Are orals necessary???

[strengthmonster]

No, you do not need them. I know a few competetive bodybuilders that never use orals anymore due to elevated liver enzyme readings. I have actually stopped them my self for a while due to a high alanine transimunase reading and doubt I will ever use them again.

 

[dirty]

yes, cause you can't bang up Clomid

 

[reconnect]

i sometimes use orals only cos im a chiken shit

 

[whodaman]

Of course clomid is a neccessity, but other then clomid, you probably wont get a definative answer on this one....but I don't think they are necessary (although I do use them). You can make solid steady gains on injectables only, but it's a matter of personal preference. Some people swear by Primo/d-bol or test/d-bol and can't get enough of those types of cycles. Personally, I enjoy adding d-bol to jump start some of my cycles.

 

[Andy13]

I don't feel they are nessasary...I am on a cycle using all injectables right now (Test, Eq, Fina) and am having good results.

Agree.

Come on, guys.. Can you really say you wouldn't be as big if you never used dbol?

With TA, eq, test, deca (not necesarily in the same cycle!) You will grow as much as possible for you.

Andy

 

[Horsecock Dbol]

yes

I think they should be included in any cycle because the orals go to work right away as the injectibles take time to build up.

If you think that by not using orals you are sparing your liver you are mistaken! Injectibles are pretty hard on the liver too!

 

[Jan]

Re: yes

I think they should be included in any cycle because the orals go to work right away as the injectibles take time to build up.

If you use propionate or suspension, you feel it working in just a few days.

 

[Andy13]

Re: yes

I think they should be included in any cycle because the orals go to work right away as the injectibles take time to build up.

If you think that by not using orals you are sparing your liver you are mistaken! Injectibles are pretty hard on the liver too!

I've already covered this one.. Do a search for it under my name.. Front end loading with orals IS NOT the same as with injectables.. If you insist on using orals, you should still front end load injectables..

Incedentally, Even if you use enanthate, if loaded, you reach max theraputic value after 24hrs.. How's that for jump starting a cycle?

Andy

 

[serge]

you tell them andy..........

i dont think orals are necessary, if you do test+tren you pretty much covering all your needs. also when you compare the actuall tissue generated from test+dboll to test+tren; they will be very similar....maybe test+tren will even be better. so the bottom line is if you run test+dboll you probably will look bigger while you are bulking but as soon as you start cutting, the water bloat will fall off and so will your size. where as with test+tren you will actually have a good idea what you will look like when you start cutting, since the water retension wont be as profound (assuming you use arimidex ofcoarse)

 

[DREXX]

Orals are fun but far from necessary.

I will be doing simple cycles for a while of Test and Deca and then only throw in dbol when gains slow.