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Anyone ever use DXM??

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And if so, have you ever gotten past the 4th plateau and entered sigma plateau. This quote was taken from thirdplateau.org faq section:

At Plateau Sigma interesting things happen to reality. Some have reported vivid, entirely realistic contacts with alien entities, spirits, gods and goddesses. Unlike the fourth plateau, these contacts often take place with eyes open, immersed in everyday reality. Although none of the people who reported these experiences to me had bad trips, most related that the experiences were so real that they felt they easily could have
 
Yeah I have, I don't consider it all that the way the websites like that go into it, for me it just made me really happy and calm, and it fucked up my perceptions, like I couldnt' see straight.

Also I never got visuals until I smoked some pot, that's when I got visuals.

It's fun shit but have some benadryl handy the first time you do it.
 
Lumberg said:
Yeah I have, I don't consider it all that the way the websites like that go into it, for me it just made me really happy and calm, and it fucked up my perceptions, like I couldnt' see straight.

Also I never got visuals until I smoked some pot, that's when I got visuals.

It's fun shit but have some benadryl handy the first time you do it.

Gots to set up the environment with the right music, a mat on the floor to stretch and a TV with static with no sound. Seems that overstimulating visually increases the effects and of course you need to take 1500-2000mg to hit the higher plateaus mentioned on the websites, it varies according to body weight so that would be too much for 150lb person. How much did you take?? I had some experiences that went way beyond what I read on the websites, of course I was divided dosing over 2000 mg to hit those levels. Was incredible. :p
 
BrothaBill said:
Gots to set up the environment with the right music, a mat on the floor to stretch and a TV with static with no sound. Seems that overstimulating visually increases the effects and of course you need to take 1500-2000mg to hit the higher plateaus mentioned on the websites, it varies according to body weight so that would be too much for 150lb person. How much did you take?? I had some experiences that went way beyond what I read on the websites, of course I was divided dosing over 2000 mg to hit those levels. Was incredible. :p

2g is a really high dose
 
ripper2 said:
2g is a really high dose

Oh YEAH! it is and only for an experienced user to get the higher levels but Ive blown way past that one time I was having fourth plateau experience and something just made go through the rest of my stash about 8grams total in a half day of time. I have no idea why I did such a stupid thing but I blew past any experienced user has reported similarly. What I saw, wow.

Yeah I dont want anyone to get the wrong impression and go out and take 2g they could fuck themselves up royally, Ive answered PMs about this and just wrote this to help someone try it for the first time. I was just seeing if anyone here was experienced with it:



MINN/PHILLYGAME SUX SO I DECIDED TO WRITE THIS TO YOU, HOPE IT HELPS IF YOU DECIDE TO BE A PSYCHONAUT AND EXPLORE THE COSMOS LOL!!
Ok since its legal you can buy it anytime, the best way is to buy online the pure powder from a research chemical website. Youll have to search for one b/c the one I use NOW requires a lab # now so its kinda like searching for a roid source, just search for it on the web I just havent bought any since last summer in bulk and dont have any current source. This is much cheaper than buying at a pharmacy especially if you use it daily like I did, but you must have an accurate scale b/c a few hundred mg can make a huge difference in your experience, in fact its almost completely different from one plateau to another, so accuracy is important in the beginning of use. I started using it as an appetite suppressant at first and started at 250mg in one dose in the morning and then later in the day maybe 120mg sometimes a lil more and I could function just fine, just more mellow, no pain and energetic. I had a friend that had difficulty making words when speaking and I did too at a higher dose only in a narrow range of dose though. Once you past that dose it go aways and then later as you get used to taking it doesnt happen. Its pretty incredible that by upping a dose you can make it go away. Also a cool thing is muscles are starting to be pulled in special ways, later at higher plateau a force can grab you and move you like a puppet like a Greek God is showing you his strength, awesome but rare. Lots of cool things happen at higher doses completely different from lower doses. Thats where most people think its know big deal, but most who've dealt with psychelics regard DXM as the strongest by far, but nothing like lsd, shrooms. I hated those trips I did years ago experimenting with them, in fact I dont even like the word psychedelic to describe DXM b/c they usually scramble senses and thoughts, but DXM IMO enhances them. So people try it get mellow, no big deal gonna get beer next time, but to be a true psychonaut you have to get to higher plateaus.
So how do you get it today and how would you do your first trip. DXM is dextromethorphan and active ingredient in cough medicine. See alot of people who try this drink liquid cough syrup, but a person cant stomach very much and throw it up, taste nasty. So they get stuck in the first plateau and never explore the amazing experiences. I mean who wants to drink cough syrup and possibly throw up just to feel mellow (low dose), theyd rather smoke a blunt or drink alcohol. So in order to do it right you need to get tablets. Now the problem is I havent seen pure DXM w/o other drugs in them, some can be dangerous if your trying to take a high dose like tylenol in it so its important to read the label. The best buy is called: CORICIDIN cough and cold. It has to be cough and cold b/c it contains 30mg per tablet and the only other ingredient is an antihistamine. Other types have lower dose and other ingredients. It comes in 16tablets per box for a total of 480 mg plateau one dose, but I would recommend if you want higher plateau one experience is two buy two boxes.

Then take 8tabs to begin with (Ive taken four boxes to trip at one time so 8 tabs is not dangerous!), it takes about 1/2 hour to an hour (best to take on an empty stomach) for it to kick in so see how 8 gets you going for a first time. Then after an hour and half take 8 more to finish off the first box. This will get you feeling pretty good. If you have experience with drugs and alcohol and have a high tolerance you can just take the whole box to kick it off I just want to gradually get you feeling it. So after you take the first box, every hour afterwards take 4 tabs until you finish the second box, but thats up to you, a first time user may feel a lil overwhelmed thats why I suggest you ease into it with divided doses and you can quit w/o finishing the box. I think two boxes would give you an awesome experience in divided doses. This upper level first plateau, the high last about 6 hours with an afterglow of mellowness at the end.

TIPS FOR A GOOD TRIP.
1. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT KIND, I cant stress that enough. Coricidin cough and cold. Some places keep behind the pharmacy counter b/c underage kids shoplift them, but if your over 18 no probs getting two boxes

2. YOU ARE BREATHING remember that, that is the only thing that bothered me a coupla times, Im like am I breathing LOL! Oh yeah I am. But that happened to me in high school when I tried pot. Youre not going to have any problems with 960mg, I like to start out with 1500mg at once and then add as I go like above until I reach higher plateaus. I think one time I took about 8grams one time in divided doses in 1/2 day, thats way past sigma plateau. Long story about that one.

3. REMEMBER THIS IS A DELUSION: This is mainly for higher dose trips, but if youre feeling overwhelmed which is unlikely just remember to think yourself out of it. Which leads me to what if you just feel like its too much, I doubt, but everyone is different leads me to the next tip.

4. BUY CIGARETTES: Nicotine stops DXM cold.

5. SET UP A GOOD ENVIRONMENT AND PLAN TO STAY THERE FOR THE DURATION, NEVER DRIVE IF YOURE TRIPPING:
a. Since audio sensation is one of the best parts plan out some mellow music, a lil club music with strong base will literally make your body move in certain ways to each frequency you hear thats why its great to dance to and I dont dance normally. But new age music helps you relax more and concentrate on the imagery you might have. Thats what I recommend, but its up to you. It doesnt really matter too much. Fast paced music you become more physical as your body responds to audio pace and mellow music allows you to just trip balls.
b. I liked to have mat on the floor b/c physical forces will start to tug on you and a newbie might fall down not common, but it also allows you to do yoga like exercises that increase significantly the enjoyment. Again I dont dance, listen to new age music, do yoga, take drugs, drink and along time since I cycled and prolly wont ever again cuz I dont need to. But Ive found this enhanced the experienced significantly, some kids take it in a park and hang out, what a waste of an experience and money. What enjoyment is that just being outside, a campfire and boombox camping is completely different story. So set up a place to do yoga to just sprawl out.
c. Turn your TV on no volume to pure static and have a comfortable chair or couch within a coupla feet. This is a must to really enjoy!!!! Have the music playing. Staring at the static stimulates the DXM in your mind and makes you enter an euphoric relaxed state. What do I mean? At first youll see static, but just relax your eyes and stare at the screen, soon patterns will form, keep staring and youll see spinning patterns, then the patterns grow towards you in 3D. This is so amazing to optimize level one. After a lil while try to stare at the tv with your eyes open your eyes will water and the image will blur and enhance your experience I have 65" tv so really close the room expands into a cathredal like size. Also another thing to do is after your eyes water slowly lean forward and place your face directly on the screen. Youll see the electrons hitting the screen and soon the screen will move behind your eyes, you are now glimpsing into the wave world, but just a tiny taste. This of course depends on how high you are. If youre brave and arent worried about being overwhelmed like I am not, Then you might try 1 box to start, 8 tabs after an hour and 8 tabs after another hour and a half. This increases the amount in your system rather the divided dose I recommended to begin. I just dont know you except from the board and I dont want to give you bad advice. You may alternate between this and yoga and even dancing if you like, but I think that would distract too much.
d. turn off the phone for awhile you experience difficulty talking on the phone, just a weird thing, your mind is working and you feel normal, in control relaxed of course, the words are there, but they just dont come out right. Its quite funny I dont why this is b/c it only happens on the phone for the most part.

6. ENJOY! IF YOU FOLLOW THESE TIPS YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR FIRST PSYCHONAUT MISSION: Ease into the plateaus over time, it'll make more sense as you gain knowledge from the wave reality and then you may even speak to the gods or believe you are LOL! Real or Delusion, cant prove either I just know as a nonspiritual person to begin with I found it very spiritually eyeopening!!

7. Let me know if you decide to do it and what you experienced I can help interpret what youve seen and explain it so you can move up the plateaus faster to pure nirvana. Just drive to the pharmacy right now and get your first experience out of the way afterall, the philly/Min game sux thats why I have time to write this, I planned my day around football dammit!
 
spongebob said:
i dont think i would like it. i love rollin and am dying to find some G but cant. can you help?

Sorry Im straight as an arrow these days, dont even drink anymore. I dont even remember most of my sources for things and through away everything Ive collected over the years. Never really used the stash of roids I had, dont need any more muscle but I think I like the excitement of sending an order to Thailand for paper products and getting a small airmail envelope from Britain or sending money orders to Israel or using fake names. All so cloak and dagger, it was fun. But those days are long gone. Sorry no sources here :rolleyes:
 
I've taken around 750 mg @ bodyweight 205 so I'm not sure which plateau I was at, prolly 1 or 2. It was weird. Fun, but weird.

Motor skills were royally fucked. I was walking around like johnny depp in Fear and Loathing
 
ChewYxRage said:
I've taken around 750 mg @ bodyweight 205 so I'm not sure which plateau I was at, prolly 1 or 2. It was weird. Fun, but weird.

Motor skills were royally fucked. I was walking around like johnny depp in Fear and Loathing

Yeah prolly real close to high end of 1 and low of 2.
I can picture it now hahahaha! Walking like frankenstein. Oddly Ive found that different frequencies of sound will stimulate different motor functions actually pulling your body to mild contortions I dont know why, soothing music should help or the relaxation technique in front of the static Tv will help you regain motor control. For a good trip you should have your living setup so you either go from the floor to the chair without much walking until youre an experienced user. Then you can dance, dance, dance. I shite you not, I started to dance incredibly well and Ive always sucked, its how your body responds to the audio frequency, its like you have esp on what note will come next and you can well I can explain it.

And I posted an extraction technique to help purify DXM from coricidin cough and cold of the antihistamine in it. Makes it safer if youre the rare individual that susceptible to it.
 
I guess I should actually post on this thread too just to be safe.

BACKGROUND: Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide (hereafter refered to as
DXM HBr) is a common over-the-counter antitussive (cough supressant)
which replaced codeine in the early 1960's because of concerns over
abuse of cough syrups by down and out junkies. However, DXM HBr was
later discovered to have recreational effects, albeit ones not as
universally enjoyable as codeine and other opiates. It is a member
of the drug class dissassociative anaesthetics, and has psychedelic
effects similar to Ketamine ("Special K") or Phenylcyclidine (PCP).
The most common venue for recreational DXM abuse is the drinking of
cough syrup, which many people find extremely unpleasant. Until
recently, Drixoral CoughCaps, which contained nothing but DXM HBr
(30mg) per tablet, were widely availible and the best source of
recreational DXM around. They were taken off the market, allegedly
because of poor sales, but probably because of abuse. A new product,
Coricidin Cough & Cold, appeared on the market. Coricidin Cough &
Cold (CC&C) contains, in each tablet, 30mg DXM HBr and 4mg of the
antihistamine chloropheniramine maleate (CPM). Coricidin Cough &
Cold tablets became popular recreationally, as they are much
easier to take than cough syrup. However, overdosage of CPM (on
the order of anywhere from 12-300mgs) can cause severe anticholigenic
side effects in susceptable persons, and there *HAVE* been confirmed
deaths due to it's use.
OBJECTIVE: To, given a supply of Coricidin Cough & Cold (30mg DXM
HBr, 4mg CPM), yield a portion of usable DXM HBr reasonably equal
to the amount in the pills, discarding all or effectively all CPM.

- MATERIALS -
Cold water
Coricidin Cough & Cold pills
Stirring instrument
Crushing instrument (a heavy book or board works fine, if you
have a sturdy plate to collect the powder in)
Fine-grained cloth for extraction (test it out with flour)
Petroleum Ether (optional -- for creating a more refined
product)
Gelcaps (optional -- for consuming product in a way that
won't make your stomach turn)

- PROCEDURE -

(1) Obtain a sizable quantity of Coricidin Cough & Cold pills.
Note that some 1-10% of the DXM HBr in question will be lost
in the process of the extraction of the CPM, (varying with
the amount of water and the skill of the operator), so
adjust your amounts accordingly. For 1050mg DXM 35 Coricidin pills would be
needed. 10% of
1050 is 105, so use (rounding down) an additional 3 pills,
yielding an extraction ranging from 945mg to 1039mg DXM.
ed.

(2) Place the pills flat (i.e. not on top of one another) on
a wide, sturdy plate (the large rectangular ones you get
at a cafeteria are perfect) and use a board, book, other
plate, or some other heavy instrument to crush them into
a very fine powder. Make sure that there are NO large
particles of pill left, only very fine powder.

(3) Collect all the powder, and place it at the bottom of a
flask or (for the equipment-impaired) a glass. Pour in
enough cold water to cover over the pwoder several times
over -- the more water, the more perfect of a CPM
extraction you get, but also you will loose more DXM
in the process.

(4) Stir the water slowly until you get bored (a blender on
a *VERY* slow setting might work, and a blender doesn't
get bored), and let sit for a few hours.

(5) Discard the water. This is not easy, as the powder will
have the annoying tendancy to go with the water, and
is far too small to be strained off. Evaporation will
*NOT* work, as the CPM will be released back into the
powder mix. You need a very fine grain of cloth to do
this (you can test it first with flour ... see if the
flour passes through when you pour water over it ...
most garment cloth is okay).

(6) The remaining powder should be DXM HBr, dyes, bindings,
and other shit. Removing dyes and bindings can be easily
done with petroleum ether, but for most purposes it
isn't really important. Fill gel caps and swallow or
take in a different method.

- CHEMCIAL BACKGROUND -

Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide is around 1.5% soluble
in water. Chloropheniramine Maleate is very soluble
in water. Most dyes and binders are soluble in ether.
DXM ain't. 'Nuff said.



-======================= [ Comment ] =======================-
(the following is not the author's words, just a revision)

Solubility for DXM HBr in water is 1.5g/100mL at 25 C

That means for every 100ml of water at room temperature, 1.5g of DXM HBr will
dissolve in it.
 
Sweet. Good info

Yeah I've taken the caps before when I did 750 mg

Before that I drank an 8 ounce bottles of robo - that wasen't too fun. Threw up after about an hour but was tripping balls after that
 
ChewYxRage said:
Sweet. Good info

Yeah I've taken the caps before when I did 750 mg

Before that I drank an 8 ounce bottles of robo - that wasen't too fun. Threw up after about an hour but was tripping balls after that

Yeah now times that by just over ten and you have my max overdose. I was in another reality, universe, something. It was like I was commanded by greater power to finish off what I had. Words cannot describe what I saw and my body was doing all these strange tribal like movements in pattern like a raindance ritual to control the surroundings of the universe and I had control over myself. It was like I was caught in the grip of a powerful god and I was being like a marionette on strings. Well I soon found myself in the hospital diagnosed I found out in deep psychosis, but I could still see into this reality, but was completely disassociated from it. I could still communicate some of the messages being given to me and was commanded to refuse the thorazine they were going to give me. I somehow was supposed to see it through, I was adamant about that. Now I had experienced travelling to parallel universes, talked to what seemed to be beings made of frequencies instead of particles and they were amazed at my presence there. I still had rational thought, decision making, everything as if I was not tripping. I had also had the outside forces act on me before at fourth plateau users describe when high dosing on previous occassions, I thought. But this the weird thing time was altering and people were moving as if in a movie where they slowmotion and then speed up fast forward, everything was perfectly timed. Hands of clocked to movements the turning of faces in unison. Then they slowed down so much that they would stretch as if gravity itself was affected. Time dilation all coinciding together in one grand pattern. I went around the cosmos, through great clusters of astronomic occurence I could float by different galaxies. See what happens when we die, where we go, the meaning of life, all my questions were answered. I was in Nirvana. Absolute harmony with everything, it was so peaceful, so much more... I was like that until the normal length of a trip lasts and then I was perfectly normal. Everyone in the hospital was shocked, they were going to commit me. But when the social worker came in I was lucid but still with an afterglow effect common with coming down of high plateau trips. I was basically back to normal and just went home it was just about morning by that time. I havent heard of anyone taking that much DXM ever in my research since then. I never felt in danger or that I might die, nope just content with the knowledge that if youre going to do that much and live to tell about it, thats the way to do it, although I,myself did not make the decision to finish off my DXM that I had. Man, it was incredible experience. Now that was a trip LOL!! Reality was back to normal. No effects whatsover psychologically. I havent done in awhile and I feel and think for the most part just like I did before ever heard of DXM. The nectar of The Gods. I thought thats what the substance must be. OF course, Im not talking about cough syrup that shit is so nasty and the trick is too keep it down long enough for the DXM to be absorbed then puke up that shit. I would definitely not recommend doing 8000 mgs of DXM, but I think that higher plateaus are safe and very spiritual, I never was more science oriented, but now I have peace in a weird way.

DId you take the bottle of Robo at the same time as 750mgs or just a different trip. 750mgs for an average sized individual would put you at high level one plateau. (the ratings of DXM trips on third plateau.org linked to through dextroverse site). The plateaus are 1, 2, 3, 4 and sigma. All calculated by dose/kg on the discussion boards and FAQ section. Are you going to try to get to any higher plateaus fellow psychonaut LOL!?
You'll have amazing, unreal experiences. :rainbow: :rainbow:
 
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Taken from third plateau web site:
This is just a partial part of the faq section:

Many users have reported experiences very similar to "out of body" and "near death" experiences. In such cases, many report that they have contacted other beings, whose reaction to the user is usually somewhere between curiosity and amusement. *insert from Brothabill: in my first experience reaching this level they seemed surprised and definitely curous how a corporeal (having a living body made of a matter) could reach their domain. Iwas from the particle world and they were in the wave universe made of frequencies similar to thoughts about light acting as both a wave and a particle for those who know chem and physics...They seemed to want to teach and ask questions like a visitor to a friendly isolated culture. SO hard to describe this experience and what its like, I can only to describe as visiting some place exotic and meeting highly intelligent superior beings, OK bak to my cut and paste * Contact with "superior being(s)" has also been reported, sometimes as a raw force, sometimes personified in some way. In the reports given to me, the "superior being" image is more often female than male.

Delusions can become fairly involved at this plateau; the crucial factor seems to be whether or not the individual realizes that the belief or thought is drug-induced. Some people, especially those more experienced at this level, have reported that although they were aware that their thoughts were delusional, they didn't really care at the time. In general these delusions are fairly harmless (e.g., "I am a flower in the middle of a field").

Typically an individual in this plateau won't be moving at all, which can be frightening to observers. In many ways this state resembles dreaming. If someone in this plateau does attempt to move, his or her attendants should be very sure that he or she is conscious of these actions, and not responding to a delusional environment.

Somewhat surprisingly, many cognitive abilities are still intact. Basic computational skills and long-term memory recall do not seem to be particularly affected. It is also possible for the "body" (actually body and some parts of the mind) to undergo fairly complex tasks while the conscious mind is dissociated.

One individual wrote the following of the fourth plateau trip, and I think it is a good explanation both of the trip and of its possible origins:

I've come to the conclusion that DXM is almost unique in it's ability to create a truly "alien" experience - one in which major aspects of one's humanity can become entirely irrelevant. Most obviously, one's body can be left behind; even forgotten. The experience of becoming or encountering bizarre life-forms seems at least somewhat common, as are weird, horizonless landscapes or space-scapes. I think alot of this "alieness" comes from having so many of one's ties to the familiar severed. When your body is gone, your mind loses its sense of how "big" or how "small" you are in relation to your surroundings. Hence hallucinations of huge things like galaxies, or of being as large as a mountain, as small as an atom, etc. I think the brain also misses subtle clues like the sensation of breathing, blood flowing through the veins, etc. - things which help remind you that you're human. And at some point, even your memories of the familiar may be suppressed.






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5.9 Plateau Sigma

A few people have independently contacted me about an additional plateau -- one reached not by increasing the dosage but by prolonging the experience. I searched for some time for a name before settling on "Plateau Sigma", both because it seems to be related to sigma activity (see Section 10.2) and because it occurs as one sums up small doses (sigma being the mathematical symbol for summation). This summation may lead to a strong potentiation of the psychotomimetic effects of DXM (227). Over half the people who had a Plateau Sigma experience have said it was extremely unpleasant and that they would never repeat it.

The most commonly reported dosage regimen for Plateau Sigma is given below. However, before giving it, I warn you strongly against making this sort of attempt. DXM at high dosages is probably hard both on the brain and the body, and extending the experience is likely to increase the chance for dangerous side effects. Furthermore, one must be experienced enough with DXM, with the psychedelic experience in general, and with one's own mind, to be able to understand the experience. Everyone who has reported a successful experience with this dosage regimen has been at least 23 years of age. While I do not doubt that some younger people may be capable of having a good experience at this plateau, most seem to be unable to understand it and unable to control it, and there may be a real danger of psychotic breaks. Finally, the experience is in some ways acutely uncomfortable, as one's contact with inner and outer reality seems to break down entirely.

Combining suggestions from others I have come up with the following dosage regimen. Start relatively early in the day (the experience degrades if one is too fatigued), at about 6 to 10 hours after awakening. It helps tremendously if one is in good physical shape and not under emotional stress. Take a low second plateau dose. In three hours (or about 1 hour after the peak), take a second low plateau dose. At three more hours (or, again, 1 hour after second peak) take a high second plateau or low third plateau dose. After coming down from the third plateau, instead of going back to the second plateau and down to baseline, you may be left in Plateau Sigma. Drugs which inhibit cytochrome P450-2D6 seem to enhance the duration and intensity of the experience. Nicotine is reported to inhibit it, and may even prevent it entirely.

At Plateau Sigma interesting things happen to reality. Some have reported vivid, entirely realistic contacts with alien entities, spirits, gods and goddesses. Unlike the fourth plateau, these contacts often take place with eyes open, immersed in everyday reality. Although none of the people who reported these experiences to me had bad trips, most related that the experiences were so real that they felt they easily could have.

Vision suffers a curious change, seeming to consist of well-processed but highly strobed images; so strong is the effect that it seems as if one is looking at the world under a fast strobe light. The eyes don't seem to track in synch with the inner 3D model of the world, so that when one looks to one side or another, the world lurches back and forth for a moment. Interestingly, it almost seems as if one is looking at the world from an inner vision with the eyes closed (see Section 5.11).

Finally, thoughts can be totally deranged. Connections between entirely unrelated ideas form, causality goes out to lunch, and one's personality seems pretty much dissolved into the universe. Expect to hear a lot of voices; some people find themselves totally obedient to them. There seems to be a "tireless" quality to the experience, as if one does not feel either fatigue or emotion directly, but only receives information from the inner voices ("sit down now, you're tired"). There are interesting comparisons both to accounts of acute schizophrenia and to Jaynes' postulated bicameral mind (350).
 
BrothaBill said:
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OBJECTIVE: To, given a supply of Coricidin Cough & Cold (30mg DXM
HBr, 4mg CPM), yield a portion of usable DXM HBr reasonably equal
to the amount in the pills, discarding all or effectively all CPM.

- MATERIALS -
Cold water
Coricidin Cough & Cold pills
Stirring instrument
Crushing instrument (a heavy book or board works fine, if you
have a sturdy plate to collect the powder in)
Fine-grained cloth for extraction (test it out with flour)
Petroleum Ether (optional -- for creating a more refined
product)
Gelcaps (optional -- for consuming product in a way that
won't make your stomach turn)

- PROCEDURE -

(1) Obtain a ...

Sweet. We're a rec drug board now. That's totally cool. So, obviously, I can post my personal procedure on how to make methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine, right?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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Sweet. We're a rec drug board now. That's totally cool. So, obviously, I can post my personal procedure on how to make methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine, right?

YUP! Brothabill and the brothahood is taking the board over. Soon all will listen to our gospel. Im going to share how to cross over to realities and receive infinite knowledge and enlightment. Were gonna form the largest religious following the world has ever seen. Were gonna have religious ceremonies like the indians and their peyote. First step for the psychonauts is too reach the plateau where they speak to the gods and feel the forces. We are the creators of our realities able to change it to our will. Ive been talking that these could be delusions these beings, theyre not. Theyre there and I can make you a believer if you follow my wisdom. Brothabill is back!!! Next lesson is DMT after DXM then DET !! BELIEVE!!!

DMT:Since it is not taken by mouth, the effects come on suddenly and can be overwhelming. The term "mind blowing" might have been invented for this drug. The experience was described by Alan Watts as like "being fired out of the nozzle of an atomic cannon" (Leary 1968a p.215). Thoughts and visions crowd in at great speed; a sense of leaving or transcending time and a feeling that objects have lost all form and dissolved into a play of vibrations are characteristic. The effect can be like instant transportation to another universe for a timeless sojourn.
 
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I drank one bottle, I think it was 400MG but not sure.

Also note Delsym cough syrup is Dextromethorphan Polistirex, lasts 12 hours inseat of 4-6 :)
 
Lumberg said:
I drank one bottle, I think it was 400MG but not sure.

Also note Delsym cough syrup is Dextromethorphan Polistirex, lasts 12 hours inseat of 4-6 :)

Just now you did LOL?? And the Delsym has much better taste like waxy orange flavor no cough syrup taste whatsoever and no puking at all b/c of the polystyrex chemical structure, Ive done that before as a base in the beginning after I peak on higher plateau you have an awesome afterglow and the long acting delsym allows for a much better afterglow which is arguably equally as cool. So relaxing! just mellow yellow. Hey Lumberg didnt we meet one time in Longview wa one time a year or two or ago?
 
Hey, have at it. No difference to me, I've spent plenty of time at Bluelight and The Hive. This board's been through several phases of "no rec drug threads allowed", but if we're not in one of those phases, post away! I do enjoy reading about this kind of material.

And without arguing semantics, I hope you don't think that DXM isn't considered a rec drug -- caffeine and nicotine jokes aside, of course.
 
The spirit molecule, DMT the next journey for the psychonauts after DXM Plateaus!!

Unseen Worlds
This chapter establishes the "landscape" for the encounters with "beings" that follow in the next two chapters. It begins to raise some of the difficult questions regarding the bases for these remarkably powerful, "more real than real" experiences of being "somewhere else." Simple images of DNA and microscopic biological structures progressed to whirling numbers and hieroglyphics. Boxes turned into rooms, rooms into apartments, apartments into circus-like carnival settings. Some entered deep space and viewed strange distant planets. This chapter closes with Sean's transport onto the porch of a Mexican desert home, in which a normal everyday family scene emerged.

Contact Through the Veil: 1
Reports of "entity" contact are found even in early 1950's human DMT research. Included here are excerpts from volunteers' sessions in which entity contact was a significant aspect of a particular DMT session. Lucas approached a landing bay on a space station, accompanied by humanoid automatons. Chris met three reptilian creatures who opened up their bodies, showing him the nature of their reproductive processes. Jeremiah landed in a nursery where alien caretakers looked after him, but only in a most casual manner. He then experienced a session in which his brain was reprogrammed by a "master technician" sitting at a computer console. Dmitri found himself tested, probed, and examined by "aliens" in a high technology laboratory, and made a deeply sensual connection with one in particular, "who seemed in charge." Ben also found himself on an examination table; however, the beings appeared to him as Saguaro cactus creatures, one of whom implanted a probe under his skin. When Ben came to, he was convinced that this implant was a tracking device and had no doubt about its real, but intangible, presence. I address volunteers' and my difficulties making sense of the unexpectedly high frequency of contact with beings. Biological, psychological, or symbolic explanations generally fell flat, so I compromised by responding to volunteers' stories with the thought-experiment: reacting to them "as if they were true." BELIEVE!!! :rainbow:
 
this looks interesting. Do any cough syruprs have staight DXM in them?
 
Lestat said:
this looks interesting. Do any cough syruprs have staight DXM in them?

More than interesting, mind blowing once you hit higher plateaus!!!
So do you want to join the League of Psychonauts Lestat?? Exploring distant realms?

I believe robitussin maximum strength, a coupla bottles should do. I have no problems with them although some people cant keep it down. Just need to have it in your stomach long enough for the DXM to absorb so if you are prone to nausea then get the chair in front of the static tv, have a bowl ready just in case and gulp them down, its a good Idea to have something to chase it down with afterwards b/c it tastes like well cough syrup. Now just relax, taken on an empty stomach it takes about 45 min to an hour to start, so just meditate and relax so you dont get sick. I never had a problem with keeping it down, but you know yourself better than I.
Also Delsym is pure DXM, but its not DXM HBr its DXM polystyrate which lasts 12 hours this doesnt taste bad at all bland orange taste and is released over 12 hours so it doesnt help much with the trip per se, but greatly enhances ones afterglow, the serene time after the trip is over. So drinking a large bottle at the beginning will make it your trip and afterglow much better but it costs about 11$ but well worth it. IT makes afterglow time Nirvana. You may want to wait awhile to see if you keep the tussin down, if you hurl Delsym up with the tussin it doesnt absorb immediately like DXM HBr does so you waste it. You may want to wait about an hour when you first start noticing the trip beginning to take it so you know your not going to upchuck the tussin so you dont hurl up 11$. Why would you want syrup nasty, stick with the Coricidin its very, very, very rare that it causes a problem.


BELIEVE!!!

THE LEAGUE OF PSYCHONAUTS IS FORMING!!
 
"At Plateau Sigma interesting things happen to reality. Some have reported vivid, entirely realistic contacts with alien entities, spirits, gods and goddesses. Unlike the fourth plateau, these contacts often take place with eyes open, immersed in everyday reality. Although none of the people who reported these experiences to me had bad trips, most related that the experiences were so real that they felt they easily could have"

And when they say immersed in everyday reality it truly is mindbending. Eyes wide open, awake travelling through the universe. I once had an experience where I felt basically normal and it felt like something was grabbing and physically moving me by the shoulders, put me in a chair, grapped my arm and forced my hand to draw the most amazing drawings. Im talking perfect circles perfect straight lines, I just let my arm go limp and some force controlled it. I drew prolly over a hundred pieces of paper. Towards the end I could control hand speed and still the drawings were perfect and I was going at an incredible speed when finished with a piece of paper something grabbed my hand like I was a child being grabbed by a mother and turning the papers. I never strayed off a piece of paper. I cant even describe some of the realities Ive travelled to except for infinite knowledge, gods and the end of the universe I called the omega plateau (plateaus are used to diffferentiate psychedelic experiences and was limited to three for the longest time with DXM they added the fourth plateau and sigma plateau and then whereever I went all while seeminly wide awake and lucid in this reality). When I had the drawing experience I tried to break free of the controlling force but by standing up and walking away, but I was pulled back like a rag doll to keep drawing. Although I never got into drugs even in college when my football roomate and friends smoked blunts all the time I stayed away. But Ive tried everything, everything and nothing like it. NOTHING like it, I thinkone everyone should go through the dxm experience if theyre not religious or spiritual like me, a scientist mind, before they die, itll change youre life and the way you view things. Truly amazing experiences, third eye kind of stuff, out of body travelling up the most exquisite waves of frequency and having beings communicate incredible knowledge as a gift if you make it that far on your journey. Life and our place in the universe, all questions being answered. And Im not a deadhead or even close. Mind bending and you dont go crazy at all~ to someone whose never used it, well, they think youre crazy if you describe the places you go(like alot will think when they read this). But just amazing experience. The physical control of your body is the weirdest thing one can experience its happen several times to me. I used it everyday at lower doses for a long time while dieting, the most effective appetite suppressant and painkiller Ive ever used.

If you want to experience the best effect study classic philosphers and their views on existence. I think Descartes and his thoughts are the most interesting for the journey if you decide to take it. The best use Ive found of being a psych research assistant as an undergrad. I knew college was good for something. LOL!

BELIEVE!!

THE LEAGUE OF PSYCHONAUTS IS FORMING!
 
Damn Brothabill is all about it! lol

I'm too drunk to read all this info now but fo' sure tomarrow I'll be hittin' it up :)
 
ChewYxRage said:
Damn Brothabill is all about it! lol

I'm too drunk to read all this info now but fo' sure tomarrow I'll be hittin' it up :)

CHEWYXRAGE! You'd make the perfect lead psychonaut. Enter a brave new world of reason and reality!! Since you have high level one experience youre the most qualified candidate Ive seen. I want someone to travel outside of the particle world and into the wave world and I WANT you man!!!(not in a gay way you understand that right)
When I took the 8000mg trip I learned so much, but I need someone to be a brave new psychonaut and take the lead.
I can teach you how to get you there at a low dose 1500mg and meet the beings made of waves not particles, they want to meet others.


SO heres how to get there on high level 2 low 3plateau dose say around 1500mg so double youre previous dosages basically. The key to optimize level 1 is to overstimulate neural activity hence staring at the static tv or scribbling madly on a piece of paper while staring at the lines until the paper is basically filled in. Weird result of that. But the key to travle out of the particle world is low neural stimulation.
So darken your bedroom as much as possible, take the dose and assume a position flat on your back with your left knee pointed out and left foot flat but comfortable on your right calf(long explanation I wont get into) and relax and make yourself comfortable with a blanket and pillow with your head turned to the left, arms to the side. You'll start to feel a frequencey wobble, you'll know what I mean, this is the beginning of an awesome journey!
Now outside forces will move you and just let it move as it will direct you just go totally limp and dont fight the movements this will feel as if as if hands of magnetic grip contorting you. Thats it basically and youll have the most amazing journey. Just let everything go and the particle world will dissolve away youll have an out of body experience and your body will dissolve away. Like the first astronaut to the moon it takes some courage, but well worth the knowledge reward. Are you bold enough? :rainbow: :rainbow:
 
BrothaBill said:
More than interesting, mind blowing once you hit higher plateaus!!!
So do you want to join the League of Psychonauts Lestat?? Exploring distant realms?



THE LEAGUE OF PSYCHONAUTS IS FORMING!!

i say we team the Associates up with THE LEAGUE PSYCHONAUTS, the results would be staggering and possibilities limitless.
 
spongebob said:
i say we team the Associates up with THE LEAGUE PSYCHONAUTS, the results would be staggering and possibilities limitless.
Im in, but the league needs membership, perhaps the Associates can begin their training as an elite force of psychonauts. :evil: A delta force exploring the regions of time and space as they interact. I have alot of knowledge bestowed to me from my high plateau journies and pass that wisdom on so they can move up the plateaus in short order. The knowledge gained is mindblowing I shite you not. Like it was said mindblowing, like being shot out of the nozzle to an atomic cannon. Lots of shortcuts to higher dimensions and theyre simple but highly rewarding you in Spongebob?? OH yes, the possibilites are infinite!! :rainbow:


BELIEVE!!
THE ASSOCIATES AN ELITE FORCE OF PSYCHONAUTS
 
BrothaBill said:
Im in, but the league needs membership, perhaps the Associates can begin their training as an elite force of psychonauts. :evil: A delta force exploring the regions of time and space as they interact. I have alot of knowledge bestowed to me from my high plateau journies and pass that wisdom on so they can move up the plateaus in short order. The knowledge gained is mindblowing I shite you not. Like it was said mindblowing, like being shot out of the nozzle to an atomic cannon. Lots of shortcuts to higher dimensions and theyre simple but highly rewarding you in Spongebob?? OH yes, the possibilites are infinite!! :rainbow:


BELIEVE!!
THE ASSOCIATES AN ELITE FORCE OF PSYCHONAUTS

i like it already.

i take it that since this is legally obtained and is just overdoses of couph syrup that it doesnt show up as anything other than that on drugsceens?
 
spongebob said:
i like it already.

i take it that since this is legally obtained and is just overdoses of couph syrup that it doesnt show up as anything other than that on drugsceens?

Yeah, no legal risk and quite frankly far better experience of any drug Ive tried and Ive tried MANY LOL!
And youre DXM doesnt show up on urine tests, and no hangover whatsoever and it only last 6 hours so you can do it on a night before work. Hell if you live close to home like 20 minutes take it as youre leaving work and the youre at home for only 10-40 minutes before you begin,just dont get stuck in traffic with high plateau dose, thats happened to me LOL, I was like keep it together man, it actually isnt too hard. Explore the cosmos and return back to this reality in time for cornflakes, a late movie and then bedtime. The next day you wont notice any hangover whatsoever! The spirit chemical has many advantages.


BELIEVE!!!
THE LEAGUE OF PSYCHONAUTS NEEDS YOU!!
JOIN NOW!
 
SuperShredder said:
So dxm is kinda like pcp and ketamine?

I didnt read the whole thread but what would be good for a first timer (cough syrup)?



If you get nausea then I suggest the pills. The cough syrup made me yak all over the place
 
Ish said:
wtf are you babbling about?

DXM is the drug commonly found in cough syrups. If you've ever heard of a "Robo-High", that's a DXM trip. It's widely talked about, yet once tried, most people don't like the drug's effects. In my opinion, it's truly a love-it or hate-it drug.

DMT is debatably one of the strongest knock-you-on-your-ass drugs available. It lasts for only a few minutes, but it is harkened as a life-changing journey transversing the cosmos. It's a relatively new chemical, so it doesn't have the history or user base of many other rec drugs.

They're both not very popular drugs, save experimentalists and a small group of pshycedelic users who like the drugs. DXM, like most other drugs, is not safe at multi-gram doses, and DMT is one of those drugs you don't do alone, because you will quite possible *literally* fall on your ass (or head), hurting yourself.
 
SuperShredder said:
So dxm is kinda like pcp and ketamine?

I didnt read the whole thread but what would be good for a first timer (cough syrup)?
Certain comparisons have been made to the out of body experience and realistic near death experience, ie peace and a tunnel of light, of special K. But the Dxm experience is far better and the main advantage is that you can control your psychonaut mission with dosage, so its highly predictable in one sense. Oh and you wont end up wearing an orange jumpsuit like if youre caught with pcp or special K. Thats a huge advantage and the trips are much more focused and you have seemingly intact mental processes and are in control as opposed to those. Those I know whove done special K say that if done right, the DXM experience much superior, cheaper and is preferable.
For a beginner, setup a room as I described, music and a static tv, and mat on the floor, some pieces of paper of paper to scribble on. And youll be set.

Just drink a bottle of robitussin max strength 8oz and just relax or if youre bigger than average guy down another half bottle, have bowl ready just in case you cant keep it down some have a problem with that, trick is to keep it down if you get nauseuos for the DXM to absorb so if you feel like you cant keep it down overstimulate the gag reflex by pinching your upper lip real hard. I prefer the coricidin, I dont extract the cpm expecially at level 1 plateua dosees b/c of the few millions that prolly taken coricidin cold and cough for tripping only a handful of problems, less than risk of taking aspirin LOL! Theyd pull from the market if it their was a high risk. Id taken 1 box of coricidin 16tabs 480mg to start your mission and then about a half hour after you notice the first effects take the second box.
Mission vs. just getting high. Just getting high is pointless body high with some visuals like you move your eyes and the outer vision of the world takes a moment to catch up.
A mission is performing a set of tasks to complete to unlock knowledge. You have to go through certain movements of your body for instance to gain knowledge. So thats why if you take 2boxes 960mgs (Ive take over 8000mgs, I highly discourage that LOL!) make sure you have a mat on the floor (or a blanket) to go through this task. Outside forces will move your body to the necessary positions, so just go limp and dont fight the forces. Once youre moved by the forces necessary, youll know when you just do. Just lie there and soak in the knowledge you just unlocked. One movement that I liked was the rotation of the neck circularwise. I feel this has a connection to the mind body spirit of yogis.
Another task, is scribbling on a piece of paper quickly while staring intensly at the lines as they fill in the paper. This fills up the visual cortex and is necessary task to complete to meet the beings of frequency realm, those lines youll revisit at a higher dose in memory recall as they string out into a new dimension as you leave the particle world. Too long to explain. This also has an interesting quality is that if you do it long enough at some point you'll feel as if youve moved into superhuman, lighter and faster than ever. It feels like walking through a door and its instant, vision will become lighter. Amazing body experience and again a necessary task.
At 960mgs you should have no probs with the tv task and getting the first taste of the wave universe. I cant describe only that you have your face pressed up against the static tv and as the screen passes behind your eyes youll be on the outer looking in, youll know exactly what I mean when it happens.


BELIEVE!!
BE A BOLD EXPLORER LIKE THE FIRST ASTRONAUTS!
JOIN THE LEAGUE OF PSYCHONAUTS TODAY!
THE LEAGUE NEEDS YOU!
 
samoth said:
DXM is the drug commonly found in cough syrups. If you've ever heard of a "Robo-High", that's a DXM trip. It's widely talked about, yet once tried, most people don't like the drug's effects. In my opinion, it's truly a love-it or hate-it drug.

DMT is debatably one of the strongest knock-you-on-your-ass drugs available. It lasts for only a few minutes, but it is harkened as a life-changing journey transversing the cosmos. It's a relatively new chemical, so it doesn't have the history or user base of many other rec drugs.

They're both not very popular drugs, save experimentalists and a small group of pshycedelic users who like the drugs. DXM, like most other drugs, is not safe at multi-gram doses, and DMT is one of those drugs you don't do alone, because you will quite possible *literally* fall on your ass (or head), hurting yourself.

I agree with the love it or hate it notion, but I think the hate it crowd is mainly referring to the nausea that can come on from drinking cough syrup. And if they take it to just get high it can seem pointless as they fight the experience, but with proper guidance Ive found virtually no one didnt like the effects, but I have met some mainly b/c of the difficulty in motor movement. Its not like getting high and going about the day as if youre high, youll find yourself struggling to get things done. This is more of a time of meditation not activity so how you approach it can make all the difference. One should setup the room as I mentioned and stay there, dont go walking around and dont leave the house. A novice can sometimes feel physical forces push them around LOL! And you might be on the street walking when youre prevented from taking another step like youre leg just became part of the earth LOL! Stay home, do it right. :rainbow: :rainbow: Lack of motor control can be a disturbing experience if not aware that that is possible, especially if someone decides to trip in a public place. Most enjoy as they flow with motion when done right and at home on a mat like doing yoga, the mind body connection is greatly enhanced.
 
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i would perhaps give it a try,but definetly not by taking coricidin.


"Coricidin is very dangerous. Coricidin has caused at least 7 known deaths,and abuse routinely has resulted in hospitalization, often with the person in critical condition. Check out the Dextromethorphan (DXM) Dangers section for more info about Coricidin and it's dangers"
 
SuperShredder said:
Sounds fun ,ill give it a try sometime. What do u mean by lack of motor control?

Most dont experience it at a low dose, but at higher levels of Plateaus many can feel like a god or outside force has grabbed them and moved their body likely they/it wants you to move in certain movement. Its not scary at all, its actually exhilarating and seems magical. For example a grip was directing my arm want time and the force seemed like a magnetic field grip around my hand if I tried to resist the force it felt like when you try to force to opposite ends of a magnet together, theres nothing there, but there is so felt like a magnetic hand was guiding mine as I drew the images on the paper.
I can only assume that the lack of motor control is the first experience of this force, but not as intense and some try to fight the force and struggle to move against it and are frustrated that the body wont move in the direction they want. Usually its just a difficulty they notice. If you relax on a yoga mat at high level 1 dose low level 2 plateau dose, the force will actually move you into yoga like positions and a sense of pleasure is gained once the position is reached. You let your body go limp and allow your body to be guided. Most feel that this is a gift given to them and are being instructed into perfect positions to elicit mind/body harmony by a superior being. This yoga like experience is very euphoric. But in an environment that is not conducive to these movements ie a public place one will struggle against this force and the higher the dose the harder it is to fight this force. If not aware of this instead of positive experience some will find it frightening that they cant move, as youre dose gets higher you start to dissassociate from your body itself the beginning of an out of body experience and the sense that your blood isnt flowing or that youre still breathing as your body awareness fades away, again if not aware of this as a positive experience it can be a negative if it happens at the same time you cant move correctly.
Lots of things happen that a novice who takes DXM for the first time w/o knowing its possible experience can find the body control alarming if theyre thinking its just like taking a hit a pot or similar. Most at a low dose describe the common mellowness as a combination feeling of being stoned mixed with alcohol. And thats what most will experience, but if you become knowledgeable about DXM this wont alarm you whatsoever b/c you know whats happening, its like any new situation one faces, being prepared as to what is happening prevents feeling overwhelmed. Again this is a positive experience if you setup an environment in order to just relax. Basically stay at home and setup the living room for the experience and go with the flow. Mellow music like new age allows for the spiritual meditation to take place. Just dont fight the experience its meant to happen that way and is desirable as it is unlike any other chemical experience that can be obtained by any other substance.
This thread contains most of the things one will experience so just by reading it youre already prepared. And most wont experience these at a low dose, thats why people take a higher dose to experience these amazing results. The more experienced user isnt bothered at all by the outside force and feel it very mystical and feel its higher power and its very spiritually. I was amazed at the realness of this force and remember this isnt an intoxicant per se like alcohol where decision making goes out the window. You maintain most mental capacities, long term memories, decision making. Its like youre in a magical environment and observing and analyzing this new realm with an internal eye.


BELIEVE!!
:rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:
 
NJjuice22 said:
i would perhaps give it a try,but definetly not by taking coricidin.


"Coricidin is very dangerous. Coricidin has caused at least 7 known deaths,and abuse routinely has resulted in hospitalization, often with the person in critical condition. Check out the Dextromethorphan (DXM) Dangers section for more info about Coricidin and it's dangers"

Just follow the extraction process I described if youre concerned about that but hundreds of thousands users have used coricidin for tripping and only a small handful of deaths have been reported and is unclear if this due to potentian with other drugs consumed.
Its very simple like like crushing coffee beans mixing it with water and straining through a hanes undershirt. The antihistamine responisible dissolves in water and will pass through the fabric the DXM solute will remain on the fabric as it does not dissolve as easily. Simple.

If you cant handle the nausea of cough syrup its not difficult to extract as well:

Agent Lemon extraction technique for Robitussin cough syrup.
Simplified Acid/Base Extraction of DXM

Materials needed:

Clear Ammonia (non-sudsy)
Naphtha (Ronsonol, Zippo, or Red Devil Cigarette Lighter Fluid)
Gallon-size Ziploc Baggies
Cough syrup containing only DXM or DXM/Guaifenesin
Scissors
Pin or needle
A 2-liter jug or gallon jug with lid
Microwaveable bowl or glass pan for stove-boiling
Lemon Juice (fresh squeezed, or ReaLemon, or one of those plastic lemons you
find in the produce section) or Countrytime lemonade mix with SUGAR, not
aspartame.
Toothbrush and toothpaste

Procedure:

Determine how much cough syrup to buy. Assume you will lose about 10% of
the DXM. Wal-Mart sells 8 oz (236 ml) Equate Tussin DM for $2.49, which is the best
deal I've found. They also sell everything else you need, so its the ideal
place to obtain materials. There are 472mg of DXM in one 8oz (236 ml) bottle of
Tussin DM.

Do not extract more DXM than you will be taking that day unless you want to
trip on DXO. The product will gradually turn into DXO if left overnight or
for a period of many hours. You might like the DXO trip, but I don't.

Pour cough syrup into your gallon jug or 2-liter bottle. Add an equal amount of
ammonia. Shake for 30 seconds. Add Naphtha equivalent to about 10% of the
volume of cough syrup/ammonia. These measurements don't have to be exact,
the only thing I would advise is not to use too much ammonia (no more than
an equal amount to the cough syrup) if you are using a syrup with
guaifenesin. An excess of ammonia will turn the guaifenesin into a slightly
oily layer, which will take a few hours to separate, rather than a few
minutes. It sucks when this happens.

Shake your ammonia/naphtha/DXM for at least 4-5 minutes. Shaking it longer
won't hurt. Each molecule of DXM must touch ammonia, then naphtha, in order
to be extracted. Each that doesn't will be lost.

Pour the mixture into a Ziploc baggie and hang it up on a nail by one of the
top corners. You will see your mixture begin to separate, and should be
fully separated in just a couple of minutes. Ammonia/guaifenesin/coloring
will be on bottom, and a clear layer of naphtha containing your DXM freebase on
top. You should see a perfectly clear line of separation without bubbles.
If there is a bubbly layer in the middle after 5 minutes, you've gotten oily
guaifenesin and you'll just have to wait it out. I've noticed this happening
more with certain brands of ammonia, but the Wal-Mart Equate brand ammonia
always works great for me.

Rinse out your shaker jug very well, you're going to need it again in a
minute.

When you have a clear separation, you're going to snip a SMALL hole in the
bottom corner of the baggie, and drain out all the red stuff on the bottom.
Be sure to do this in a well-ventilated area, outside is best. Otherwise go
into a bathroom and drain it down the sink, holding the baggie close to the
drain, with the tap running. As you see the naphtha/DXM layer getting close
to the hole, get your jug ready. Let a tiny bit of the naphtha out the hole,
to be SURE you're not getting any ammonia in your final product, then drain
the rest into your jug.

If you are using a colored 2-liter bottle, I'd suggest draining the naphtha
into a clear or white bowl first. Inspect it for any reddish bubbles. If
you're using a gallon water jug, you'll be able to spot them in the jug. If
you see any, it means you got ammonia in your product. AMMONIA IS TOXIC.
You must remove it before proceeding with the next step. Do this by pouring
your naphtha into another baggie, hold by a top corner. You'll see the red
drops settle to the bottom corner. Prick the corner with a pin and let the
ammonia drop out. Then return the product to your cleanly rinsed jug.

At this point you can either evaporate the naphtha using a blow-dryer, in a
glass pan or bowl to produce DXM freebase powder, or proceed with the
instructions below to produce DXM citrate, which I recommend over the
freebase form. Neither form contains bromine, making both a much healthier
form of DXM than DXM HBR.

Add an amount of lemon juice equal to the amount of naphtha, or 3 oz (89 ml),
whichever is more. If you are using freshly squeezed, strain the pulp.
Shake the lemon juice/naphtha for 5 minutes or so. Pour into a Ziploc
baggie. Hang by a corner. This will take a while to separate, at least an
hour.

**Alternative** Use Countrytime lemonade mix, the kind WITH sugar, not
aspartame. The first 3 ingredients will be sugar, fructose, citric acid.
This method works fine, and separates instantly, cutting your extraction
time from over an hour to about 20 minutes. Use about 3 tablespoons (43 ml) of mix
to 4 oz (118 ml) of water, a much stronger mixture than if you were actually making
lemonade to drink. The problem with this method is that if you don't use a
strong enough mixture, you will recover a lot less DXM than with lemon juice.
Don't worry about it being too strong to drink. It tastes pretty bad, but
its actually a lot better than the lemon juice product. Either way, you're
only drinking a couple of ounces, so it beats chugging syrup any day. Be sure
not to get the Countrytime with aspartame. If you are not used to consuming
aspartame, using this much at once will most certainly cause a nasty
headache, which will ruin your trip. The headache lasts for 2-3 days. If
you do regularly consume aspartame, read http://www.dorway.com to save your brain
and health while there may still be time.

When your product has separated, your DXM is now in the bottom layer, snip
the corner of the baggie and allow your product to drain into a microwave
safe bowl or glass pan for boiling on the stove. Don't lose too much
product worrying about the naphtha layer getting into it. Try not to get any
naphtha, but if you end up with a drop or two in there don't worry. When you
boil your final product, the naphtha will immediately rise to the top and
evaporate cleanly.

Boil the lemon juice/DXM for about 5 minutes, in the microwave or on the
stovetop. Be careful microwaving, as the product tends to boil up and over
like noodles on a stove do. Make sure your bowl is large enough that you
don't lose half your lemon juice over the side. You'll be extremely pissed
if this happens. I suggest a bowl larger then your normal sized cereal
bowl, or a very tall microwaveable glass.

Chill the lemon juice, there's less of a gag reflex that way. Have
toothbrush and toothpaste handy, this stuff tastes like ass. Effects kick
in in about 30 minutes, peak around 2-2.5 hours. Some feel this is a far
cleaner and more spiritual trip than using syrup or powder.
 
You are making it waaay too complicated.

One bottle of DXM-only syrup is good wnough 4 your first expwerience.

Second they make it in pill form now--back when I did it you had to find the right syrup.

Anyway yeah when I did it I was like, wow I have found the secret to the universe.

I couldn't stop talking about it. But I never quite got that feeling back.
 
Lumberg said:
You are making it waaay too complicated.

One bottle of DXM-only syrup is good wnough 4 your first expwerience.

Second they make it in pill form now--back when I did it you had to find the right syrup.

Anyway yeah when I did it I was like, wow I have found the secret to the universe.

I couldn't stop talking about it. But I never quite got that feeling back.



You should try some shrooms then. Or some acid.
 
Tried em both dude. I'm not some noob.

I'm over it. I have more lasting things that I like to build on. Accomplishments are what give me pleasure now.
 
acid is fun.. i remember i took two hits one night started out at cocoa beach somehow ended up on my roof back in orlando wearing boxers staring into this tree that was morphing into all kinds of shit..
 
if anyone is seriously looking to buy pure dxm powder by the gram i can give you a site just pm me.. 10 grams for 40 bucks.. and i've bought from em before 100% legit and secure
 
where does it say that? i think smoking helps you to hallucinate more
 
BrothaBill said:
TIPS FOR A GOOD TRIP.
1. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT KIND, I cant stress that enough. Coricidin cough and cold. Some places keep behind the pharmacy counter b/c underage kids shoplift them, but if your over 18 no probs getting two boxes

2. YOU ARE BREATHING remember that, that is the only thing that bothered me a coupla times, Im like am I breathing LOL! Oh yeah I am. But that happened to me in high school when I tried pot. Youre not going to have any problems with 960mg, I like to start out with 1500mg at once and then add as I go like above until I reach higher plateaus. I think one time I took about 8grams one time in divided doses in 1/2 day, thats way past sigma plateau. Long story about that one.

3. REMEMBER THIS IS A DELUSION: This is mainly for higher dose trips, but if youre feeling overwhelmed which is unlikely just remember to think yourself out of it. Which leads me to what if you just feel like its too much, I doubt, but everyone is different leads me to the next tip.

4. BUY CIGARETTES: Nicotine stops DXM cold.


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get some of those eye vision glasses they create pictures on the lenses ill shit
 
Lumberg said:
You are making it waaay too complicated.

One bottle of DXM-only syrup is good wnough 4 your first expwerience.

Second they make it in pill form now--back when I did it you had to find the right syrup.

Anyway yeah when I did it I was like, wow I have found the secret to the universe.

I couldn't stop talking about it. But I never quite got that feeling back.


Yeah I agree I dont extract either b/c I have strong stomach but if someone just keeps throwing up Id spend the extra time to purify it, doesnt take long and isnt too difficult thats why I posted it.

Secret to the universe eh?? Pretty amazing isnt it, have you tried upping your dose to go to another plateau? Like level 2 or 3? I found that after going to higher levels that the level 1 dose was nothing to me. But I can still go amazing journies at higher doses.
 
Chaos_Mage said:
DXM causes brain lesions. Not knowledge of esoteric secrets.

BELIEVE!!! Brotha Chaos, dont be party pooping on my thread! LOL!
 
ChewYxRage said:
What's this about nicotine stopping DXM cold? I smoked cigs while taking DXM and it seemed fine

Id have to look where that was, thats what they said to do if someone felt overwhelmed, that it stopped it cold. Hell at least it gives them something to focus until they calm down. Its also supposed to prevent you from entering the sigma plateau after the divided high dose regimen. I dont know I dont smoke.
 
Phaded said:
if anyone is seriously looking to buy pure dxm powder by the gram i can give you a site just pm me.. 10 grams for 40 bucks.. and i've bought from em before 100% legit and secure

Sweet! That solves the extraction problem! FINALLY, the real reason why Ive been keeping this thread going has arrived haahahaaa! Thats a good price the place I used beginning of last year was 20g for 100$ but couldnt get it anymore come summatime! Im going to pm you later fo sho!


THE KNOWLEDGE HAS ARRIVED!!
 
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ChewYxRage said:
Sweet! Someone hook it up with some brain lesions.

Make my on a double!! last spring I took high dose dxm regimen on a Saturday hell last spring I was level 2 pretty much 24/7, still after glowing. Then on Sunday I took more high dose and a hit of lsd and then drove my friend to Eugene Or from Portland and got 2 oz of shrooms and I ate way too many of them. Was out of this world but some time early morning I left from this lil motel my friend directed me to and I drove, Houses were turning then disappearing streets moving from place to place like I was being transported to different locations. I only made it coupla blocks and pulled into parking lot and tried to walk back to the motel. Not there, It took me forever to find my car, slept in it. For like 3 hours I searched for that farging hotel the next day. Why you might ask? B/c I left all the shrooms and I forgot to mention the 1/8 hoping I could beat the housekeeper. Finally just gave up nothing legal happened like I feared. Only did that once and it had been years since I shrooms and lsd like since high school. Just wanted to hit the frontal lobe with everything I could get my hands on. Now that was another amazing journey I might say, too much to explain, but amazing. Never again will I touch and illegal drug again, my whole career flashed before my eyes when I couldnt find that damn hotel!LOL!
 
Chaos_Mage said:
anyone ever try nutmeg? That shit fucks you up proper.

Is there a Nutmeg Information site or discussion board? LOL, no seriously I heard that before whats the experience like?
 
BrothaBill said:
Is there a Nutmeg Information site or discussion board? LOL, no seriously I heard that before whats the experience like?

No website that I know of.

But after you get past the initial "I think I'm gonna die" phase, you get really messed up... like being drunk and high on weed x 2. But I felt like shit for some days afterward.
 
Chaos_Mage said:
No website that I know of.

But after you get past the initial "I think I'm gonna die" phase, you get really messed up... like being drunk and high on weed x 2. But I felt like shit for some days afterward.

NIIIICE! I'll stick with the brain lesions thankya very much! LOL!


BELIEVE!!
 
BrothaBill said:
NIIIICE! I'll stick with the brain lesions thankya very much! LOL!


BELIEVE!!


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Chaos_Mage said:


UMMMM! Brothachaos thanks for the link but I know what the Robitussin box looks like! LOL! Was that the right link you meant?
 
are conventionally halugenioncs, old favorits like liquid lsd or a 'scleanor, just not good enough for you guys? :shakes fist:
 
Gambino said:
are conventionally halugenioncs, old favorits like liquid lsd or a 'scleanor, just not good enough for you guys? :shakes fist:

Illegal, no need to risk it! Plus lsd lets neurochemical from one sense pathway activate others, all differentian of sense become mingled. Sounds become visuals etc... just jumbled senses. DXM is totally different experience :shakes handcuffs: :rainbow:
 
BrothaBill said:
Sweet! That solves the extraction problem! FINALLY, the real reason why Ive been keeping this thread going has arrived haahahaaa! Thats a good price the place I used beginning of last year was 20g for 100$ but couldnt get it anymore come summatime! Im going to pm you later fo sho!


THE KNOWLEDGE HAS ARRIVED!!



Hell yeah, I've already placed my order. Need to get some caps now
 
ChewYxRage said:
Hell yeah, I've already placed my order. Need to get some caps now

HAHAHAHA! Thank the Gods, I was running out of things to write about waiting for that info! LOL! Great prices too, now all we need is some gelcaps and sell fake ectasy at the local Junior Highs pay for a new car, what do ya think 20$ a gelcap LOL! No one please take that seriously LOL! :evil: :evil:

You gotta promise to tell us your experiences! Actually you dont need caps you can make DXM alcohol, I saw a recipe for it, DXM beer too.
 
BrothaBill said:
HAHAHAHA! Thank the Gods, I was running out of things to write about waiting for that info! LOL! Great prices too, now all we need is some gelcaps and sell fake ectasy at the local Junior Highs pay for a new car, what do ya think 20$ a gelcap LOL! No one please take that seriously LOL! :evil: :evil:

You gotta promise to tell us your experiences! Actually you dont need caps you can make DXM alcohol, I saw a recipe for it, DXM beer too.



DXM booze, lol. Yea I'll prolly try to hit level 2 this next time. I'll take 1500 mg


Should be interesting, Ima try that TV and music thing. Last time I did it I just sat around and watched movies and played video games and shit.
 
Gambino said:
are conventionally halugenioncs, old favorits like liquid lsd or a 'scleanor, just not good enough for you guys? :shakes fist:




Uh, if there still liquid LSD around then hook a cracka up
 
ChewYxRage said:
DXM booze, lol. Yea I'll prolly try to hit level 2 this next time. I'll take 1500 mg


Should be interesting, Ima try that TV and music thing. Last time I did it I just sat around and watched movies and played video games and shit.

Oh yeah try it its amazing, 1500mg will get you going pretty good, hell Id shoot for contacting the frequency beings, they like visitors, they seem so real and interact with you. The static TV thing is a shortcut I devised to help with neural overstimulation makes a more euphoric mission for around 1000mgs and less but still will work, but with 1500mg Id try the opposite with no stimulation. Like I said earlier, darken bedroom, lay flat on your back with left leg bent and place on right calf turn head left and get comfortable and blanket over you the like so youre body is as comfortable as possible. Body position to affect the realm you visit, at least in my experience, go limp,. Then youll feel what can only be described as a the frequency wobble, you'll know when you feel it, an then an outside force may manipulate youre body into different yoga like positions like your body position is unlocking something. I always start out with 1500mgs to kick in then build from there to higher plateaus. OH and Dxm dissolves in alcohol, caps take up to an hour to dissolve. Search for psychedelic booze for full recipe to help with calculating dose per amount of booze:
OK. Now you’ve got your DXM HBr powder and vodka, you are ready to make Psychedelic Booze. The most precise way is the following:


Dump the DXM HBr powder in a clean metric calibrated measuring container large enough to hold the full amount you will make.


Add vodka until it reaches the mark that is equal to V in the above equations.


Keep stirring until the DXM HBr is completely dissolved. FREE HINT: It’ll dissolve faster if the vodka is warm, so placing the vodka in the microwave for a short time to warm it up will speed the process.


Once the DXM HBr has completely dissolved in the vodka, CONGRATULATIONS! You have made your first batch of Psychedelic Booze. CAUTION: If for some reason all the DXM HBr refuses to dissolve in the solution (you’ll know because it settles to the bottom), you have done something wrong. If this happens, warm the solution in a microwave, then stir or shake, and let cool down. If DXM HBr is still not dissolved or precipitates out, then something is amiss. Either you used too much DXM, or too little vodka. If this happens, you’ll need to add more vodka until it totally dissolves (or, filter it out)
 
spongebob said:
are you serious? because actually the nutmeg seed can kill you.
Hahaha no wonder he said: "once you get past the think Im going to die stage" and that felt he like shit for several days afterwards.
He poisoned himself LOL!
 
you know brotha bill im curious now about this DXM. i think i might try it but im gonna start at platue .5

i like the idea of it being legal and undetectable. thats why i want G. undetectable.

P.S. have you been up all night?
 
spongebob said:
you know brotha bill im curious now about this DXM. i think i might try it but im gonna start at platue .5

i like the idea of it being legal and undetectable. thats why i want G. undetectable.

P.S. have you been up all night?

Yeah, I think youll enjoy it more than G. in fact, if you like G. you'll prolly really like DXM. Around 500mgs should be a good a starting point, youll feel mellow with no visuals. Its sorta a narcotic like effect as its classified as an anaesthetic agent. Hard to classify though. Robotussin max strength 8oz is pure Dextromethorphan just read the labels and then do the math as to how much is close to 500mgs. But you could do the 500mgs and as you are a coupla hours into take the rest and prolong the mellowness without getting higher.
Yeah, I consider the most pleasurable chemical one can consume, and its cheap, and I can buy it at the store, and its legal, and it doesnt show up in urine tests...I guess if I had to really like one drug, I picked the right one.

Ive been up since Saturday morning.
 
spongebob said:
saturday morning??? damn you on some tweek?

j/k i know you dont touch anything else.

No I started this new diet 1000cal/day 90% fat 10% protein and fat literally melts off you like a pound or more a day. But its making me incredibly restless, didnt sleep Sat night, stayed up till 7am this morning and got like 2 hours sleep this morning, still cant go to sleep.

The diet works amazingly, its actually how I started using DXM as an appetite suppressent b/c Im basically fasting. Last year about this time you know to get back shape after the holidays. Well I never felt this shitty on the diet guess it was the DXM. I was using it all day long for a long time as an appetite suppressant and the mellow body high you get, had no idea how the higher doses can affect you. But I was feeling good at high, took a little more, then a little more, then I was like OMG! I just figured out the secret to the Universe. hahaha! Then I started my psychonaut adventures. Took it every day for months. I have alot of experience with it but havent done it in awhile, but if I keep feeling this shitty from this diet I think Im going to go get some.
 
iI have also hard about the brain leswions. Also heard that many depressives self-medicate with it. I think it works more like bill explained if you're depressed.

Also brobill I was in southern washington visiting an ex-gf maybe about 2 years ago, I think she lives in or near Kelso? PM me if this sounds familiar.
 
Be very careful with this stuff guys. DXM, along with other disassociatives is known to cause a phenomenon called Olney's lesions in your brain. I have been intrigued by DXM for a while but am too frightened of permanent damage to try it. If you do be aware of the potential consequences.

Info on Olney's lesions
 
bdog527 said:
Be very careful with this stuff guys. DXM, along with other disassociatives is known to cause a phenomenon called Olney's lesions in your brain. I have been intrigued by DXM for a while but am too frightened of permanent damage to try it. If you do be aware of the potential consequences.

Info on Olney's lesions

Oh My God! That was the worst junk science Ive seen in a long time. His conclusions are baseless, lots of inferences, neat sounding scientific pathways explained, etc... but really read it closely, its an opinion! He sure does dress up like it may be scientifically true, its his OWN hypothesis. I wrote one last week on metabolic pathways involved in diet on another chat and asked for feedback, Ive believed it to be absolutely but someone asked on little question that hypothesis I couldnt explain.T rueI was involved in psych research for a coupla years and you can not even come close to being able to make such claims. We worked for two years just correlating accepted tests and how they interact with each for ONE study. One cannot conclude from that that we get brain lesions, he even states this gem right in the middle as he telling us it happens. THAT NO OLNEY LESION HAS EVER BEEN FOUND IN HUMAN BRAINS. EVER. Im open to the fact that they may later to be discovered, but c'mon the evidence just aint there and anecdotal reports from users experienceing difficulties would never make anywhere near whats required to make such a claim. He runs fr. ask. questions section on that board so he is more likely to be asked about such things, so his sample is fucked from the beginning and he may only reinforce his own hypothesis by the way he interprets the user's question. Trying to justify his hypothesis. Thats why there are double blind studies done in science. The researcher and the subject do not know the answer just b/c of this. I could really rip this, but I dont care and I have gotten much sleep lately.
I dont have the answer, but so far I think the correct position is No one Knows!
I'll just take my dxm when I want to, comfortable in the fact that NO Olney lesion has ever been found in a human as he stated himself. In fact I bet his hypothesis on brain lesions spawned this whole brain lesion thing people talk about, thats a popular site in the DXM community.
 
Is it legal for me to walk down the street with a bag full of DXM capsules I made from products purchases over the internet?
 
Lumberg said:
iI have also hard about the brain leswions. Also heard that many depressives self-medicate with it. I think it works more like bill explained if you're depressed.

Also brobill I was in southern washington visiting an ex-gf maybe about 2 years ago, I think she lives in or near Kelso? PM me if this sounds familiar.
No just messing with ya, I did talk to you about it cuz I live in seattle and portland and have friends in Longview/kelso area. I think I asked if you were from around there and you replied and I quote: "Naw, sex with an ex" LOL! I was using a different handle though not sure which one. Maybe Luciasbrown, do you remember me posting with that handle?

Depressives are prone to self medicate, but with just about everything. I could see where low dose could be medicinal for depression as it gives you a sense of calmness. I was feeling pretty damn happy even at the dose I used for appetite suppressing alone on my diet. Alot of those descriptions were taking from info about the stages or plateaus and seems to be pretty reproducible based on dose/Kg. But who knows really. I know it works for me and people I know whove tried it.
 
ChewYxRage said:
Is it legal for me to walk down the street with a bag full of DXM capsules I made from products purchases over the internet?
I dont see why not, though Im not a lawyer. Cant sell them fo sho, but walking down the street, the cops cant do nothing to ya. They might stop and field test it, but once it doesnt turn up as an illegal drug on their lil kits, I dont think there is anything they can do. Could be vitamins or whatever. And its not classified illegal anywhere as far as I know.
 
Chaos_Mage said:
Dude, passengers on Max Planck's Train of Light need not sleep.

Throwing a baseball forward and watching it go back in time. Naw Id give anything for a full nights sleep about now. And Im no passenger on the train of light Chaos, Brothabill is the conductor LOL!! ALL ABOARD!! toot, toot!;)
 
Delinquent said:
how about if I have anxiety probs as that is the main reason I had to stop X and acid?

I would think of it more of an antianxiety effect, most users report the mellowness, its an anaesthetic after all. Audio senses are greatly enhanced and so you can have stimulation effect when listening to fast paced i.e. dance club so it can pass for X. Yeah, I had anxiety with both, hell even pot thats why Ive never really been into the scene.

Again most people feel calm, just start with 500mgs or less and you should be fine.
 
Yes it definitely helps anxiety.

Be careful though, I would treat it like nitrous or ecstacy. Not to be done too frequently. But it's worth a try. When the DXM starts to kick in you get a full body flush that borders on an itch, it's an allergic reaction. 4 some people this can be severe which is why you should have Benadryl handy. In most cases it passes within a few minutes, and that's the sign that the trip is starting.
 
Lumberg said:
Yes it definitely helps anxiety.

Be careful though, I would treat it like nitrous or ecstacy. Not to be done too frequently. But it's worth a try. When the DXM starts to kick in you get a full body flush that borders on an itch, it's an allergic reaction. 4 some people this can be severe which is why you should have Benadryl handy. In most cases it passes within a few minutes, and that's the sign that the trip is starting.



I've read that it's good to keep benadryl handy as well. I never had an allergic reaction but I used it anyway, towards the end of the trip I take one just so I'll be able to fall asleep at a decent hour.
 
BrothaBill said:
Throwing a baseball forward and watching it go back in time. Naw Id give anything for a full nights sleep about now. And Im no passenger on the train of light Chaos, Brothabill is the conductor LOL!! ALL ABOARD!! toot, toot!;)

you funny bastage!
 
Delinquent said:
how about if I have anxiety probs as that is the main reason I had to stop X and acid?

damn X never gave me anxiety, only when my source was out of town or some shit like that. haha.
 
Lumberg said:
Yes it definitely helps anxiety.

.

damn this is looking more and more like a miracle drug.

1. legal
2. cheap
3. not tested for
4. can walk around with pocket fulls
5. anti-anxiety.
6. no hangover
 
ChewYxRage said:
I've read that it's good to keep benadryl handy as well. I never had an allergic reaction but I used it anyway, towards the end of the trip I take one just so I'll be able to fall asleep at a decent hour.

No allergic reaction here. One time I got really itchy but that was when I had a full stomach and I seem to get a slight itch everyone once in a while when my stomach hasnt cleared, but for the most part no probs.
 
spongebob said:
damn this is looking more and more like a miracle drug.

1. legal
2. cheap
3. not tested for
4. can walk around with pocket fulls
5. anti-anxiety.
6. no hangover


LOL! Now thats what Ive been trying to tell y'all. The spirit chemical has so many uniques qualities to it from appetite suppressant, pain relief, antianxiety at low dose. Then you can go a lil higher dose like alcohol and pot high mixed together. Then a feeling of peace and tranquility and one with the universe if you go higher. Limitless journies. It seems to act like several different drugs at different levels so you can just choose your experience. Simple as pie!

And the hangover at higher doses is positive not negative. No hangover at low dose whatsoever. At higher dose is called an afterglow, like nirvana and highly desirable. You can function mentally perfectly but well I can describe it.
 
And talk about cheap you can order 10g online for only 40$ like youre buying a book from amazon. That simple takes a coupla minutes. Thats 20 500mg trips. About fiddy cents per experience. Adjust lower and its even cheaper. Cant beat thats cheaper than a can of beer. I used to drink like a fish, now I hate the stuff after DXM, why would I even bother with alcohol again and the health risks of alcohol consumption. Plus Ive done some real regrettable stuff with the poor decision making of alcohol. Not so with DXM, they seem to stay intact especially at low/mod doses. Hmm DXM, cure for alcoholism????LOL!
 
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