Anavar virgin GTFIH

[Boomie]

Hello all

I am new here first post. I am very active on BB.com and have been doing the natty thing for years. Since everything is so don't ask over there I have been lurking here for several days. I love how everything is so out in the open. Anyway I will continue my activity here as well.

This would be my first cycle on anything besides creatine/ glutamine. I really want that hard look that seems to be only acheivable with the extras think andreia brazier eva andressa. I have a decent amount of mass, but still would like more in glutes and legs. I train six days a week. 1400-1500 cals cutting atm at least 140g protein carbs under 100g carbs at least 50g of fat. I always get so discouraged the amount of muscle lost after bulking during cut cycles.I also long for those deep cut abs that are never there despite how many bulk/cut cycles are . ran. Current lifts look like 150x1 bench 225 for reps squat 205 for reps deadlift.

Anyhow down to the nitty gritty. I'm well into my cut and only have about six weeks left to get to 135 ish currently 145 at 5'4". Avi pic is current 2 weeks ago. I am considering running anavar for the remainder of my cut and okay with extending it out to 8 weeks. Then maintain for 4 weeks or so bulk 5-6 mos then cut again. Do you think it would be beneficial to bring it to the table now, or just wait until next cut season to use it? If wait what would you ladies recommend for the bulking season, I have seen that anavar is usually only used for cutting. Thanks gals, let me know if you need any additional info, I really appreciate your time and input.

 

[Boomie]

BUMP-- no takers?

 

[Boomie]

Help Please?

Hm I wonder what it is. I felt like I was pretty up front and honest about genuinely needing help and where I'm at. Guess I'll delete the post in the moning if no one has responded. Was origially turned on to this site by how infomative and open everyone was here reading all the other ladies posts and responses. Didn't think mine would be any different. Thanks for reading if anyone did...

Maybe this will help you all see that I am serious with diet and training and have been for a long time...

 

[overgreen]

I normally look here but don't comment as I'm a guy but don't get discouraged that easily. Keep bumping it here but move this to the anabolic section and ask for help. The women's forum isn't as active and the female forum. This is a great place but you've got to be patient. If there's anything else I can help you with message me and I'll try to point you in the right direction.

 

[caligirl85]

Probably just because it's a long weekend!

This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth as I know not everyone will agree with me. Var is often used for cutting but it's a common misconception among women that it's a "fat burner" and should only be used for cutting. In reality, var is a male hormone and it's primary role would be to preserve muscle on a low cal diet (ie: the experienced competitor cutting for a show) or for building muscle/ aiding with recovery. Some of the more experienced women would only use var on a cut but I would argue they use much more advanced levels and types of AAS and have a far higher tolerance to sides, then a first time user.

If you want to see the best results, I'd use it when you're bulking. You will see greater gains during your bulk cycle. It'd be a short cycle so you can see how you respond and decide from there but it will give you more of what you're looking for. I'd keep the diet clean and keep it within a few hundred above maintenance, maybe even cycling calories up from the cut to start. I think you will be surprised at the results and you can cut slower and longer, if you need to. Even just maintain, rather then the bb.com's traditional long bulks and cuts.

Hope that helps a bit. Welcome aboard!

 

[psizzle_8]

Chill girl. We always respond. lol

 

[caligirl85]

Chill girl. We always respond. lol

lol...I know for me, I had to take advantage of the last long weekend of the summer!

 

[overgreen]

lol...I know for me, I had to take advantage of the last long weekend of the summer!

I knew that's what the deal was, y'all always respond to something.

 

[Boomie]

I normally look here but don't comment as I'm a guy but don't get discouraged that easily. Keep bumping it here but move this to the anabolic section and ask for help. The women's forum isn't as active and the female forum. This is a great place but you've got to be patient. If there's anything else I can help you with message me and I'll try to point you in the right direction.

Thanks, I just felt like my post didn't have merit enough to get a response when I was super srs and know what I'm doing nutrition and training wise. I'm used to the quick responses on other forum sites, guess this one runs a little slower. If you don't get a response in like 8 hours it's usually dead. My bad.

 

[Boomie]

Probably just because it's a long weekend!

This is just my opinion so take it for what it's worth as I know not everyone will agree with me. Var is often used for cutting but it's a common misconception among women that it's a "fat burner" and should only be used for cutting. In reality, var is a male hormone and it's primary role would be to preserve muscle on a low cal diet (ie: the experienced competitor cutting for a show) or for building muscle/ aiding with recovery. Some of the more experienced women would only use var on a cut but I would argue they use much more advanced levels and types of AAS and have a far higher tolerance to sides, then a first time user.

If you want to see the best results, I'd use it when you're bulking. You will see greater gains during your bulk cycle. It'd be a short cycle so you can see how you respond and decide from there but it will give you more of what you're looking for. I'd keep the diet clean and keep it within a few hundred above maintenance, maybe even cycling calories up from the cut to start. I think you will be surprised at the results and you can cut slower and longer, if you need to. Even just maintain, rather then the bb.com's traditional long bulks and cuts.

Hope that helps a bit. Welcome aboard!

Thanks. I know it's not a fat burner but preserves what muscle you have built while cutting. Making it beneficial for a cut so you don't lose (even partially) what you spent all that time building. Short cycle 6-8 weeks? I have seen some women comment on not using var for bulking becasue there are better options for a bulk cycle than var. As to what those are I am curious which was part of my original post. I do like the idea of running it first since it is milder and have no experience with AAS first hand. So maybe do a 6-8 week cycle during bulking season and run it again for my cut?

 

[caligirl85]

Thanks. I know it's not a fat burner but preserves what muscle you have built while cutting. Making it beneficial for a cut so you don't lose (even partially) what you spent all that time building. Short cycle 6-8 weeks? I have seen some women comment on not using var for bulking becasue there are better options for a bulk cycle than var. As to what those are I am curious which was part of my original post. I do like the idea of running it first since it is milder and have no experience with AAS first hand. So maybe do a 6-8 week cycle during bulking season and run it again for my cut?

You could totally run it at a low dose to end out your cut and would still see some results, I'm sure. 6-8 weeks would be a good starting place. Negative sides don't always show up until about the 6 week mark.

It's really all individual in terms of what your tolerance for sides is and what your goals are. I have great success with var for bulking and have seen good gains at 10 mgs/ day at about a 10-12 week cycle. I, personally, have low tolerance for sides and through some stupid trial and error have some permanent ones, so I always put it out there, that I'm the conservative user of the board! lol If you start out with the one that is the lowest risk and start the dose low, you can see how you respond, test the sides and build up from there.

As a newbie, I'd start with var. When deciding what else to venture on with, you'll want to ask yourself, oral vs injectibles? what is your overall goal of the cycle? and side effect tolerance...there are some great women here who have a lot of experience with a variety of the AAS and they can chime in too as it relates to some of the other options.

 

[psizzle_8]

Var is usually the starter drug...

As far as gaining mass. It took me six years to get all the mass I have...roids alone won't do it...when I was my biggest last year, yes I was on a cycle, but I learned the science of timing my carbs perfectly around my workouts. That's key. Keepin a low carb diet year round isn't what you do when you're wanting to gain. Keep that in mind.

 

[Boomie]

Gotcha! Thanks ladies. I am in it for the long haul and know it will take some time. The muscle I do have has taken time. Obviously I wanna be smart about it so it's gonna be a long process. Under a 100 carbs with the majority of those being ramp up two hours to 45 min before lifting and then 45 min post is what I do when I cut. Hard to fit much more carbs in there low cal while still hitting protein requirements. However bulking I'll have alot more cals to play with more carbs. Really appreciate the time. I'm gonna do some more looking around here to see where everything goes and plan to be more active.

 

[slat1]

Im a guy so take this as you will:

-You look great judging by your picture. Do you want to risk sides? How much muscle are sides worth? Its always a risk/reward thing.

-If you are determined to use AAS and var in particular I would start at 5mgs. If you don't get results from that your meal plan is off and you will be able to get great results just from fixing that. Then when that is fixed 5mgs should set it off.

*Side note: a close friend of mine is an IFBB pro bber. She has never done more than 10mgs of var and a little clen. She stresses its all in your meal plan and your routine.

-I always try to stress to women to start low. You can always increase the dose later if you really want too. The fact is you can run multiple cycles at 5mgs or what ever you choose and still get results. I feel its better to start low and see how you respond than start high (usually because some guy at the gym said to) and regret it the rest of your life.

Best of luck!

*Side note: 5mgs of var is strong enough to shut down a man's natural testosterone production.

 

[Boomie]

Thanks slat. I really want that hard look especially in the abs legs that I have only seen from women using aas. I was going to start at 5 and stay there for at least 3 weeks and only bump if I felt necessary. I feel my training and diet are pretty spot on I don't know how much more improving I could do there and maintain a sane lifestyle. I am aware of the risks and am willing to stop if I see any sides. I'm not gonna go crazy or even use for a long period of time. I was thinking 6-8 weeks then run another maybe for 12 weeks in another four months if all goes well. Maybe do two cycles a year and that's it.

This is all said pre cycle var of course all is subject to change.

 

[psizzle_8]

Im a guy so take this as you will:

-You look great judging by your picture. Do you want to risk sides? How much muscle are sides worth? Its always a risk/reward thing.

-If you are determined to use AAS and var in particular I would start at 5mgs. If you don't get results from that your meal plan is off and you will be able to get great results just from fixing that. Then when that is fixed 5mgs should set it off.

*Side note: a close friend of mine is an IFBB pro bber. She has never done more than 10mgs of var and a little clen. She stresses its all in your meal plan and your routine.

-I always try to stress to women to start low. You can always increase the dose later if you really want too. The fact is you can run multiple cycles at 5mgs or what ever you choose and still get results. I feel its better to start low and see how you respond than start high (usually because some guy at the gym said to) and regret it the rest of your life.

Best of luck!

*Side note: 5mgs of var is strong enough to shut down a man's natural testosterone production.

Yeah...steroids aren't a joke and shouldn't be underestimated. But 9 times out of 10 they are. All we can do is offer our knowledgeable advice and they can do with it what they will.

 

[psizzle_8]

Thanks slat. I really want that hard look especially in the abs legs that I have only seen from women using aas. I was going to start at 5 and stay there for at least 3 weeks and only bump if I felt necessary. I feel my training and diet are pretty spot on I don't know how much more improving I could do there and maintain a sane lifestyle. I am aware of the risks and am willing to stop if I see any sides. I'm not gonna go crazy or even use for a long period of time. I was thinking 6-8 weeks then run another maybe for 12 weeks in another four months if all goes well. Maybe do two cycles a year and that's it.

This is all said pre cycle var of course all is subject to change.

It IS possible. Took me six years to get the mass I had before I even touched roids. Usually people that come on here and say 'they're frustrated' don't usually put in as much as they need.

Being a woman, it's even harder. I'm against resorting to roids unless you've put sufficient time in naturally...getting cut CAN be accomplished without roids if you work hard enough...roids aren't a magic extreme fat burner. You still have to work your ass off.

 

[Boomie]

It IS possible. Took me six years to get the mass I had before I even touched roids. Usually people that come on here and say 'they're frustrated' don't usually put in as much as they need.

Well good thing I'm not one of those people, never once mentioned I was 'frustrated'. If you don't mind me asking why did you start using them?

Being a woman, it's even harder. I'm against resorting to roids unless you've put sufficient time in naturally...getting cut CAN be accomplished without roids if you work hard enough...roids aren't a magic extreme fat burner. You still have to work your ass off.

Once again didn't say they were. Are you speaking in general to the masses that come post these sorts of questions or me individually? What is sufficient time mean to you? Would you be one to argue that women using aas and women not using aas have no advantages over each other and these women generally look the same in the terms of muscle density/ hardness?

Just picking your brain. I am listening to everyone's opinions and expertise. I just would hope that you are considering my individual circumstance and not just the random female poster to the forum.

I feel I have put sufficient time in naturally. I do bust my ass in the gym and would only work harder if I did choose to run a cycle. My diet is in check and has been for years. Sure I have experimented for what works for me and had a baby in there.

I just feel the way you addressing this it's as if I don't know these things (being a woman it's harder, still have to work my ass off.) Did you read my intro or look at the photo? So I guess what I got from your knowledge is that you feel I'm not working hard enough, correct?

 

[psizzle_8]

Well good thing I'm not one of those people, never once mentioned I was 'frustrated'. If you don't mind me asking why did you start using them?


Once again didn't say they were. Are you speaking in general to the masses that come post these sorts of questions or me individually? What is sufficient time mean to you? Would you be one to argue that women using aas and women not using aas have no advantages over each other and these women generally look the same in the terms of muscle density/ hardness?

Just picking your brain. I am listening to everyone's opinions and expertise. I just would hope that you are considering my individual circumstance and not just the random female poster to the forum.

I feel I have put sufficient time in naturally. I do bust my ass in the gym and would only work harder if I did choose to run a cycle. My diet is in check and has been for years. Sure I have experimented for what works for me and had a baby in there.

I just feel the way you addressing this it's as if I don't know these things (being a woman it's harder, still have to work my ass off.) Did you read my intro or look at the photo? So I guess what I got from your knowledge is that you feel I'm not working hard enough, correct?

I took AAS because I was planning on competing, and I'd like to model. Both careers require you to have a ridiculous physique.

Relax...I was speaking in general. You don't know how many people come on here wanting to do steroids to lose weight. Makes no fucking sense. That's what diet and cardio are for. Steroids are for taking the next step with your body when genetics have taken you as far as they're able to. That's why we don't give advice to people under 21...

Whether you do a round of steroids or not is completely up to you. I'm not gonna be affected lol all I can do is give my personal opinion. Take my sister for example, after having her second child she's unhappy w the weight she's gained, am I gonna suggest giving her steroids? No. See how silly that sounds? It's stupid. Steroids aren't magic fat burners...

Yes I read your stuff and saw your pic. I guarantee with tweaks to your diet and training you'd change your physique. I have pics of me when I was fucking seventeen years old and was more cut and defined than half the dudes I see on here, and I wasn't on ANYTHING but protein and worked my ass off daily in the gym.

 

[Boomie]

I am relaxed I just wanna get knowledge/info and not aas aren't used to lose fat train better eat better and you'll be fine generic answer.

I'm not a typical p90xer eat mcdonalds everyday and wonder why I'm not losing.

The pic is where I am now 10 more pounds will be the end of my cut. I count my cals macros nutrient timing, intermitent faster. I lift heavy ass shit in the gym and do cardio 3x a week. I will be 26 this year not 17. One day when I will compete when I feel I am ready. I would like to try aas because of your similar reasonings. I was looking to get more info and make an informed decision. I just find it odd that most women are not so recommentory of them when they are all using themselves. WHY? Is it we don't discuss until your in the club and already using? That why might be the reason I won't cycle. I know it doesn't make a damn bit a difference to you if I cycle or not, but this is a support forum. Where women can go to ask other women the skinny and not feel judged instead of just taking poor advice. I AM listening and considering which I think is better than most that come on here close minded and don't get the answer they want.

So doing it all over again would you have still cycled? You don't feel that your using gave you warranted results?

 

[psizzle_8]

I am relaxed I just wanna get knowledge/info and not aas aren't used to lose fat train better eat better and you'll be fine generic answer.

I'm not a typical p90xer eat mcdonalds everyday and wonder why I'm not losing.

The pic is where I am now 10 more pounds will be the end of my cut. I count my cals macros nutrient timing, intermitent faster. I lift heavy ass shit in the gym and do cardio 3x a week. I will be 26 this year not 17. One day when I will compete when I feel I am ready. I would like to try aas because of your similar reasonings. I was looking to get more info and make an informed decision. I just find it odd that most women are not so recommentory of them when they are all using themselves. WHY? Is it we don't discuss until your in the club and already using? That why might be the reason I won't cycle. I know it doesn't make a damn bit a difference to you if I cycle or not, but this is a support forum. Where women can go to ask other women the skinny and not feel judged instead of just taking poor advice. I AM listening and considering which I think is better than most that come on here close minded and don't get the answer they want.

So doing it all over again would you have still cycled? You don't feel that your using gave you warranted results?

I got enormous with steroids. With my genetics I had/have a genuine future in bodybuilding...but it just isn't for me.

Do what will make you happy. I just want people to understand steroids shouldn't be taken lightly. You seem dead-set on this decision, so why are we still discussing it? I think the ladies here and I agree starting with a low dose var is a good choice. Good luck to you, if you need further assistance myself and the other mods and vets are at your disposal.

 

[Boomie]

Thanks for your input and individual experience. I'm still researching and appreciate your help.

 

[caligirl85]

I am relaxed I just wanna get knowledge/info and not aas aren't used to lose fat train better eat better and you'll be fine generic answer.

I'm not a typical p90xer eat mcdonalds everyday and wonder why I'm not losing.

The pic is where I am now 10 more pounds will be the end of my cut. I count my cals macros nutrient timing, intermitent faster. I lift heavy ass shit in the gym and do cardio 3x a week. I will be 26 this year not 17. One day when I will compete when I feel I am ready. I would like to try aas because of your similar reasonings. I was looking to get more info and make an informed decision. I just find it odd that most women are not so recommentory of them when they are all using themselves. WHY? Is it we don't discuss until your in the club and already using? That why might be the reason I won't cycle. I know it doesn't make a damn bit a difference to you if I cycle or not, but this is a support forum. Where women can go to ask other women the skinny and not feel judged instead of just taking poor advice. I AM listening and considering which I think is better than most that come on here close minded and don't get the answer they want.

So doing it all over again would you have still cycled? You don't feel that your using gave you warranted results?

Yes but...

• I would not have taken advice at face value from my MALE trainer!!
• I would have started and STAYED at a lower dose. The results would have most likely been just as good!
• I would NOT have been so quick to stack!
• I would have done more research as I started to use to more "heavy" ones.
• I would have stopped earlier at the signs of negative sides. It's NOT just a sore throat!

I started using to enhance competing but I do not have a future as a competitor at a national level or as a career so I had to really look at why I was using and the pros/ cons. What was I really trying to achieve? I LOVE the way I feel on even just a low dose var cycle, it messes me up hormonally coming off (I'm 40 though) but I will most likely run another cycle in the future.

My best advice is to keep the dose low and don't be in a rush to ramp it up. Run it at 5mgs for the full 6-8 weeks and see how it goes. See how you feel coming off and honestly, if you are looking at doing more, I'd keep notes. Track the sides or lack of them. Track the changes. Coming off too. It will help you plan in the future.

 

[psizzle_8]

Yes but...

• I would not have taken advice at face value from my MALE trainer!!
• I would have started and STAYED at a lower dose. The results would have most likely been just as good!
• I would NOT have been so quick to stack!
• I would have done more research as I started to use to more "heavy" ones.
• I would have stopped earlier at the signs of negative sides. It's NOT just a sore throat!

I started using to enhance competing but I do not have a future as a competitor at a national level or as a career so I had to really look at why I was using and the pros/ cons. What was I really trying to achieve? I LOVE the way I feel on even just a low dose var cycle, it messes me up hormonally coming off (I'm 40 though) but I will most likely run another cycle in the future.

My best advice is to keep the dose low and don't be in a rush to ramp it up. Run it at 5mgs for the full 6-8 weeks and see how it goes. See how you feel coming off and honestly, if you are looking at doing more, I'd keep notes. Track the sides or lack of them. Track the changes. Coming off too. It will help you plan in the future.

Bam

 

[Boomie]

Yes but...

• I would not have taken advice at face value from my MALE trainer!!
• I would have started and STAYED at a lower dose. The results would have most likely been just as good!
• I would NOT have been so quick to stack!
• I would have done more research as I started to use to more "heavy" ones.
• I would have stopped earlier at the signs of negative sides. It's NOT just a sore throat!

I started using to enhance competing but I do not have a future as a competitor at a national level or as a career so I had to really look at why I was using and the pros/ cons. What was I really trying to achieve? I LOVE the way I feel on even just a low dose var cycle, it messes me up hormonally coming off (I'm 40 though) but I will most likely run another cycle in the future.

My best advice is to keep the dose low and don't be in a rush to ramp it up. Run it at 5mgs for the full 6-8 weeks and see how it goes. See how you feel coming off and honestly, if you are looking at doing more, I'd keep notes. Track the sides or lack of them. Track the changes. Coming off too. It will help you plan in the future.

Thank you so much for sharing this with me. This is the info I am really looking for honest opinions based on female personal experiences. good or bad. I am still researching and not dead set, although I really want to. Just being patient. If I do decide to run I will take your advice and start low and stay there. I have a journal that I document everything training cardio foods calories macros supplements weight. That is good advice.

 

[slat1]

If you decide to go ahead start up a journal in here so other women can see your experiences. Each day type in what you eat, when, how much, why etc. Same with fluids. List your routine too. You will inspire a lot of women to step up their commitment. Lastly, list what you see from the var, how you feel etc.

 

[Boomie]

If you decide to go ahead start up a journal in here so other women can see your experiences. Each day type in what you eat, when, how much, why etc. Same with fluids. List your routine too. You will inspire a lot of women to step up their commitment. Lastly, list what you see from the var, how you feel etc.

Thanks for the idea it's up in the aas journal section, ladies cycle log. Will post when link when elite will allow.

 

[kaligohard]

Hello all

I am new here first post. I am very active on BB.com and have been doing the natty thing for years. Since everything is so don't ask over there I have been lurking here for several days. I love how everything is so out in the open. Anyway I will continue my activity here as well.

This would be my first cycle on anything besides creatine/ glutamine. I really want that hard look that seems to be only acheivable with the extras think andreia brazier eva andressa. I have a decent amount of mass, but still would like more in glutes and legs. I train six days a week. 1400-1500 cals cutting atm at least 140g protein carbs under 100g carbs at least 50g of fat. I always get so discouraged the amount of muscle lost after bulking during cut cycles.I also long for those deep cut abs that are never there despite how many bulk/cut cycles are . ran. Current lifts look like 150x1 bench 225 for reps squat 205 for reps deadlift.

Anyhow down to the nitty gritty. I'm well into my cut and only have about six weeks left to get to 135 ish currently 145 at 5'4". Avi pic is current 2 weeks ago. I am considering running anavar for the remainder of my cut and okay with extending it out to 8 weeks. Then maintain for 4 weeks or so bulk 5-6 mos then cut again. Do you think it would be beneficial to bring it to the table now, or just wait until next cut season to use it? If wait what would you ladies recommend for the bulking season, I have seen that anavar is usually only used for cutting. Thanks gals, let me know if you need any additional info, I really appreciate your time and input.

If your tryna loose ten pounds I wouldn't recommend anavar. Period. You will gain about ten pds on a cycle if you are lifting weights. You will get more muscle definition than natural lifting if you know what you are doing. But if you are trying to cut and loose ten pounds then try something else. You can loose some body fat while on var with lots of cardio in between lifting, but that doesnt necessarily mean you will loose weight. Muscle weighs more than fat. Anavar helps harden and bulk the muscles. Especially upper body from my experience. But of course everyones different.

Its been a month since this post. Did you start a var cycle & what are the results so far? Any after pics?

 

[Boomie]

If your tryna loose ten pounds I wouldn't recommend anavar. Period. You will gain about ten pds on a cycle if you are lifting weights. You will get more muscle definition than natural lifting if you know what you are doing. But if you are trying to cut and loose ten pounds then try something else. You can loose some body fat while on var with lots of cardio in between lifting, but that doesnt necessarily mean you will loose weight. Muscle weighs more than fat. Anavar helps harden and bulk the muscles. Especially upper body from my experience. But of course everyones different.

Its been a month since this post. Did you start a var cycle & what are the results so far? Any after pics?

It's been two weeks. I'm currently taking 5/5 a day. Still hovering around the 145 mark. Not really concerned about the scale as fat loss. Too soon to tell any progress. Started a journal to track experience lifts diet etc..

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/m...rnal/hawt-n-sexy-ladies-cycle-log-990463.html

Zed named it

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[kaligohard]

It's been two weeks. I'm currently taking 5/5 a day. Still hovering around the 145 mark. Not really concerned about the scale as fat loss. Too soon to tell any progress. Started a journal to track experience lifts diet etc..

Oh yea, that var is definitely working for you. I know you notice the difference in muscle hardness and definition since the first pic you posted here til now. If you havent had any noticible sides so far, Id recommend upping the dose. I havent had any noticible sides from var from two highly recommended and positively reviewed suppliers. Im on my second var cycle and I still never even missed my menstral. Im on 25-30mg day so far with no noticable sides.

But everyones different. So id say just go up 10mg to stay on the safe side. 10/10. I take mine in one dose though. Ive never split doses. But if thats comfortable for you Id say stick with that regimine.

But I deffinitely see your progress already. I too noticed the muscle hardness on my first week first cycle. Gotta love that var.

Im about to stack with 5mg tbol for a few weeks and see if I get any enhanced results. Im feeling a little stagnant after that first anavar cycle which i ran for 9 weeks with a one week break in between.... I saw noticable gains but now Im just resting on what I already gained it seems like. My upper body is alot stronger still though, like I was saying before. Make sure you do lotsa rows and pull downs to get that back definition.

Good luck! Your progressing well.

P.S.: As far as weight in numbers-i'd say keep the weight and just lower the body fat. If your looking for more mass the weight in numbers is gonna stay and even increase. But you gotta sweat your ass of to get rid of that BF. Oh how I hate cardio. Necessary evil.

 

[Boomie]

Oh yea, that var is definitely working for you. I know you notice the difference in muscle hardness and definition since the first pic you posted here til now. If you havent had any noticible sides so far, Id recommend upping the dose. I havent had any noticible sides from var from two highly recommended and positively reviewed suppliers. Im on my second var cycle and I still never even missed my menstral. Im on 25-30mg day so far with no noticable sides.

But everyones different. So id say just go up 10mg to stay on the safe side. 10/10. I take mine in one dose though. Ive never split doses. But if thats comfortable for you Id say stick with that regimine.

But I deffinitely see your progress already. I too noticed the muscle hardness on my first week first cycle. Gotta love that var.

Im about to stack with 5mg tbol for a few weeks and see if I get any enhanced results. Im feeling a little stagnant after that first anavar cycle which i ran for 9 weeks with a one week break in between.... I saw noticable gains but now Im just resting on what I already gained it seems like. My upper body is alot stronger still though, like I was saying before. Make sure you do lotsa rows and pull downs to get that back definition.

Good luck! Your progressing well.

P.S.: As far as weight in numbers-i'd say keep the weight and just lower the body fat. If your looking for more mass the weight in numbers is gonna stay and even increase. But you gotta sweat your ass of to get rid of that BF. Oh how I hate cardio. Necessary evil.

Call me crazy but I'm not looking for much more mass. Really just trying to drop the bf and keep the mass I have if I get some more no biggie. I'm a little apprehensive about bumping the dose this early in the game. I probably will on second cycle if this one goes well. Only sides I have or have seen thus far is increased acne on back and chin and increased sex drive.

I'm bumping up the intensity cardio after my race this weekend as I have been primarily training for that.

What do you ladies run when you cut anything?

 

[kaligohard]

Call me crazy but I'm not looking for much more mass. Really just trying to drop the bf and keep the mass I have if I get some more no biggie. I'm a little apprehensive about bumping the dose this early in the game. I probably will on second cycle if this one goes well. Only sides I have or have seen thus far is increased acne on back and chin and increased sex drive.

I'm bumping up the intensity cardio after my race this weekend as I have been primarily training for that.

What do you ladies run when you cut anything?

If your getting sides from anavar, I personally wouldnt recommend you try anything else as far as gear goes, since anavar is the mildest out. & your right-dont up the dose if your getting sides on only 10mg a day split 5/5. Especially if you dont want more mass. Then it makes me wonder why your lifting so heavy according to your journal??? Why dont you just mainly do cardio type training? Your doing stuff like deadlifting & rows, but your not tryna build mass??? Thats a new one.

Any other oral will probably leave you more vulnerable to virilization if your body is reacting to such a low dose of var and from your goal description thats not what you want. & you probably dont need to be using hormones for the type of goal you are describing. A diet pill will probably be sufficient to burn fat.

 

[Boomie]

If your getting sides from anavar, I personally wouldnt recommend you try anything else as far as gear goes, since anavar is the mildest out. & your right-dont up the dose if your getting sides on only 10mg a day split 5/5. Especially if you dont want more mass. Then it makes me wonder why your lifting so heavy according to your journal??? Why dont you just mainly do cardio type training? Your doing stuff like deadlifting & rows, but your not tryna build mass??? Thats a new one.

Any other oral will probably leave you more vulnerable to virilization if your body is reacting to such a low dose of var and from your goal description thats not what you want. & you probably dont need to be using hormones for the type of goal you are describing. A diet pill will probably be sufficient to burn fat.

If I did mainly cardio I would lose mass. I want to keep and maintain the mass I have. I'm aspiring for an end game physique like larissa reis or eva andressa. I believe I have already built the mass required for that physique but won't be able to tell until my bodyfat gets lower. If the mass isn't there then of course I'll need more.

I don't only train for aestethics powerlifting as well. Strength and progression is needed for that sport so are deadlifts and supporting lifts to help progress those lifts. Deadlifts aren't going to magically build mass if you are not eating at a surplus.

Yup I had a bit of acne before I started I can't tell if it has accelerated because of the gear training or that time of the month. It's not ridiculous but I documented it none the less. So I'm gonna stick here until I know for sure. I will update you.

I've liked what I've gotten outta the anavar so far increased muscle hardness vascularity and I seem to be getting leaner (i think) so I feel it is meeting my goals. Things otherwise may have taken alot longer.

Maker more sense?

 

[slat1]

How is your fat intake?
Make sure you are getting 3k mg of Omega 3 and 2.5k mg of Omega 6. After a month of doing so you will notice you are less sore, you are getting better gains and you are dropping more fat. Those numbers will also get your lipids spot on (which is important because orals kill them).

 

[dub1]

K, I am 31 years old and am power lifter turned body builder as of recent, I have discovered var over this past summer, So all I can give you is my experience only. Var is a great tool to help you get to where you need to be. I did alot of research on it first obviously and you need to get it from a reliable source to be sure you are getting the real thing. I have read one to many blogs stating that it has changed voices and things like that. var should not do this to you as it is not androgenic and I am on a relatively higher dose, and have not experienced any sides other than a little acne on chest.

It does help with shedding subcutaneous and visceral body fat as well, this was not my intention when starting it as I said earlier was a powerlifter and was more interested in the strength gains which were as follows when ran for 8 weeks bench from 135 to 225- deadlift from 225 to 295 squat from 135 to 255. while following 13 week powerlifting program after all my workouts I would do a bodybuilding workout and results were amazing.

There were very noticible fat loss as well as a hardening and growth of muscle, which is what it was originally designed to do, obviously when altering your own natural testerone level muscle mass should be expected right. when you up your muscle mass you burn more fat. So my experience with var has been a great one, Also strength gains with var are easily maintained and all other effects hang around for around 6 months or so. I don't necessarily agree with bulking as I think you have better gains when you eat clean there is really no need to gain fat in order to lose it again. At least you know what your gaining you will see definate improvement with var.

Again this is only in my experience, I hope it helps you out. Good Luck

 

[Jbird921]

K, I am 31 years old and am power lifter turned body builder as of recent, I have discovered var over this past summer, So all I can give you is my experience only. Var is a great tool to help you get to where you need to be. I did alot of research on it first obviously and you need to get it from a reliable source to be sure you are getting the real thing. I have read one to many blogs stating that it has changed voices and things like that. var should not do this to you as it is not androgenic and I am on a relatively higher dose, and have not experienced any sides other than a little acne on chest.

It does help with shedding subcutaneous and visceral body fat as well, this was not my intention when starting it as I said earlier was a powerlifter and was more interested in the strength gains which were as follows when ran for 8 weeks bench from 135 to 225- deadlift from 225 to 295 squat from 135 to 255. while following 13 week powerlifting program after all my workouts I would do a bodybuilding workout and results were amazing.

There were very noticible fat loss as well as a hardening and growth of muscle, which is what it was originally designed to do, obviously when altering your own natural testerone level muscle mass should be expected right. when you up your muscle mass you burn more fat. So my experience with var has been a great one, Also strength gains with var are easily maintained and all other effects hang around for around 6 months or so. I don't necessarily agree with bulking as I think you have better gains when you eat clean there is really no need to gain fat in order to lose it again. At least you know what your gaining you will see definate improvement with var.

Again this is only in my experience, I hope it helps you out. Good Luck

So you kept your strength gains post? I read mixed results and I went of anavar for strength and was worried about post cycle and loss of strength. Can you elaborate a little more?