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I have a general question related to women who suffer from depression. I have been reading most of the threads that all of you ladies have been posting for some time now, on a wide variety of subjects.
It is my observation that all of you exude various combinations of intelligence, common sense, ambition, assertiveness, wit, empathy and humor.
Above all I am impressed with your dedication and focus regarding training and nutrition. All of you also express abundant self-confidence with respect to disregarding the stereotypes, societal notions, and downright beligerence towards women that train seriously with weights.
My first generic question is: Absent a genetic/diagnosed biological condition, or an recent temporal emotional trauma, what do you believe to be the cause of your depression ?
I tried to think about what existentially has changed in society or the lives of women in general that would cause such an increase in the use of anti-d's.
I'm 42, and I remember the crap my mother had to put up with as a professional women in the medical field dominated by men. She was told by her professors that women didn't belong in the sciences. She faced harrassment and a glass ceiling.
Birth control was limited until the late 60's, and abortion was a taboo. In short a woman didn't really have control of her body.
Women of color faced legal discrimination.
We are in the 21st century and while society still have some impediments that need to fall relative to women's issues, for all practical purposes over the last 40 years the prospects for women to control their bodies, their educations, their careers, their finances, and their lives in general have improved markedly.
What is it ? Has the problem always been there, but now it's accepted to talk about depression ? Am I overgeneralizing and each women's depression is her own and is no reflection on any purported imputation of cause that can be attributed to society.
Is it age/decade specific ? For example, I tell all the women that I know that are in there 20's that you couldn't pay me to be a women in her 20's, because most of the guys are emotionally arrested and are soley interested in getting laid.
I would sincerely appreciate any help you ladies could give me in answering these questions.
It is my observation that all of you exude various combinations of intelligence, common sense, ambition, assertiveness, wit, empathy and humor.
Above all I am impressed with your dedication and focus regarding training and nutrition. All of you also express abundant self-confidence with respect to disregarding the stereotypes, societal notions, and downright beligerence towards women that train seriously with weights.
My first generic question is: Absent a genetic/diagnosed biological condition, or an recent temporal emotional trauma, what do you believe to be the cause of your depression ?
I tried to think about what existentially has changed in society or the lives of women in general that would cause such an increase in the use of anti-d's.
I'm 42, and I remember the crap my mother had to put up with as a professional women in the medical field dominated by men. She was told by her professors that women didn't belong in the sciences. She faced harrassment and a glass ceiling.
Birth control was limited until the late 60's, and abortion was a taboo. In short a woman didn't really have control of her body.
Women of color faced legal discrimination.
We are in the 21st century and while society still have some impediments that need to fall relative to women's issues, for all practical purposes over the last 40 years the prospects for women to control their bodies, their educations, their careers, their finances, and their lives in general have improved markedly.
What is it ? Has the problem always been there, but now it's accepted to talk about depression ? Am I overgeneralizing and each women's depression is her own and is no reflection on any purported imputation of cause that can be attributed to society.
Is it age/decade specific ? For example, I tell all the women that I know that are in there 20's that you couldn't pay me to be a women in her 20's, because most of the guys are emotionally arrested and are soley interested in getting laid.
I would sincerely appreciate any help you ladies could give me in answering these questions.
crab3535,
That is a good question... I have often wondered what causes depression and if there is a higher rate now than years ago..
I think "maybe" people today are more prone to depression/anxiety because of modern lifestyles. I see people walking around will cell phones, pagers, computers etc... We do 10 things at once.. I don't think are bodies were really wired for all that constant stimulus. This may cause more depression and anxiety. It's your bodies way of saying heyyy!!
It would be interesting to find out.. Antidepressants are sure prescribed more today. I'm not sure that is always the answer if you are not willing to examine your lifestyle along with it..
That is a good question... I have often wondered what causes depression and if there is a higher rate now than years ago..
I think "maybe" people today are more prone to depression/anxiety because of modern lifestyles. I see people walking around will cell phones, pagers, computers etc... We do 10 things at once.. I don't think are bodies were really wired for all that constant stimulus. This may cause more depression and anxiety. It's your bodies way of saying heyyy!!
It would be interesting to find out.. Antidepressants are sure prescribed more today. I'm not sure that is always the answer if you are not willing to examine your lifestyle along with it..
There is not a doubt in my mind that I have a genetic predisposition to it. My grandmother used to "take to her bed" for weeks at a time. I myself was a bit surprised at the prevalence of it on the board until I thought about it and I believe that you have to be a bit obsessive/ compulsive to get into bodybuilding and stay with it. OCD sufferers are more prone to depression so the fact that most of the women here have dealt with it at one time or another is no surprising. I also think that with the choices that we have comes more stress and leads to more depression.
Anyway that's just my .02
Anyway that's just my .02
I think a lot of mental illness is genetic and finally people are feeling more comfortable seeking treatment. The psychiatric drugs available today are nothing short of miracle workers when administered correctly. Many are able to lead normal lives because of these drugs. But normal isn't good enough for some people.
We've become a hectic fast-paced society who wants a pill for every ill. Some normal people think they can be even better with a pill. Feeling stressed in a stressful environment is not mental illness, it is normal, much like many other "conditions" which could be cured by simple lifestyle changes. But some don't think they have time for lifestyle changes or therapy (or the HMO won't pay), so they demand a script for the latest drug, oftentimes which doesn't work and causes side effects due to improper diagnosis.
We've become a hectic fast-paced society who wants a pill for every ill. Some normal people think they can be even better with a pill. Feeling stressed in a stressful environment is not mental illness, it is normal, much like many other "conditions" which could be cured by simple lifestyle changes. But some don't think they have time for lifestyle changes or therapy (or the HMO won't pay), so they demand a script for the latest drug, oftentimes which doesn't work and causes side effects due to improper diagnosis.
FitFossil,
I completely agree with you. I think genetics plays a big part in depression/anxiety. If you are genetically prone for depression it is more likely to manifest because of your lifestyle.. I also think people's diets today influence the onset of depression.
People who are genetically prone to depression/anxiety are more likely to experience problems following surgery or childbirth. Everyone goes through depression- some people just can't snap out of it.
It's good that the stigma is going away. Depression/anxiety is nothing more than a physical illness with psychological symptoms.
I completely agree with you. I think genetics plays a big part in depression/anxiety. If you are genetically prone for depression it is more likely to manifest because of your lifestyle.. I also think people's diets today influence the onset of depression.
People who are genetically prone to depression/anxiety are more likely to experience problems following surgery or childbirth. Everyone goes through depression- some people just can't snap out of it.
It's good that the stigma is going away. Depression/anxiety is nothing more than a physical illness with psychological symptoms.
"Everyone goes through depression- some people just can't snap out of it. "
This is the bottom line. In a society where depression is now openly talked about, accepted and treated (compared to the not too distant past) it is very much easier for people to seek drug treatment, even if they would have (in the past) "snapped out of it" all by themselves given time. There is also no longer such strong pressure to recover quickly. We no longer live in conditions of moment to moment survival. Long term unipolar depression is a very real disease with a genetic component which has always been crippling to sufferers. But I think the majority of people on antidepressants today do not suffer from this type of depresssion. There are a lot of people who have just gotten the blues, are having trouble with sleep, food, work, money......and get put on anti-D's. It's a lot like most of the other diseases of modern society (obesity, heart disease, diabetes...) in that the gene pool has not changed dramatically, only the environment/lifestyle.
This is the bottom line. In a society where depression is now openly talked about, accepted and treated (compared to the not too distant past) it is very much easier for people to seek drug treatment, even if they would have (in the past) "snapped out of it" all by themselves given time. There is also no longer such strong pressure to recover quickly. We no longer live in conditions of moment to moment survival. Long term unipolar depression is a very real disease with a genetic component which has always been crippling to sufferers. But I think the majority of people on antidepressants today do not suffer from this type of depresssion. There are a lot of people who have just gotten the blues, are having trouble with sleep, food, work, money......and get put on anti-D's. It's a lot like most of the other diseases of modern society (obesity, heart disease, diabetes...) in that the gene pool has not changed dramatically, only the environment/lifestyle.
angel_eyes
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I know genetics plays some role, my mom was always bi-polar and believed people were out to get here, etc. She would go through major ups and downs.
I never had a problem, then symtoms gradually started building over 6 months or more that would not go away. Yes, I was under a huge amount of pressure at work, and home. Pushing myself constantly and spreading myself way too thin.
My depression was most likely brought on by a combination of many factors plus with my Thyroid being so low, that could have contributed as well. Hard to say.
I never had a problem, then symtoms gradually started building over 6 months or more that would not go away. Yes, I was under a huge amount of pressure at work, and home. Pushing myself constantly and spreading myself way too thin.
My depression was most likely brought on by a combination of many factors plus with my Thyroid being so low, that could have contributed as well. Hard to say.
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I agree w/ MS I think we all deal w/ depression at some point in our lives....everyone goes through stress and shit.....I personally think a healthy lifestyle and lifting Iron is a good medication for all of this....I personally have never taken any medications and I really don't plan on it..I have seen friends take them and it ends up causing other problems in the end..so I dont see the point...I think 90% of life is how you react to it..how you deal w/ it...some are more emotional than others.....I find my life really down in the dumps if my diet is not on and if I am not in the gym.....then I am tired...and down...But I also believe everyone deserves happiness and to go through life as happy as they can...and if that calls for taking something to help, then you should do it...but sometimes I think we look to medications and things to make ourselves feel better...when it starts with becomeing happy with ourselves and who we are....am I way off here....I will probably get my head bit off for this thread....just another perspective I guess....
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