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mrplunkey
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I bought a new one around four weeks ago.
mrplunkey
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No, I have three kids under five years old -- not two.
I intentionally bought a two seater!
(all kidding aside, I can spend 35 mins - 2.5 hours/day in my car). This isn't a kids car, but rather a car for me to at least be comfortable on those drives. We have cattle cars for the kids+wife.
mrplunkey
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No idea. I'm not really much of a car guy.
Lol I didnt say anything yet!
PICK3
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I'm jelly as fug!
mrplunkey
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digimon7068
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i thought pontiac went outta business
Fuck it just got serious
digimon7068
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i'm never serious about anything...'cept my work and my family
i thought pontiac went outta business
lolol
you put work before family...RED FLAG!
digimon7068
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yeah...that's kinda what happened to me when my uncle croaked...and i've been fighting like hell to flip that back ever since...ain't gonna happen today, though...and tomorrow ain't lookin' so good either
mrplunkey
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The ugly reality is that for men (or whoever the principal breadwinner is), work does need to come before family.
Real talk.
To quote the great philosopher Chris Rock:
Maybe if you have a job that requires 80+ hours weekly and pays $400k. Completely unnecessary though and one could have work/family balance on a fraction of that.
You only get one shot in life with family.
mrplunkey
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I'm not advocating abandoning the family, but I'm not bought-in on the idea of sacrificing financial success in the name of work/life balance.
And yeah, I do miss a few T-ball practices and soccer games (but in all fairness, I make the majority of them). If that means my kid has some hang-ups, they can work on them with a shrink with health insurance, good college degrees, zero debt and a paid-off house.
If you think your kids aren't smart enough to realize that daddy is missing their tball game cuz you're working so you can buy another car, or rocket or wtfever else you're mistaken.
Kids aren't dumb, they know when things aren't tight and daddy has got to work, and they also know when daddy is just working for more "stuff".
Indeed. My dad did this. As kids we don't have any hangups about it. I know i appreciate everything he was able to provide for us.
Weird. I never felt abandoned. Not once. I knew my dad loved me and i was just used to him always working and traveling or whatever. I enjoyed the spoils he was able to provide. I didnt care if he missed a softball game. It really didnt affect me.
digimon7068
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the final corporate tax deadline is tomorrow and since that is a sunday, it pushes to monday...i missed flag football practice on thursday and wrestling practice last night (wife had to take mini-me, instead)...i'm bummed...but, it is what it is...as soon as i can get this fucking mess straightened out, i'll grab that part of my life back.
mrplunkey
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Cars and rockets aren't material expenses.
I don't want my kids to have stuff, I want them to have wealth. There's a difference.
they're not?
I thought they were both expenses and materialistic.
Don't get me wrong I want all the same shit for my son, but I won't sacrifice time with him to give him something that will never provide true happiness. They're only young once and I don't care how rich you are or how much you work to build your bankroll you can't buy that time back.
Wealth isn't defined in terms of your bank statement but in the quality of relationships you have.
digimon7068
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shouldn't you be finishing up those final corporate tax deadlines that are due tomorrow instead of posting on EF you sonofabitch.
mrplunkey
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mrplunkey
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I was using the accounting definition of "material".
Materiality (auditing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That looks great on a Hallmark card, but I'm not bought into that idea.
digimon7068
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yup...ran into a couple numbers issues that need to gestate a bit before i decide what to do with them, so i thought i'd pop in and get depressed for working on a beautiful fall saturday...mission accomplished
yup...ran into a couple numbers issues that need to gestate a bit before i decide what to do with them, so i thought i'd pop in and get depressed for working on a beautiful fall saturday...mission accomplished
well wtf where you when plunkey started trying to act like he knew about accounting?
what am I paying you for?
digimon7068
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you haven't paid me shit...i still check my p.o. box everyday...not even any energy tabs (or whatever the fuck those things are)
+1
The stereotype of the rich white kid whose fucked up in the head because they didnt get enough attention from daddy is for a reason. They usually resort to other means of getting attention, usually something bad
And its rather callous to casually pawn your kid off to the shrink later on in life. Shit like that comes home to roost sooner or later.
you haven't paid me shit...i still check my p.o. box everyday...not even any energy tabs (or whatever the fuck those things are)
bro, we're all about to drown over here.
digimon7068
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*were
there you go...earn that paycheck!
digimon7068
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1) that's a very recent phenomena
2) you have more boats than i have cars
3) waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
digimon7068
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i don't get paid for my engrish...good thing you don't either tee hee
digimon7068
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did i seem worried about you
yeah a lil bit.
I used to be a lesbian.
mrplunkey
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For every one of those fucked-up rich white kids, hundreds of non-fucked up ones go on to lead highly successful lives.
The reason the stereotype is so well-advertised is because:
1) To the older generation, it's almost inconceivable that someone would blow a lead on life like that. It's the equivalent of starting every inning with a man on third and still not being able to score.
2) People love talking about train wrecks.
Maybe so but the fact you would so flippantly pass your kids off to shrinks to just deal with it later is inconceivable to many more.
People are surprised with those people because we are prone to thinking that wealth brings happiness. We look at the outside and assume that they are happy because we are constantly told that is what will make us happy. There is more to life than that, and usually in those circumstances of the fucked up rich kids; something else was missing.
I guess Im the opposite in that I see a rich family and think what had to be sacrificed for the trappings of wealth, and its always the quality family time sacrificed. I dont begrudge folks who have a lot of money but there always seems a price to pay and I just dont see its worth it long term. You only get one shot with family, cant hit a reset button.
Give me a 1500 SF house, two hondas, a motorcycle, a hound dog, a grill, and a low maintenance wife and Im a happy man.
I agree with you and Mitch. I was just stating what I thought in the most diplomatic and least judgmental way possible. I don't think it's worth it. No one wishes they worked more on their death bed.
mrplunkey
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The shrink comment was a reference to a comedian who had a routine about rich kids with the world at their feet sitting in a psychiatrist's office smoking cigarettes (he made the gesture in his act) and bitching about their should-be-perfect lives.
I'll try to dig up a reference.
mrplunkey
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1) I do realize there are people who feel differently than I do. I don't fault them one bit. It all comes down to the choices you make.
2) Sacrificing time is not the same as abandoning the family. But it does mean sacrifices. I'm at two physician meetings over the next two weekends, which means I'll have two days off over the next three weeks.
3) Agree on the low-maintenance wife. That is a must-have that I've been lucky on (even my first wife of 17 years was low maintenance).
Let me ask you something: What about people on the other end of the spectrum? What if I had two kids, and decided that all our family needed was love and time together? Let's say I cobbled together $8,500/year and we lived in virtual squalor. But the kids would see me 15+ hours a day and I'd do zero nights per week of travel. Now they'd have no health care, no college funds, no help with material items -- but we'd all be close knit.
Would those guys be doing something even more noble than both you and I?
Spoken like a true poor white boy
People at any end of any spectrum are probably not in a good position.
Balance.
But have you noticed that a lot of successful people came from modest childhoods? Makes you think
mrplunkey
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Well no one is going to argue for the absolute extreme. But just like there's "wealthy enough", there's also "adjusted enough". If missing me one or two days a week (in relative terms) means every kid graduates with a terminal degree completely debt-free, I'll give up those one or two days.
Of course a lot would come from there -- that's where the numbers are. Let's just do a what-if scenario:
Let's say a 1%er's kid has a 50% chance of success (which I'd say is too low... I'd put it at more like 60%).
So where would the other 50% come from that maintains the 1%? Well, that 50% of 1% would come from the other 99%. So that's 0.5% of of the 99% -- or roughly one in 200. I don't like those odds. I'll miss a few Saturday soccer and t-ball games to up my odds from 1 in 200 to 1 in 2. They can hate me for that, but at least they can hate me from a nice view.
digimon7068
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pics or it never happened...
digimon7068
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i've had my ass handed to me a couple/few times...
Well I havent been able to marry a doctor.
I got a good career, make my own schedule, house, great wife, never divorced, no kids from previous women. So Im happy and have time for my family.
Cliff notes, please
Not married to a doctor lol
digimon7068
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i had one last night...damn...
mrplunkey
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Do you and Mr. SD plan on having kids?
If we dont run out of time. We aint getting any younger lol
Weve been over all our options to make sure the kid wouldnt be short changed.
Sorry for generalizing, i really dont think everyone with lots of money is going to have fucked up kids.
this tren makes me ornery here damnit
mrplunkey
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I may be mistaken, but weren't you already well-established financially before your fairly recent child?
If so, I'm curious. Did you feel any angst or urge about your finances when you found-out the latest kid was coming? The reason I ask is very specific: I see fathers-to-be stress-out over finances all the time. What always surprises me is to see a well-off father stress just as much (sometimes more) than a man who is less well-off. Did that wave of stress hit you, even briefly?
mrplunkey
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Good luck! The world could use a few SD Jr's IMO. And plan all you like, but to paraphrase Mike Tyson: Everybody's got a plan until I punch them in the face. Kids shake everything up.
I didn't think you were generalizing at all. It still shocks me when I see a kid completely blow it. For example, I can understand a kid from a very wealthy family wanting to pursue something less material (i.e. a priest, teacher or Peace Core worker). The ones I can't understand are the ones who simply do nothing or worse, do criminal and/or sociopathic acts.
TableFun
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Don't call me by my name!!!!!!! Fuck!
My growing up was like Smurf's. My dad traveled and worked long hours, at times, but I never felt less than because of it. He put in quality time with us. He came to every game he possibly could and I always knew he was my biggest fan.
As a parent, I carry both mom and dad responsibilities and stress about $$ all the time. I make a pretty good living by today's standards for a single mom but it's a heavy burden to carry. I've never missed a game of my son's but if I thought missing a game here and there would significantly benefit us financially, as a family, I'd probably do it.
That being said, I strongly believe that we should not forgo that quality teaching/ bonding time with our kids for a difference between 1.5 and 1.51 million, for example. Some of the most messed up kids I work with in child psych are from the wealthy homes. They have everything they could possibly want and yet the only thing they really want is a parent who puts the time in. It's sad when it takes a slashed wrist or a pseudo overdose or suicide attempt to get mom and dad's attention and then it's off to the couch to fix the kid, when the kid is a product of their environment. Society for kids and teens is really tough these days. They may graduate debt free but you have to get them there first and give them that solid foundation of who they are and that only comes from time invested and a strong relationship with your children.
/soap box and all, of course, imho
As a parent, I carry both mom and dad responsibilities and stress about $$ all the time. I make a pretty good living by today's standards for a single mom but it's a heavy burden to carry. I've never missed a game of my son's but if I thought missing a game here and there would significantly benefit us financially, as a family, I'd probably do it.
That being said, I strongly believe that we should not forgo that quality teaching/ bonding time with our kids for a difference between 1.5 and 1.51 million, for example. Some of the most messed up kids I work with in child psych are from the wealthy homes. They have everything they could possibly want and yet the only thing they really want is a parent who puts the time in. It's sad when it takes a slashed wrist or a pseudo overdose or suicide attempt to get mom and dad's attention and then it's off to the couch to fix the kid, when the kid is a product of their environment. Society for kids and teens is really tough these days. They may graduate debt free but you have to get them there first and give them that solid foundation of who they are and that only comes from time invested and a strong relationship with your children.
/soap box and all, of course, imho
This is my first time on a computer in a couple days....I just realized I kicked ASS in the bookie forum!
Nice!!
Sorry hoss!
Nice!!
Sorry hoss!
No i wasnt well established...my dad is a multi millionaire and a great humble dad...i had to work for everything i got...i started working on the oil rigs for him at the age of 16....then my bro and i started a company together.
Honestly, i stress about money constantly man...going through a divorce, new kid, settlement payment to the ex, plus the stress of running a company...my stress level is through the roof everyday....my lifestyle is amazing...i get to leave work whenever i want, get to be home and travel all the time..but the money right now is tight due to paying the ex off...next year it will all be done, minus the child support...it will take a lot of stress off me....plus, my brother is going through a divorce now...2 divorces in a company is tough on any company...
I'm not reading all this Dr. Phil bullshit, but for what it's worth my dad had fuuuggloads of money when I was growing up and I turned out perfectly fine.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to look for a bottle of liquor to wash down a handful of depression pills.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to look for a bottle of liquor to wash down a handful of depression pills.
try getting your butthole licked, I heard that helps too.
Preferably by a chick in her 20's. Those are the best for some reason
they have tongues like that of a cat...
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