Aromatase inhibitors to control estrogen related fat while not on cycle?

[Fat_Sumo]

Sumo,

Yes, it can help, but it is way too expensive and the results are minimal.

Really try to lock in your diet. This may seem tedious but knowing exactly how many calories you take in and what macronutrient ratios you respond to are the key. Once you do, make sure it is consistent as well as your training regime.

I have a friend that had the same problem. It took him a good year of learning and adjusting his diet. Now those problematic areas are no longer. We all have different genetic predispositions. I know it's a bitch, but looking good isn't easy nor is it free of opportunity costs.

Do your homework, be persistent and stay positive. You will be where you want to be with those three factors in mind.

Good luck!

Thanks for the response! Diet and training are in the hands of swolecat so they are about as good as can be! I am at about 8% bf now, I think if I just keep with the diet that everything will turn out! I just want to make sure that everything on a hormonal level is where it should be, I don't want anything like that sabotaging my efforts if you will!

 

[Fonz]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but is it common for people to run aromatase inhibitors sush as arimidex/femara while not running any gear to try and fight estrogen related fat deposits and keep estrogen levels low?
I have the usual estrogen related fat deposits in the chest, lower abdomen and love handles and was thinking about running some arimdex to help tighten up, I am already under 10% bf but seem to still have these problem areas! I know I am sensitive to estrogen as I have already had gyno cut out and hold water very easily!
Anyone who can shed some light on this subject would be greatly appreciated!
What would be a normal dose when not running aromatizable gear?
Would there be an estrogen rebound when you stop?

My most recent blood test results of test and estradiol:
serum testosterone................10.0 (8.0-29.5) nmol/L
estradiol...............................74 pmol/L

My T/E ratio does not look to good.

Please help

It can be done.....but I suggest you only do it in 12-16 cycles.

Use 1mg Arimidex/day or 1.25mg Femara/day as your main Anti-aromatase inhibitors.

Then, as the obvious lack of estrogen is going to play havoc with your chol/lipid levels, you have to introduce a weak estrogen into the mix to normalize them. Such as Novaldex. You only need 10mg to achieve this.

So, use either Arimidex or Femara as i stated above + 10mg Novaldex for 12-16 weeks and see how it goes.

 

[Jenetic]

Understood.

I wouldn't worry in that case. Just let time take it's course.

 

[androjunkie]

Im not sure what to say, but using an aromatise inhibitor while off is not a good idea because it really does a good job of messing up your lipids.

Aromasin is of course the exception, but it costs an arm and a leg.

I have no experience with aromasin. What is the difference between that and nolvadex/clomid/arimidex? By the way I'm not trying to steal the thread but would like this question answered.

 

[Fonz]

I have no experience with aromasin. What is the difference between that and nolvadex/clomid/arimidex? By the way I'm not trying to steal the thread but would like this question answered.

Aromasin is a aromatase suicide compound. It completely stops the conversion of endogeneous testosterone to estrogen by making the aromatase enzyme comitt "suicide" so-to-speak.
It's bonus is that it has little to no impact on your Chol/lipid levels, like other estrogen reducing compounds(arimidex/femara). To date no one has been able to explain how this is possible.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Fonz I was wondering if maybe you could comment on my E2 levels. I know my test levels are low but know one seems to be able to tell be whether or not my estradiol levels are high, or even what the normal range in men is!

I live in canada so I am not sure how the conversions might differ!

Thanks fonz

 

[Fat_Sumo]

It can be done.....but I suggest you only do it in 12-16 cycles.

Use 1mg Arimidex/day or 1.25mg Femara/day as your main Anti-aromatase inhibitors.

Then, as the obvious lack of estrogen is going to play havoc with your chol/lipid levels, you have to introduce a weak estrogen into the mix to normalize them. Such as Novaldex. You only need 10mg to achieve this.

So, use either Arimidex or Femara as i stated above + 10mg Novaldex for 12-16 weeks and see how it goes.

Thanks for this reply,very helpful! I am a little confused as to why you would add nolvadex to normalize estrogen! Does nolvadex actually raise estrogen levels, I thought all it did was bind to the ER and prevent estrogen from binding in its place, please help me understand this!

Do you think that this regimine would need to be continued indefinatley to keep estrogen levels where I want them or after say a 16 week period of this would I be able to discontinue them and will estrogen stay where its at or will there be a rebound effect?

Thanks fonz for you time!

 

[Triple J]

I'll just add femara and nolva interact somehow. I recall nolva reduces the effectiveness of the letro but not sure exactly how.

I would think 1mg adex or letro, twice a week, would improve your T/E ratio considerably. Regarding your lipid profile that is another matter, best safeguard that with diet and supplements (garlic, niacin, fish oil, etc)

 

[Fat_Sumo]

bump!