This is so great! Please, by all means motivate the heck outta me when I'm being a brat! My cheats are planned the same as you, next saturday is that wedding, then the holiday dinns with the fam.badgergrl said:O.K. I can't take it anymore. I need to cut. I've added a descent amount of muscle over the last four months, so it's time to see what's under this winter coat. I know it's soon, but I feel like if I don't do it know it won't ever happen.
My training has been consistent, but diet has not.
Starting tomorrow, the plan is changing. Here it is:
Training:
Sun: Chest + anterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Mon: Back + Posterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Tues: Off
Wed: Legs (quad concentration) + Abs
Thurs: Arms + Medial delt+ calves+ 20 min. pwo cardio
Fri: Off
Sat: Legs (ham concentration) + abs
Thanks to Bunny for letting me jack some of your training ideas and motivation. I still want to add some size to my legs and shoulders. My arms grow so easily, and I feel like they were getting a little out of proportion, so I'm not concentrating on them so much. All my workouts will start with a ten minute warmup on the treadmill. Everything will be much faster-paced....higher reps, lower weight. I can't fit in morning cardio now, so this will have to work. I may add more later.
Diet:
Monday I'll begin a five-day carb deplete to get me started. Then I'll start carb cycling: High, Low, Low
High days: 150 g Low days: 50g
On the high days I'll shoot for 1800 cals, low days 1500.
Sups:
I just ordered levorex, so I'll give that a try. (I can't handle stimulants)
I'll also be using Glucorell before meals, Ms. power pack multis, Purecee until I run out, and probably some extra calcium.
I'm already planning to cheat next Saturday(birthday), thanksgiving, and christmas. But that's it.
I'll post pics later w/ stats.![]()
Any suggestions are appreciated!
*Bunny* said:This is so great! Please, by all means motivate the heck outta me when I'm being a brat! My cheats are planned the same as you, next saturday is that wedding, then the holiday dinns with the fam.
Sass made a good point to me, to run it through full 2 weeks of the carb rotation with the split to assess energy and make sure I have it lol
I made it two days of not eating anything 'unhealthy' ... you know what that means lolfew more days and I'll be back into the swing of things.
You can DO THIS!!!
HA! You now know what B also stands for with mebadgergrl said:Please do the same for me. I can get real bratty!![]()
What does your carb rotation look like?


*Bunny* said:HA! You now know what B also stands for with me
It's going to be some variation of either:
2 high days
2 mod days
3 low days
OR
2 high days
1 mod day
4 low days
^^ Not in that order, somehow spread out within my split.
I was talking things over with Miss Carb Cycle (Sass), and basically I don't wanna be skimping on overall cals on low days, so those would be replaced with fats to help out there. I have NO CLUE what my cal intake will be, but a usual high carb day has easily been 150-200g. I may only focus on the actual about of complex carbs. Take today for instance, my carb total is 168g, where 87g of those are from complex sources. I prefer to carb UP or place a high carb day prior to a specific heavy day, so I am going to try & fit that in accordingly. My split is for strength gains, maintenance of LMB, and I'm pretty sure fat will be lost, I have 5 days of lifting where I want intensity to be high... there will be a few days where carbs may not be where they need to be, so I will rely of supps like purecee & cardio breeze to help out with energy. Going to give it two weeks to assess energy then go from there. Any advice/tips Im all ears. Carb cycling already makes my head hurt lol. I remember I ate Chicken and broc for 5 meals for an entire week and I sure did cut the heck up, but wow was I mentally NOT myself.
Sorry for the novel ...![]()
I am doing a spike slope of sorts right now. I eat 100g complex carbs on my weight training days and 35g complex carbs on my non-weight training days. This is not counting fruit (eat 2 servings daily) and veggies though, so my overall carbs for the day are always moderate ranging in the 125-165g zone. It is working well for me in terms of progress with seeing more striations and cut on my body. Surprisingly, my strength has increased as well.badgergrl said:I don't really understand why people carb cycle with a gradual slope (ie: high, mod, low, no) Instead of more of a spike slope (ie: high, no). It seems to me that the abrupt switch would be more effective. I dunno.![]()
Anybody understand that aspect of it?
Roonytunes said:I am doing a spike slope of sorts right now. I eat 100g complex carbs on my weight training days and 35g complex carbs on my non-weight training days. This is not counting fruit (eat 2 servings daily) and veggies though, so my overall carbs for the day are always moderate ranging in the 125-165g zone. It is working well for me in terms of progress with seeing more striations and cut on my body. Surprisingly, my strength has increased as well.
I really think carb cycling is very much dependant on finding what works for you. I've done a high-med-low cycle before and didn't do well on it. I was retaining water too much and mentally losing it more than I liked.
badgergrl said:O.K. I can't take it anymore. I need to cut. I've added a descent amount of muscle over the last four months, so it's time to see what's under this winter coat. I know it's soon, but I feel like if I don't do it know it won't ever happen.
My training has been consistent, but diet has not.
Starting tomorrow, the plan is changing. Here it is:
Training:
Sun: Chest + anterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Mon: Back + Posterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Tues: Off
Wed: Legs (quad concentration) + Abs
Thurs: Arms + Medial delt+ calves+ 20 min. pwo cardio
Fri: Off
Sat: Legs (ham concentration) + abs
Thanks to Bunny for letting me jack some of your training ideas and motivation. I still want to add some size to my legs and shoulders. My arms grow so easily, and I feel like they were getting a little out of proportion, so I'm not concentrating on them so much. All my workouts will start with a ten minute warmup on the treadmill. Everything will be much faster-paced....higher reps, lower weight. I can't fit in morning cardio now, so this will have to work. I may add more later.
Diet:
Monday I'll begin a five-day carb deplete to get me started. Then I'll start carb cycling: High, Low, Low
High days: 150 g Low days: 50g
On the high days I'll shoot for 1800 cals, low days 1500.
Sups:
I just ordered levorex, so I'll give that a try. (I can't handle stimulants)
I'll also be using Glucorell before meals, Ms. power pack multis, Purecee until I run out, and probably some extra calcium.
I'm already planning to cheat next Saturday(birthday), thanksgiving, and christmas. But that's it.
I'll post pics later w/ stats.![]()
Any suggestions are appreciated!

That's definitely interesting. I assume eventually I'll be told to drop the fruit...so I'm just enjoying it while I can.badgergrl said:Hey Roony! It is very much an individual thing. I can't do fruit when cutting. My body really reacts to the simple sugars.
Re:bold.. same page with that!badgergrl said:Ramble on girlfriend!![]()
I don't really understand why people carb cycle with a gradual slope (ie: high, mod, low, no) Instead of more of a spike slope (ie: high, no). It seems to me that the abrupt switch would be more effective. I dunno.![]()
Anybody understand that aspect of it?
During comp prep, I did 3 mod days, 2 no days. I think I did OK with that, but I was only taking one class over the summer. I don't think my head could handle that with a full course load right now. I don't worry so much about physical energy, but gettin' all mushy in the head bothers me.
I carb cycled like that for 8 weeks, and I think that's what really brought me results.
*Bunny* said:Re:bold.. same page with that!
I def think it's dependant on the person cycling the carbs. I like the mod days b/c the following days w/o SHOULD be HARD so my body welcomes the carbs., Im not doing it to ramp down of sorts, I prefer a shock factor unless my body says "Hey stop that! Feed me!" So I listen.
I am in that stage where I feel I am benefitting from the high carb or even high cal days prior to a workout. My reasoning behind this...
*Bunny* said:Nice girlNext two days Low carb for me
Chicken Veggies and NUTS![]()
Hang in there. How did wo feel?
florencia said:Hi Badger! so you are carb cycling to cut? projected cals? and tell me how many days? need to learn..One way to be a total Biatch is low carb!
I'd love to copy your depletion...please post it so I an be a copy cat.badgergrl said:Diet:
Monday I'll begin a five-day carb deplete to get me started. Then I'll start carb cycling: High, Low, Low
High days: 150 g Low days: 50g
On the high days I'll shoot for 1800 cals, low days 1500.
Saturday is my first carb-up!!

florencia said:I'd love to copy your depletion...please post it so I an be a copy cat.
How do you calculate the grams? I weigh 123 lbs. have 6 lbs to get rid of...YUCK! That goes to show you what a month off can do to this 40 year old broad!!!![]()
badgergrl said:Got my af stuff today.
Does anybody take levorex? What's the best way to dose it? Can I take it at night?
Roonytunes said:Can you tell any difference in your body? Is it flatter or are you less bloated etc.? Just curious & I can only imagine how much you're looking forward to that carb-up!
Hahahahbadgergrl said:Got my af stuff today.
Does anybody take levorex? What's the best way to dose it? Can I take it at night?

*Bunny* said:Hahahah
You and me both sista! Uncle Ned's wife is in town this weekend so that makes things so much better.
Levorex... I just added this, taking 2 caps AM 2 caps PM (but more like meal 3 or 4, late afternoon). You can take it with 1,3,5 if you want to take 3 x a day though.
It should NOT affect your sleep since it does not have 'stims' notorious for that, BUT I think there have been a few reports.. handful maybe.
HA HA I was laughing at this... I think we all have abs with fat over them... You can just call me 2 PAC o.k.badgergrl said:I can tell that I've dumped a lot of water, so yes, I'm less bloated. I do look flatter, and my muscles aren't as full. I can see my abs again...but there's definitley fat over them!
treilin said:HA HA I was laughing at this... I think we all have abs with fat over them... You can just call me 2 PAC o.k.
LOL Yes, Uncle Ned is Flo's Hubby.. so when you got the male acting like a fuggin BRAT Uncle ned must be visiting (compliments of Sarge).badgergrl said:wtf? are you refering to aunt flo?
Thanks for the levorex info. Do you like it?
*Bunny* said:LOL Yes, Uncle Ned is Flo's Hubby.. so when you got the male acting like a fuggin BRAT Uncle ned must be visiting (compliments of Sarge).
Levorex I take for more of a health supp., not for the fat burning purposes. Has great ingredients up in there.
badgergrl said:I can tell that I've dumped a lot of water, so yes, I'm less bloated. I do look flatter, and my muscles aren't as full. I can see my abs again...but there's definitley fat over them!
WoNderWoMan25 said:Do you feel you LOOK the best the day after you carb up? Two days after?
Enjoy it tomorrow - Have a good weekend!![]()
florencia said:You seem to be doing great!! Enjoy tomorrow!
Happy Belated Birthday honey! I was MIA but remember that your bday was day of/around my show, that I replaced with that wedding!badgergrl said:11/12/06
Enjoyed my carbs and cheat yesterday!! Birthday cake was an icecream cake from coldstone!!![]()
Low carb day today..
1:00: 1 scoop whey, 1/2 cup pumpkin, 1/2 cup oats

Ilk said:Hey girl.. Reading up on yr posts!!!
DOING GREAT!!!!!!!
sbt2082 said:GlAD to hear you enjoyed your carbs and cheat yesterday!
I'm sure you deserved it after a week of no-low carbs![]()
*Bunny* said:Happy Belated Birthday honey! I was MIA but remember that your bday was day of/around my show, that I replaced with that wedding!
I am so glad you enjoyed yourself. Nice week of low carbing!![]()
HI BG!! How's the low carbs treating you?jenscats5 said:HI BG!! How's the low carbs treating you?
Hey Jens!!
Dropping in to saybadgergrl said:11/15/06 (low carb day)
10:00: 1 scoop whey, 1/2 cup oats
1:00: 2 oz nuts
3:00: 1 cup veggies, chicken breast
6:00: 3 whites, 1 whole egg
8:30: 1 cup veggies, chicken breast
9:30: Gym: Hammies and abs
10 min. jog on treadmill
squats: 95x12, 115x12, 135x12, 145x10
straight-leg deadlifts: 95x12, 115x10, 95x10
ham curls: 60x18, 70x14, 80x10, 60x14
3 supersets: sidebends w/30# db (15 reps each side)+ reverse crunches (30)
10:30: 2 scoops whey
12:00: 2 tbsp anpb
Total: 1595
Fat: 59 530 34%
Sat: 11 97 6%
Poly: 11 98 6%
Mono: 27 239 15%
Carbs: 86 282 18%
Fiber: 16 0 0%
Protein: 190 759 48%

10:00: 4 egg white omelet w/ mush and onionbadgergrl said:11/25/06
12:30: 1 scoop whey, 1/3 cup oats
3:30: 4 oz yam, 4 oz chik
7:30: 8 oz chik, 3 carrots
Yup I'll second that one girlie... get to itbadgergrl said:10:00: 4 egg white omelet w/ mush and onion
1:00: 2 oz cashews
Total: 1531
Fat: 54 487 33%
Sat: 10 93 6%
Poly: 9 79 5%
Mono: 23 204 14%
Carbs: 141 482 33%
Fiber: 20 0 0%
Protein: 128 512 35%
Need to start upping the protein a bit.

sbt2082 said:Yup I'll second that one girlie... get to it
Hope you are enjoying your weekend!
*Bunny* said:Hey Badge. You can squat 185? Dang! Please tell me that is in the squat rack?!
Keep up the great work!![]()
Dang anything more than the big wheels is alot to me, esp for a female. You and WW with your power squats! Grr... I'm such a weakling lolbadgergrl said:Yes, in the squat rack. Is that a lot? I know my legs have gotten a lot stronger through this bulk. I think I could do 225, but I get scared. I keep forgetting my belt, too. Need to stop that.
Me too! My favorite nut...sbt2082 said:Droppin by to say hello!Yummy I love cashews!
well, second fave I guess
*Bunny* said:How we doin' with the diet girl? I had a wicked craving for MEX omgoodness it wasn't even funny ... I have won so far...![]()
Sorry lol My fave Mexican Restaurantbadgergrl said:Me too! My favorite nut...well, second fave I guess
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Good so far since Thanksgiving.I decided not to cycle my carbs right now. I'm just sticking to a 50/30/20 thing right now...probably cycle later.
What the hell is MEX? Whatever it is, it's got nothing on the bunny!

*Bunny* said:Sorry lol My fave Mexican Restaurant![]()
It's back again!!!!!!!!!!!!badgergrl said:oh duh!
mmmmmm I love Mexican. I had been going to this little Mexican joint here at least one a week with the boyfriend until recently![]()
*Bunny* said:It's back again!!!!!!!!!!!!
*trying NOT to insert evil face*
BE GONE!NICE SQUATTING!!! You're my hero!!!badgergrl said:BE GONE!
*Bunny* said:NICE SQUATTING!!! You're my hero!!!![]()
Keep up the awesome job Badge.!
How are cravings? You shedding water like crazy too?
^^ same page 100%badgergrl said:lol Thanks! I need to focus on going a little deeper with the squats....I'm not hitting the booty and hams enough it seems.
I'm OK with cravings surprisingly....I'm feeling really focused.
I have dumped some water cuz I'm noticing more vascularity. I still feel like a fatty though, but that will change I know.
Really need to up my daily water intake.

sbt2082 said:Glad your feeling better girlie!!! DIet looking great!
scorpiogirl said:

badgergrl said:![]()
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(whipping myself)
F'ed up on the diet.![]()
Had two pancakes last night and a turkey burger and popcorn today. I just chalk it up to being stressed out and losing focus. I'm not going to let that screw me all up though.
I want to make sure I am logging everything so I can stay accountable to myself, otherwise I'll totally go downhill.
Just a minor setback![]()

I agree with CK. No worries Badge. Same boat as you. I finally went grocery shopping though & prepping food now.badgergrl said:![]()
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(whipping myself)
F'ed up on the diet.![]()
Had two pancakes last night and a turkey burger and popcorn today. I just chalk it up to being stressed out and losing focus. I'm not going to let that screw me all up though.
I want to make sure I am logging everything so I can stay accountable to myself, otherwise I'll totally go downhill.
Just a minor setback![]()

ck2006 said:maybe your body needed it, after being sick. Doesn't sound like too bad of a cheat. but I will give you a
GO BADGERGRL GO!!!
for staying accountable!![]()
*Bunny* said:I agree with CK. No worries Badge. Same boat as you. I finally went grocery shopping though & prepping food now.Minor Minor bump. Keep up the great job!
I have to start doing more walking lunges again. Thanks for the reminder![]()
florencia said:What is done is done...Now enjoy your new day and new chalenge...
You go girl!! UPHILL...downhill is for...kids on their new Xmas bikes to enjoy...and you are being pushed by all your friends...no matter how steep the hill we are your personal army!!!![]()
Like you said... its only a MINOR set back... and I'm sure you'll use up those extra carbs just to kick some @$$ your next workoutbadgergrl said:![]()
![]()
(whipping myself)
F'ed up on the diet.![]()
Had two pancakes last night and a turkey burger and popcorn today. I just chalk it up to being stressed out and losing focus. I'm not going to let that screw me all up though.
I want to make sure I am logging everything so I can stay accountable to myself, otherwise I'll totally go downhill.
Just a minor setback![]()
You got a lot on your plate girl! Take care & try not to lose it (in a box of cookies or tub of icecreambadgergrl said:12/4/06
This week is going to be really tough for me. I have so much going on. I'm trying to find a place to live next month, transfer schools, and this is the last week of the semeseter, so exams etc..![]()
I'm gonna try to make it to the gym, but it's just not my first priority this week.
Trying to keep the diet on point though.....
) If I was there we'd go eat mexican lol
*Bunny* said:You got a lot on your plate girl! Take care & try not to lose it (in a box of cookies or tub of icecream) If I was there we'd go eat mexican lol
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Good luck with exams!
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