Are orals necessary???

[Jan]

Have you ever think about this before?

Are orals really necessary if you want really good gains?

I think YES, they have its place in cycle. On the other hand, if you take 1250 mg test per week, is not it enough? Are orals like Dbol necessary in this kind of cycle?

What do you think?

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, I don't think they are necessary. But then I also don't think you need to have an injectable to have decent gains.

I just think it would be silly to not take advantage of everything you can. So why would somebody swear off orals?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I don't feel they are nessasary...I am on a cycle using all injectables right now (Test, Eq, Fina) and am having good results.

 

[therealj]

not as long as you use injectable d-bol and winstrol depot and primobolan depot

 

[Jan]

We all know that orals are the worst for the liver.

So, because of this I am thinking about not using orals.

For example, if I would use 1250 mg test/w, 500 mg EQ/w and maybe 50 mg Winstrol Depot/ED, are here orals necessary?

This question is what I have never seen here before properly answered.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, I think that would be a fine cycle. However, whether you take winny orally or you inject it, it's still hard on the liver. So if your concern is to get away from that stress, you might want to rethink the winny.

 

[Jan]

Oops, my fault, I forgot in hurry, my boss is walking around...

Yes, with Winny you are right. Anyway, if I get Winny off and replace with Primobolan 500 mg/w, would it be COMPARABLE to cycle when I would use orals?

This all leads to this question: does the stress for your liver from orals worth the benefits you get from orals (gains, etc...)?

I am very interested what you think, I would like to finally solve this.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, anything I say will just be a wild guess on my part. I don't know of any 'hard' evidence of similar cycles compared one with orals, one without.

However, I would think a test/eq/primo cycle would give similar gains to test/eq/winny. I think this would be a decent cycle.

But ulitmately it comes down to how you feel about it. It's just a question of how much risk do you want to take. And if you think the risks of orals outweigh the benefits, then don't do them.

Now, if you are wanting to mimic the hardness you get from winny, I don't think the primo will do it. Now trenbolone sure as hell will.

 

[Jan]

I am just looking for biggest possible gains.

I am a competing BB in my country and have unlimited access to gear, so I just want to find some final answer if use +1250 mg test + other inject. or less with orals.

 

[TxLonghorn]

have unlimited access to gear

Ok, now you're just making me jealous.