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Battling Losing Natural Testosterone output while on Paxil

enigma79

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Guys,
Maybe not the best part of the forum to put this in (*SORRY*)...

I took Paxil for a few years and felt great. I realized my natural testosterone production became very low after a couple years of use. This is very common with SSRI antidepressants. I have been off of it for a few months now and don't seem to be up to speed yet... and actually want to go back on it. What is the best way to help keep good testosterone levels while on an SSRI antidepressant?

I am actually cycling TEST E (first cycle) & Deca right now.... but this question is for future knowledge for myself.

THANKS! =]
 
proviron might help....read the drug profile.
 
enigma79 said:
Guys,
Maybe not the best part of the forum to put this in (*SORRY*)...

I took Paxil for a few years and felt great. I realized my natural testosterone production became very low after a couple years of use. This is very common with SSRI antidepressants. I have been off of it for a few months now and don't seem to be up to speed yet... and actually want to go back on it. What is the best way to help keep good testosterone levels while on an SSRI antidepressant?

I am actually cycling TEST E (first cycle) & Deca right now.... but this question is for future knowledge for myself.

THANKS! =]
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I heard that that stuff is not good for you
 
enigma79 said:
Guys,
Maybe not the best part of the forum to put this in (*SORRY*)...

I took Paxil for a few years and felt great. I realized my natural testosterone production became very low after a couple years of use. This is very common with SSRI antidepressants. I have been off of it for a few months now and don't seem to be up to speed yet... and actually want to go back on it. What is the best way to help keep good testosterone levels while on an SSRI antidepressant?

I am actually cycling TEST E (first cycle) & Deca right now.... but this question is for future knowledge for myself.

THANKS! =]
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dunno....try taking some tribulus terrestris while taking the paxil...i dunno how much the paxil actually lowers your natty test so trib terr might not bring levels back to norm but i have to believe it would help.....(test/deca, good choice my friend!)...good luck
 
btw, check with your doc to make sure its ok to take those simultaniously, im sure it is,. just better safe thyen sorry....plus he might have a professional asnwer to your question
 
enigma79 said:
Guys,
Maybe not the best part of the forum to put this in (*SORRY*)...

I took Paxil for a few years and felt great. I realized my natural testosterone production became very low after a couple years of use. This is very common with SSRI antidepressants. I have been off of it for a few months now and don't seem to be up to speed yet... and actually want to go back on it. What is the best way to help keep good testosterone levels while on an SSRI antidepressant?

I am actually cycling TEST E (first cycle) & Deca right now.... but this question is for future knowledge for myself.

THANKS! =]
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on a side note did paxil help you with things like being more social?
 
NYBodyguard said:
on a side note did paxil help you with things like being more social?
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i took paxil years ago, for like 6 months...and it helped with both social anxiety and depression....but i just switched to something else bc i couldnt bust a nut to save my life while on it...i say f*ck trying to to beat it, just switch drugs.....wellbutrin works well...and your boys can function on it a little better
 
Been reading about these drugs lately, anyone ever use Lexapro? People seem to like this AntiD.

Seems a very large number of people taking AntiD's produce sexual side effects like not being able to nut.
 
I've been on paxil for seven years and as far as I'm concerned, it saved my life. I use it to treat both major clinical depression and an anxiety disorder, both of which are genetic in my family.

The trick to paxil, and probably all anti-d's, is to use the absolutely smallest dose possible to get the job done. I started at 30mg ED and took forever to get off, but it didn't matter at the time because I had bigger problems to worry about (suicidal ideation).

Once I got better, after lots of therapy and meds, I was able to start cutting down to the point where today, 10mg ED does the trick with virtually no sides. I tried weaning myself off slowly last year over the course of 4 months, and began having problems again, so it looks like I'm gonna be on it for the rest of my life. Not so bad, considering the alternatives.

I do, however, believe that anti-d's should ONLY be used for physiologically based forms of depression, not situational. If you're bummed because your gf dumped you and is now getting pounded by your best friend, that is not a reason to jump on the meds bandwagon. Take a deep breath, talk to a professional, have a beer or a bong, get through it day-by-day, but don't rely on drugs to do all your work for you. Paxil will not stop you from feeling sadness over the loss of a loved one or general disappointments in life. Docs should stop handing it out like candy.
 
Ever since I started taking Paxil in the Fall of 2002... I've never been able to get my natural Test levels to equalize between cycles. Before that, a short regimen of ancilliaries would bounce me back no prob. I've pretty much been forced to run low-dose HRT between cycles now.

I wouldn't be here without Paxil though... anxiety would have taken my life in short order had I not started on it when I did.
 
kbrkbr said:
Dostinex does not raise testosterone levels.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9539303&query_hl=1



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14764772&query_hl=1


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15181056&query_hl=2


Here is what Paxil and other SSRI's do to Prolactin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9443523&query_hl=3

This is mainly due to direct stimulation of the 5HT2 subtype of the serotonin receptor. Stimulation of this receptor will cause an increase in ACTH, Cortisol, Prolactin and acts as a governor on dopamine release in certain parts of the brain. Lowering prolactin is well known to increase LH receptor sensitivity.


This one is interesting because it shows a direct decrease in the direct metabolite of dopamine HVA which is a marker for decreased dopamine levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8274586&query_hl=2


This is also why wellbutrin an NDRI is so popular to add to SSRI treatment.

It would be interesting to see what a combo like dostinex and proviron would do.
 
bdog527 said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9539303&query_hl=1



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14764772&query_hl=1


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15181056&query_hl=2


Here is what Paxil and other SSRI's do to Prolactin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9443523&query_hl=3

This is mainly due to direct stimulation of the 5HT2 subtype of the serotonin receptor. Stimulation of this receptor will cause an increase in ACTH, Cortisol, Prolactin and acts as a governor on dopamine release in certain parts of the brain. Lowering prolactin is well known to increase LH receptor sensitivity.


This one is interesting because it shows a direct decrease in the direct metabolite of dopamine HVA which is a marker for decreased dopamine levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8274586&query_hl=2


This is also why wellbutrin an NDRI is so popular to add to SSRI treatment.

It would be interesting to see what a combo like dostinex and proviron would do.
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I stand corrected. Those articles are great. Thanks very much for the insight. :)
 
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