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Arnold'sApprentice

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I take it personally that you feel you need to result to insulting me about my use of steroids, so I would like to see you back up your mouth. I have 10 years of natural training under my belt before I ever used a steroid, competed successfully as a powerlifter, and have trained 100's of other natural athletes. I turned to steroids when I could not make any other gains naturally as I had plateaued for over 3 years.
So since you are natural and obviously have so very much to back up your mouth, lets see it. What are your accomplishments, and what does this incredible natural physique of yours look like? Lets see some pics, I'll even go first, these are some natural pics of me, now lets see yours.
Not like there are any mods here, but I would like to see this thread stay mature and flame free

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wow needsize. that is amazing. even if you were on AS in those pics I'd still think you looked amazing. by natural does that also exclude prohormones?
 
Needsize is an impressiver person...100%. I respect him from one end to the other....in all aspects.

B True
 
Aussie jug i am no hater.Needsize began something by joining in mocking me and having a flame.

Obviously i don't have a physique like yours NS. I have barely 2 yrs training experience under my belt.However,i shall post some pics in a few months which you shall no doubt pick apart.

Do i have a body that can get second place in regional competitions ?No. Do I want one? No. Have I ever eaten two girls out at the same time..? Yes.


You look exceptional in those pics -if that's before the needle or prohormones then you are trully outstanding..even if it isn't you still are.

I would like to extend the olive branch but if you wish to continue any ill feeling you have towards me then so be it,I will still sleep well.

Peace

AA
 
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Great to see the off season pics! Look incredible!!! Great work! And Fuck the weak and simple minded! Its easy to throw around alot of complex sounding bullshit, but when you cut it to the core there is no depth. Lots of jealousy too. Dont let it get to you!
 
AA, the only reason I made the comment is that I have seen you make way too many comments kissing debasers ass, and after a while it gets irritating. i didnt make a big deal, just agreed with another post. That being said, this had nothing to do with debaser, I just didnt like to see the shameless asskissing. Especially since it was always about being a mod. Debaser does have a good knowlege base and I do read his posts to see what he has to say, but no one who is constantly at the centre of flame wars should be a mod...
And AA, when you do post your pics I wont pick them apart, thats not what I'm about
 
I cant help but get pretty annoyed when people infer that steroids are a miracle cure, you just inject and grow. In the 2 years that I have been doing them, I have not missed one workout, have cancelled trips so that I wouldnt miss a meal, and am now cramming food in my mouth every 1.5 hours (8 meals a day)even though its leaving me feeling sick all night long.

Heres a pic after 1 year of juicing, the 2nd pic was taken after 2 years. As you can see by comparing all 3, no miracles here, just some steady growth on a physique that was already advanced


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needsize said:
I cant help but get pretty annoyed when people infer that steroids are a miracle cure, you just inject and grow. In the 2 years that I have been doing them, I have not missed one workout, have cancelled trips so that I wouldnt miss a meal, and am now cramming food in my mouth every 1.5 hours (8 meals a day)even though its leaving me feeling sick all night long.
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i'm not bashing or trying to put you down or anything, but i do have a question.

what's the point in doing all of this if it makes you sick or makes you miss out on things that you would do for enjoyment?
 
crak600 said:


i'm not bashing or trying to put you down or anything, but i do have a question.

what's the point in doing all of this if it makes you sick or makes you miss out on things that you would do for enjoyment?
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Its dedication bro (I know, you didnt ask me)
 
crak600 said:


i'm not bashing or trying to put you down or anything, but i do have a question.

what's the point in doing all of this if it makes you sick or makes you miss out on things that you would do for enjoyment?
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this is what I do for enjoyment, not the getting sick part but bodybuilding. Over the last year I had a lot of trouble putting on size, even with the steroids, so this time I am trying to stuff as much protein in as possible to see if that makes a difference, and so far it has. I dont mind some discomfort if it means I am growing.
As for missing out on stuff, the things that I truely enjoy, I make sure they still happen, but all the other things like going out to clubs and that kind of stuff, given the choice between that or staying home and growing, the choice is easy for me
 
NW - yeah, i know it's dedication, and it's great to have that much dedication. i just can't see being that dedicated to something that makes you sick amd miss out on other things though. do the results justify it? guess that should've been added to the origonal question.
 
crak600 said:
NW - yeah, i know it's dedication, and it's great to have that much dedication. i just can't see being that dedicated to something that makes you sick amd miss out on other things though. do the results justify it? guess that should've been added to the origonal question.
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the feeling sick thing is no big deal, and for missing out, I am 29 years old now with a wife who is 7 months pregant, and she is the world to me. So by staying home I'm really not missing out on anything, in fact, I'm very lucky that there is so much for me to stay home for...
And the results are worth it to me, I've been obsessive about being a bodybuilder since I was 5 and first saw Arnold, so I cant even verbalize how much it means to me to get to my goals, I've had them for over 20 years
 
Need - what's your current routine like? Any cardio? Food intake? I want to use you as my mentor..................
 
needsize, you have great genetics. To be honest if I saw you when you were natural and you said you were, I would be someone inclined to think you were lying and on something. Anyway, don't let the haters get you down or piss you off. The more impressive your physique the more jelousy you'll inspire. Its just aprt of the game, unfortunately.

Arnold'sApprentace, you definately have me beat. I've had 3 ways with two girls and gone done one one while fucking the other, but I have never actally eaten two out at the same time. That requires some creative positioning. Props to you for that one...
 
what is everyone on this board a pimp? This was supposed to stay flame and retard post free

I'm cracking up over that one!

And I can honestly say that if I manage to get needsize's natty level of muscularity, I will be one happy dude!
 
A few things to say:

1. Arnoldsapprentice, I'm not sure which thread needsize is talking about, but there's no real reason to flame someone for steroid use if they have put in their natural time beforehand. I personally disagree with steroid use, and will never use myself, but I have no problems with others' responsible use.

p.s. I've had a four-way before, and a few three-ways. Though you do have me beat going down on 2 girls simultaneously :D

2. needsize I wasn't seriously considering becoming a mod, but the reason I'm at the center of flame wars is generally because of others, not myself. Many of the people on this forum can't fathom the idea of logical argumentation, to them it MUST be MAN vs. MAN, not argument vs. argument. This is a sad state of affairs on what is deemed a "discussion" board.

3. Also needsize you look great both natural and enhanced. On the dedication front:

I recently have gotten into video games again. In high school I was a bigtime video game nerd, and then after my senior year I started going out constantly. Now I go out every once in awhile, but video games seem to keep me occupied while I'm at home eating and growing, rather than going hungry and/or drinking. I wish more of my friends had the same goals, though there are usually some that aren't huge partiers that I can count on to hang with. Conclusion: who would have thought that sitting on your ass playing video games would be conducive to crafting a better body? :D
 
FTR - i was allowed to eat them and that's all..there was no penetration at all. One girl lay on her back the other lay on top of her and stuck her butt in my face...I ate some butt too! I was lucky enough to get a handjob after. it was a great night and unlike some claims here it actually happened.

My point? NS you look good -i have praised you many times on your many pic threads- but i still get the girls with my 15.5 inch arms.

I still can't help thinking that if it was Clint I always agreed with people wouldn't flame me so much.
 
Arnold'sApprentice said:
FTR - i was allowed to eat them and that's all..there was no penetration at all. One girl lay on her back the other lay on top of her and stuck her butt in my face...I ate some butt too! I was lucky enough to get a handjob after. it was a great night and unlike some claims here it actually happened.

My point? NS you look good -i have praised you many times on your many pic threads- but i still get the girls with my 15.5 inch arms.

I still can't help thinking that if it was Clint I always agreed with people wouldn't flame me so much.
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If you ever plan on getting married do you think you would tell your future wife about that? :)
 
only the insecure find the need to brag about how many girls they've been with. since when was bodybuilding about getting pussy?

if you want to be truly successful in this sport, you need to lift for yourself and no one else. cause no one out there cares if you miss a meal, miss a workout or only get 4 hours of sleep. lift for yourself, start to care, start to grow.
 
MOD said:
only the insecure find the need to brag about how many girls they've been with. since when was bodybuilding about getting pussy?

if you want to be truly successful in this sport, you need to lift for yourself and no one else. cause no one out there cares if you miss a meal, miss a workout or only get 4 hours of sleep. lift for yourself, start to care, start to grow.
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fuckin' A!!!!
 
NWinters said:


If you ever plan on getting married do you think you would tell your future wife about that? :)
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I may do...I wouldn't need to if i married one :) :D
 
Really? I don't think it's insecurity MOD...I just like other guys to know that I get more pussy than them :D
 
MOD said:


if you want to be truly successful in this sport, you need to lift for yourself and no one else. cause no one out there cares if you miss a meal, miss a workout or only get 4 hours of sleep. lift for yourself, start to care, start to grow.
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I lift to stay hot to the chicks .I know that's not cool here but actually all I see is guys talking about how they wanna get laid. I'm no exception.

I have a physique that isn't exactly shabby ...but it need a hell of a lot of work too. The danger of getting too carried away with lifting is that you can go too far and get too big and appear unsexy to the ladies. Most of you won't care about that and I say good on you guys..but I do
 
That's true NW ....many girls (by no means all) are less into looks and money ...but some of them are shallow little critters but are worth the shit for the payoff :D
 
WalkingBeast said:
Fuck lifting for pussy! Im not willing to bust my ass for some bitch.
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LMAO..no I bust my ass so i can bust HER ass :D :D
 
MOD said:
only the insecure find the need to brag about how many girls they've been with. since when was bodybuilding about getting pussy?

if you want to be truly successful in this sport, you need to lift for yourself and no one else. cause no one out there cares if you miss a meal, miss a workout or only get 4 hours of sleep. lift for yourself, start to care, start to grow.
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I have been scanning this thread for the pat 5+ minutes waiting to read this. Thank you.
 
I'm glad this never did turn into a flame war, that wasnt my intention, I just get pissed when people assume everything I have is due to the steroids..I just wish it were that easy.

Debaser, i have always been a gamer, so thats always helped me with bodybuilding, just give me a new resident evil game and I'll never leave the house. I have a PS2, game cube and PC, those are my babies...

And all those talking about 3 ways, I'm married with a kid due in 2 months, can we talk about something a little less frustrating.....
 
Arnold'sApprentice said:

I still can't help thinking that if it was Clint I always agreed with people wouldn't flame me so much.
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I sure hope not.

I've had many disagreements with friends on this forum...many times.

B True
 
needsize said:
Debaser, i have always been a gamer, so thats always helped me with bodybuilding, just give me a new resident evil game and I'll never leave the house. I have a PS2, game cube and PC, those are my babies...
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see, now we're talkin':)
 
what is all this...
forgive me,
but this thread turned into some kind of pimp competition
details should really be kept unspoken

Needsize-
awesome work :D
it's nice to hear someone so deadicated
Congrats on your baby :)
 
Mrs_Thaibox said:
what is all this...
forgive me,
but this thread turned into some kind of pimp competition
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Yeah and we never worked out who won. I think we need to elect a panel of judges :D
 
NS,

I don't have much to add beyond, "Wow, that's an awesome natural physique."

Months ago, I remember you saying that you waited to get as good a natural base as you possibly could before taking the next step, but wow. You were NOT kidding!

You looked pretty lean in those pictures, too, with pretty good separation visible in your legs and the hallmark Needsize small waist ;)

Impressive.
 
guldukat said:
NS,

I don't have much to add beyond, "Wow, that's an awesome natural physique."

Months ago, I remember you saying that you waited to get as good a natural base as you possibly could before taking the next step, but wow. You were NOT kidding!

You looked pretty lean in those pictures, too, with pretty good separation visible in your legs and the hallmark Needsize small waist ;)

Impressive.
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thanks bro, appreciate the compliments. I do wish it hadnt taken me 10 years to build that natural base, but I am still glad I waited. Funny thing is that 2 months before those first pics I was way leaner, I had dieted down for my honeymoon and was shredded, but after we got back I went back to bulking and eating big
 
MattRecc said:
I have had sex with 46 girls simultaneously (i am an alien and have 46 penises)
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Good to hear a yank with a sense of humour!

You fuckers take yourselves far to seriously.
 
lavi, here is the post.

In the first pics, not sure of bodyfat, guessing around 10% or so, in the one after my first cycle, I had just finished a diet and was right around 8%
 
I would say this thread is a draw...it's more like a Peace Accord Agreement then a flame war...
weak weak weak....

WEll maybe Needsize has a bit of an upper hand since he delivered a blow and then AA makes the pussy explanation which was pretty weak...BTW, i get 200000 pussies a day...i got them all from a toy store and i just go get it on with each of them everyday! It's called portapussy...and i love it...See, at least some people get more pussy then you. Without 90% of the headache and you don't have to make breakfast...j/k
 
Sebass67 said:
Without 90% of the headache and you don't have to make breakfast...j/k
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if you do it correctly they make breakfast for you (this coming from the guy who does all the chores in the house instead of his wife...)
 
needsize said:


if you do it correctly they make breakfast for you (this coming from the guy who does all the chores in the house instead of his wife...)
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damn Needsize she got you whipped :( , I hope she can cook :)
 
Lord_Suston said:



damn Needsize she got you whipped :( , I hope she can cook :)
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Nefi has me whipped...and she can cook too;)

B True
 
Lord_Suston said:



lol, that's because she could probably press you over head and toss you out if you talk back ;)

Greek food is good:p
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You know...she has lost 25 pounds since you met her in July:) :) :)

B True
 
damn, she was musclar to begin with (pretty ripped) let me guess she is even now leaner and stronger, better watch out man a woman like that can kick your ass if you get her mad, lol
 
Lord_Suston said:
damn, she was musclar to begin with (pretty ripped) let me guess she is even now leaner and stronger, better watch out man a woman like that can kick your ass if you get her mad, lol
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You are 100% correct!!!!!

B True
 
Lord_Suston said:



damn Needsize she got you whipped :( , I hope she can cook :)
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she sure can, fed me very well tonight, beautiful and my best friend to boot, hard to beat...
 
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