles]

Doing my best immitation of Donkey from Shrek:

*jumping up and down*


~~~Ooooohhhh....pick me, pick me, PICK ME!!!~~~

 

[Friscochick]

Damn!!! i live in SF and ive never heard of a NON strip club that you can get naked with a dancer and your partner!!! ROUGHT ON CEEBS!!!


thanks for the idea!

 

[Lestat]

Ceebs very cool!

Id love to go to a place like- although Id have to find a person to go with first! LOL!

I'll show ya where the one in San Diego is

 

[Pamela]

Come back to southern California then and we'll go! (Not that I need a reason to go back there...)

I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed our experience. I always enjoy your posts and insights. I also think it's funny that this thread's had over 1000 views, versus the 150 or so that my other thread on romance got, which I started at relatively the same time. Just goes to show what the silent lurkers visit this board for, I guess.

One day I may just do that..
And I will call you for sure..

 

[gotmilk]

Ceebs very cool!

Id love to go to a place like- although Id have to find a person to go with first! LOL!

There was one in Concord, New Hampshire but it was shut down recently. The people who ran it were the same two who ran swingers parties out of a rented house in NH too.

There used to be one in Brockton too but I haven't been around there in like 5 years.......

You know damn well there has to be one in Southie...somewhere

 

[Ceebs]

I know the place we went to has a website, but I'll be damned if I can find it now...

Better late than never: http://www.risquemodels.com/

 

[fl8meplz]

Someone seems to have hacked it.

 

[drgoodbody]

The whole idea behind the lingerie bit is that you're supposedly paying for the lingerie modeling, not the sex. At least that's what the business will claim to the authorities.

Yeah, and when you're fucking a prostitute/escort you're paying for her time and not the sex...

sure....

DrG

 

[Ceebs]

Yeah, and when you're fucking a prostitute/escort you're paying for her time and not the sex...

Apples to oranges. This was a strictly no-touch service, and I was probably being presumptuous when I assumed she'd have gotten down and dirty for more money. Heat of the moment fantasy, like "wow, that stripper really liked me for me!"

No, we're paying for the advice they give us about our spouses...consider them psychiatrists.

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free on Between the Sheets?

 

[gotmilk]

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free on Between the Sheets?

WHAT???

 

[Ceebs]

WHAT???

Why go a whore for advice when there are so many great minds right here?

 

[gotmilk]

Why go a whore for advice when there are so many great minds right here?

ohhhh...my udder started to become erect when you mentioned milk and cow. I almost mounted the dining room table...

 

[Xiodus]

Mrs Puddles Where on Dale Mabry can i find one heh? i NEED NAMES!