Are depression meds worth it?

[Austin316]

My mom wants me to get on paxil, I know its not quite up there as Prozac, but I still don't wanna take any meds. But on the otehr hand, my anxiety spells have really been sucking lately, and Ive gotten depressed over stupid things. SO I don't know what I shoud do. I should be ok when this semester is over, but Im not positive.

Has Paxil or anytthing else worked for any of you?

 

[conosco la vostra voce]

It worked for a sibling of mine but getting off of it was awful.

 

[HappyScrappy]

I've been on zoloft twice.
I don't like the sides, but it works, so it is worth it in the long run.

 

[daised]

i am on prozac, as with any medication, it has it's positives and it's negatives.

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Use some of the newer ones and give it a try. I took Prozac for maybe a month and it was like being castrated. It made my cock like a taffy pull. Not fun.

 

[the nature boy]

bro I took paxil and prozac. I liked prozac more. If you decide to take meds or not, you should at least go to therapy.

meds are not a permanent solution, they just mask the problem. besides there have no long term studies on any potential side effects associated with anti depressants.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Users of antidepressants include both Columbine shooters, te kid in Kentucky who shot the otehrs at a prayer service, and Phil Hartmann's wife.

These drugs work about 1/6th of the time. You're better off with cocaine.

 

[Wombat]

Users of antidepressants include both Columbine shooters, te kid in Kentucky who shot the otehrs at a prayer service, and Phil Hartmann's wife.

These drugs work about 1/6th of the time. You're better off with cocaine.

Yes--But she was mixing them with coke--booze--and who knows what else. The antidepressants did not make her do what she did.

 

[luv2workout]

Paxil

After seeing what Paxil has done to my father in law - i would never recommend anyone use it!!!!!!!

He got on it about 2 years ago - for temper, anxiety, etc...It did wonders for him for about 8 mts., then slowly it was losing its effectiveness so they upped his dose....this is when things went BAD! He would break out in a full blown sweat - it was GROSS! Running down his face - underarms soaking wet..yuck! then he started losing his mind - he would totally lose concentration..he couldnt remember shit! He would talk for hours and never say anything...he was going crazy!! he tried to decrease his dose again - but OMG - the withdrawals are HORRIBLE.....my mother in law left him last week b/c she couldnt handle it , so I dont know exactly where he's at or how he's doing now.....

Just my .02 cents

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Yes--But she was mixing them with coke--booze--and who knows what else. The antidepressants did not make her do what she did.

You are stating an opinion.

It is a fact that she was on anti-depressants. It is a fact she shot Phil and herself.

It is a fact she was using other drugs.

It is a fact that there are no long term studies about what these drugs do. Dr. Leon Eisenberg of Harvard Medical school states that Prozac, Luvox and others are "potent medications that change nerve transimssion." He continues "No one knows what happens after two or three years of that".

It is also a fact that the shooters I mentioned were on Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft or Luvox respectively.

It is a fact that the makers of these drugs have generally reached settlements with surviving familes.

It is a fact that doctors are forced to prescribe from a list of preferred drugs, or the HMO will not reimburse the patient. The doctor's hands are often tied. You may be getting a drug that is not optimal for you, or that you don't need.

It is the opinion of Dr. Peter Breggin, author of two books on the subject, that "the vast majority of studies done on Prozac show it to be of no value whatsoever. But the manufacturers are allowed to select one or two studies that show it to be of marginal assistance and present them to the FDA".

Hey - it;s your call. But make an informed one.

 

[MoneyBags]

if you are a weak individual than take the fucking medication and become dependent on it to live. if you arent gonna be a fucking pussy then stay off the drugs.

 

[Milhouse]

I dont want to sound like an idiot or anything, but I reccomend smoking weed.

Question: How many people who are buzzed on weed are pissed off, angry, depressed etc? Not many unless booze is involved to.

I am not saying smoke it everyday but once or twice a week, maybe that will help.

I personally would do that before any prescription meds.

 

[conosco la vostra voce]

My sister wouldn't be here if she hadn't taken the paxil. It did WONDERS for her.

I can't speak for anyone else. I worried so much for her and they helped so much for her.

 

[saint808]

If your problem is totally chemical then yes, if not then you will not gain any benefit from the drugs. I reccoemend seeing a counselor first and foremost.


Rich

 

[Milhouse]

Hey Austin,

Did you do a couple of cycles in the past.

Why I ask is maybe your T-Levels are low. That can make you sluggish and depressed too. Get them checked out first.

 

[daised]

My sister wouldn't be here if she hadn't taken the paxil. It did WONDERS for her.

I can't speak for anyone else. I worried so much for her and they helped so much for her.

it helped me sooo much, but there are downsides too.

 

[Virtual Acid]

MhMm.

Hey, thought id reply because i take paxil myself. It really is worth it there's been a massive change in my behavior i think, not as sad as before. it takes about 3 weeks to kick in though so be patient... hope i helped a lil..good luck....

 

[thesuperstar]

people who are depressed are weak minded.

cant handle stresses of life, work, school, relationships.

pussy is my cure for all. plus beer is fun too.

 

[daised]

Originally posted by thesuperstar aka the ignorant
people who are depressed are weak minded.

cant handle stresses of life, work, school, relationships.

pussy is my cure for all. plus beer is fun too.

were you dropped on your head as a child, because i know you weren't born being this ignorant?

Austin once the search is back up look up some old threads i started on prozac, there are a couple.

 

[Thaibox]

Superstar, you're a fucking turd
Anyone can get depressed. I've known professional NHB fighters that are the most high speed fuckers I've ever met that have fallen into deep depression. Its something you have no control over. We can't all be as badass as your delusional ass tough guy.

 

[HappyScrappy]

there is a difference between being mopey or down in the dumps, and full blown clinical depression.
if you aren't feeling great, the day just sucks, hell, the week sucks - that is nothing. then I agree that yes, you have control over that, and if you can't handle it, then toughen up.

but clinical depression is a whole different deal.

unless you have been through it, it is easy to spout off how it is nothing, and how the drugs don't matter.

do I think everyone needs drugs? no.
do I think america is overperscribing them? yes.

but for the most part, I'm disappointed with a few people on this thread.

 

[Thaibox]

Thats what I'm talking about Scrappy. Its got nothing to do with "oh my girl cheated on me" or "I got laid off today". Move the fuck on. I'm not defending the overabundance of soccer moms on Prozac and Zoloft. Thats bullshit.

Superstar said "people who are depressed are weak minded." A total load of shit. People who are clinically depressed with a chemical imbalance they cannot control are who I'm defending.

 

[starfish]

Depression is a physical illness with psychological symptoms. It just comes with a stigma attached to it. You can literally take a depressed person and and non-depressed person and look at their brain waves (looks like a picture with a bunch of different colors), and they will be totally different because of seratonin levels.

Don't knock someone with depression, one day you may very well be in those same shoes.

starfish

 

[MoneyBags]

depression is pure bullshit. its a fucking choice not something that just hits you for no reason. maybe it hits you when you realize what a pathetic fag you are or if your life sucks so you have a reason to be depressed but people who are happy dont suddenly get hit with depression for no reason.

 

[PinK233]

Depression is a choice?? Oh yes because people just LOVE being down in the dumps and feeling like shit all the time...

moneybags you need to be feltched...

 

[Wombat]

You are stating an opinion.

It is a fact that she was on anti-depressants. It is a fact she shot Phil and herself.

It is a fact she was using other drugs.

It is a fact that there are no long term studies about what these drugs do. Dr. Leon Eisenberg of Harvard Medical school states that Prozac, Luvox and others are "potent medications that change nerve transimssion." He continues "No one knows what happens after two or three years of that".

It is also a fact that the shooters I mentioned were on Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft or Luvox respectively.

It is a fact that the makers of these drugs have generally reached settlements with surviving familes.

It is a fact that doctors are forced to prescribe from a list of preferred drugs, or the HMO will not reimburse the patient. The doctor's hands are often tied. You may be getting a drug that is not optimal for you, or that you don't need.

It is the opinion of Dr. Peter Breggin, author of two books on the subject, that "the vast majority of studies done on Prozac show it to be of no value whatsoever. But the manufacturers are allowed to select one or two studies that show it to be of marginal assistance and present them to the FDA".

Hey - it;s your call. But make an informed one.

Fact is more people that are not on anti-ds kill others then do people that are using anti-ds

Fact most people that see a shrink, are not 100% truthful with them and in most cases are giving the incorrect meds.

Fact some people that kill others do not do it on a whim--it is a thought that is always with them and rarely do they confide in anyone about there thoughts.(including shrinks) And if they do,
the shrink will almost always have them hospitalizes for a 2 week min. And be put on drugs that make those listed above look like candy. And the patient will either not have the thoughts or in a lot of cases will lie about not having the thoughts just to get out.

Fact--the only reason med companies reach settlements is they do not want the bad press. Millions of people take these drugs and only a handful kill and use the drugs as an excuse.


Fact -- Phil Hartmans wifes medical insurance was not an HMO
but she had her own doctor.

Psychotherapy can not be an exact science--so when a doctor gives one medication, it is up to the patient to report exactly how the meds. are making one feel. a lot of times the patient relys only on meds and thinks that there is a magic pill that has all there answers. Best thing to do is inform one self on the types of meds a doc is giving you and not rely on him to tell you how they should make you feel but be 100% honest with him and yourself. These meds will not make a person kill another--But if you already have feelings of killing someone and are not honest with your doctor about those feelings then you will never get the correct meds and therapy. People that have those types of thoughts are usually schizophrenics(they hear voices) or very strong thoughts that are not there own. And the above drugs will do nothing for them. There are a lot of people out there that have schizophrenia and will never be treated for it. Because they are not truthful with there doctors and or themselves...Peace

 

[MoneyBags]

Depression is a choice?? Oh yes because people just LOVE being down in the dumps and feeling like shit all the time...

moneybags you need to be feltched...

depression can be cured by just having a good time. people like to make it like its some chemical thing and nothing they do could make a difference. thats bullshit!!! you are depressed because your life fucking sucks!!! if you had better shit going on then your ass wouldnt be depressed!!!

 

[jersey boy]

zoloft

 

[guards]

I've posted my opinions on anti-depressant use many times. And here i go again........

I disagree with your mom saying that she wants you to to take paxil. Is she a doctor?? Is she a psychologist????? If she isn't, than she isn't in a position to make the judgement call as to what meds you should be administered. This is the problem that I have been ranting and raving about for a long time, the fact that people assume that these drugs are miracle cures and should be given at the first signs of anxiety or depression. Perhaps this drug will benefit you but please exhaust all other options. Drug therapy should be a last resort to treat these disorders. I acknowledge the fact that some people benefit greatly from these drugs but it is my opinion that there are many more that do NOT benefit from them yet keep getting the prescription filled. Talk to a few doctors, get a few unbiased opinions and than make the judgement for yourself, not your mother or anybody
else.

Good luck and I hope things work out for you. I know from personal experience that dealing with any kind of psychological or physiological disorder is trying at the best of times but with good friends and supportive peers everything will work out in the end.


My 2 cc's

 

[Austin316]

Hey Austin,

Did you do a couple of cycles in the past.

Why I ask is maybe your T-Levels are low. That can make you sluggish and depressed too. Get them checked out first.

I did one pretty much all last summer, I never was depressed once while I was on, I always felt real good and Im getting back on.

I don't think I am gonna take anyhting, I never really was, but my mom told me to consider it because it works for her. Ill just sit this shit out, its probably just school and money thats doing it to me

 

[Austin316]

there is a difference between being mopey or down in the dumps, and full blown clinical depression.
if you aren't feeling great, the day just sucks, hell, the week sucks - that is nothing. then I agree that yes, you have control over that, and if you can't handle it, then toughen up.

but clinical depression is a whole different deal.

unless you have been through it, it is easy to spout off how it is nothing, and how the drugs don't matter.

do I think everyone needs drugs? no.
do I think america is overperscribing them? yes.

but for the most part, I'm disappointed with a few people on this thread.

Does being in the dumps throw you into sporadict anxiety attacks? Ill be fine one second, and going nuts the next. And like I said, its very present in my family

 

[MasterMind]

Re: MhMm.

Hey, thought id reply because i take paxil myself. It really is worth it there's been a massive change in my behavior i think, not as sad as before. it takes about 3 weeks to kick in though so be patient... hope i helped a lil..good luck....

I doubt its the meds...it's gotta be that boyfriend you were talking about

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Re: Paxil

After seeing what Paxil has done to my father in law - i would never recommend anyone use it!!!!!!!

He got on it about 2 years ago - for temper, anxiety, etc...It did wonders for him for about 8 mts., then slowly it was losing its effectiveness so they upped his dose....this is when things went BAD! He would break out in a full blown sweat - it was GROSS! Running down his face - underarms soaking wet..yuck! then he started losing his mind - he would totally lose concentration..he couldnt remember shit! He would talk for hours and never say anything...he was going crazy!! he tried to decrease his dose again - but OMG - the withdrawals are HORRIBLE.....my mother in law left him last week b/c she couldnt handle it , so I dont know exactly where he's at or how he's doing now.....

Just my .02 cents

sounds like a legit lawsuit to me. Honest, I hate seeing people sue over shit but this well deserved. Poor guy.

 

[conosco la vostra voce]

I was on paxil for a while. It was cool at first...I was horny all the time, and had tons of energy. After a while though the side effects got kinda rough. The equipment wasn't, um...functioning it you know what I mean. Plus my hands would shake a lot and i'd get headaches.

Also used Acendin. Not bad. Doubt it made much difference.

Strange how some anti-d's work for some people and not for others.

 

[Benzi]

I dont want to sound like an idiot or anything, but I reccomend smoking weed.

Question: How many people who are buzzed on weed are pissed off, angry, depressed etc? Not many unless booze is involved to.

I am not saying smoke it everyday but once or twice a week, maybe that will help.

The reason why potheads arn't angry is because they escape
Personally, i don't think that escaping your problems are going to help any
antidepressants allowe one to face their problems without having to escape.. just giving them a little booster

 

[guards]

The reason why potheads arn't angry is because they escape
Personally, i don't think that escaping your problems are going to help any
antidepressants allowe one to face their problems without having to escape.. just giving them a little booster

Where are YOU getting your information??????

 

[Lao Tzu]

there was an anti paxil thread a few months ago. but the search isn't working right now. i've had friends go on klonopin for anxiety. they said it works. i'm supposed to be on xanax for panic attacks, but i'm not. i should probably take something. damn hypochondria.

i don't know how or why, but alot of mood stabalizers are very addictive & have bad side effects. so you should look into them more and find a trustworthy doctor to prescribe them.

it depends on the individual too. some people get better from medicine X and some don't. i think there are about 30-60 or so antianxiety drugs out there to choose from.

 

[the nature boy]

I find it kind of humorous that all of a sudden we have armchair psychiatrists who think anti depressants are bullshit and depression is imaginary. Too funny. Every time I go to a chat board I seem to encounter lots of these "experts" on a variety of subjects.

 

[JohnnyO]

The Anti-Depressant Generation: Feeling Neither Highs or Lows.

"Well how does it feel?"
"Ehh.. I can take it or leave it"

 

[luv2workout]

Re: Re: Paxil

sounds like a legit lawsuit to me. Honest, I hate seeing people sue over shit but this well deserved. Poor guy.

Kneepads....
I really think he is too fucked in the head to sue now...Im serious, he's not even the same person...Oh and I forgot one more really bad side ---- He is sooo paranoid about everything..he constantly thinks people are looking in the house, cops are coming,etc...wierd shit....nightmares.....He's basically lost his mind...I think he is planning on seeing a specialist - maybe when he upped the dose it caused a chem. imbalance? I dont know, thats just my best guess?????

 

[Wombat]

depression is pure bullshit. its a fucking choice not something that just hits you for no reason. maybe it hits you when you realize what a pathetic fag you are or if your life sucks so you have a reason to be depressed but people who are happy dont suddenly get hit with depression for no reason.

I know a guy in the wwf who is the top 3 wrestler in the world whose life far from sucks that is taking anti-Ds----Countless amounts of actors and actresses----Probably(just a guess on this one)75% if not higher of all pro bodybuilders are on some sort of either anti-D-pain killers--sleeping pills---does there life suck? Only they could answer that...Doctors are notorious for being on anti-Ds and/or other meds for depression. Olympic athletes take anti-anx meds for various reasons. Police and fire fighters use stress related meds from time to time. The truth is most people do not walk around on this earth being happy. Content yes.. But happy no. 2 diff-feelings---I had dinner with my wife and her boss and husband about a month ago. Her bosses husband is worth in the neighborhood of 25 million dollars, has a 3 million dollar house in corrondo(sp) San Diego---Seemingly has everything going for him. Has a Lamborgini(sp)Diablo and a few other toys but the moment I met this guy he was a nervous wreck(thats the way I saw it anyway) His wife was telling my wife that he is taking some anti-As and that he gets paranoid about his money. Does his life suck? Does he love life?--Like I said only he could answer that...

Why is the dental profession one of the top fields that has a high risk for suicide? They make tons of money--set there own hours--meet tons of chix--But most dentists are profectionists in a world that is not perfect...peace...