anatomy of a post cycle crash

[Lao Tzu]

As far as i know, a post cycle crash occurs because your body doesn't have any innate testosterone being produced, and you go into a state of catabolism. That is all i know.

I need more details. Give me as much info on how the crash works, and what can be done to avoid it.

I already know about clomid & HCG. I just want more info. If there is a rise in catabolism, what causes it and what can be done to inhibit it (will the dianabol bridge 10mg/day work, or is there something less risky).

graci.

For those who say 'use the search function', feel free to use it for me to link those posts.

 

[me2dammit]

well

anybody that has dieted can tell you an ECA stack seems to inhibit catabolsim to some degree. Or you can use clen, either one works. Hell cycle them both. Creatine hydrates the muscle which, in theory can fight off catabolism. Rest is another thing needed for post cycle. All this helps while you natural T level gets back up.

Remember there is a difference between using your muscles and breaking them down for growth. You don't want to break them down when you are in this catabolic state or coming out of the catabolic state, you do want to use them. Change your workouts accordingly!.

 

[TPH]

I think the dbol in the AM even at 10 mgs may shut you down...

I have never been able to procure proviron, but I hear that this may work. What about switching to a shorter acting test towards the end of the cycle, I've never tried this, but alot of Bros have touted this as helping post cycle crash?

TPH

 

[Ulter]

I have crashed at least 5 times in the last 20 years. All long before I knew what I was doing.
You need to have some dbol on hand to get you out of it. Nothing else works unless you want to ride it out. 99% of the people I talk to don't crash anymore however. They use HCG/Nolva at the end and clomid for a few weeks and they avoid the big crash. They may get a little one but not the kind that lasts 6 weeks where you are completely useless. Which is what we all did years ago.
You will feel a lot like you have mono. You have no energy and no desire to get out of bed. You become very depressed and have no sex drive. In fact you have no anything drive. You can't even begin to think about training.
If you want to treat these one at a time and not use dbol, and I don't suggest that, you can use deprynil, NYC, Chasteberry, and arimidex. But like I said in a crash Morning Dbol will fix it in a couple days and you can use that until you get some test going again.

 

[SOLID]

I have crashed at least 5 times in the last 20 years. All long before I knew what I was doing.
You need to have some dbol on hand to get you out of it. Nothing else works unless you want to ride it out. 99% of the people I talk to don't crash anymore however. They use HCG/Nolva at the end and clomid for a few weeks and they avoid the big crash. They may get a little one but not the kind that lasts 6 weeks where you are completely useless. Which is what we all did years ago.
You will feel a lot like you have mono. You have no energy and no desire to get out of bed. You become very depressed and have no sex drive. In fact you have no anything drive. You can't even begin to think about training.
If you want to treat these one at a time and not use dbol, and I don't suggest that, you can use deprynil, NYC, Chasteberry, and arimidex. But like I said in a crash Morning Dbol will fix it in a couple days and you can use that until you get some test going again.

what if you don't plan on using test again? Can you still get d-bol sides at only 10mg a day? I'm thinking of trying the d-bol bridge but more as a taper to come off completely not to bridge into another cycle. I've never done d-bol and I'd like to know what to expect side effect wise from a minor 10mg ed.

 

[ROLGOR]

I have heard both ways. When coming off cycle do you do the dbol with the clomid, before clomid or after clomid?

 

[Ulter]

Take the dbol AFTER the clomid. 10mg will not give you any sides. At least I have never heard of any at that dose. It doesn't matter what your cycle consists of. When you come off, using the Dbol will make things easier on you. Yes it MAY prolong the recovery a couple weeks because your HPTA won't be in the panic to recover that it would be without it. But so what? IT WILL RECOVER while you're on the dbol. Then when you stop the dbol after a few weeks you'll be closer to 100% so that you don't have AS crash symptoms.