Here's why I don't think Tito could take Manfred. I'm sure Manfred, not being the stupid ogre he might appear to be at first glance, would check out fights of how Tito fights, and I'm sure he knows that as heavy as he is, if he keeps a low center of gravity, it'll be real dan hard for Tito to knock over Manfred if he manages to keep a low center of gravity. See, Tito's not really a ground fighter, he has submissions, yeah, but he's mainly a stand up fighter. The only way i've personally seen him take anyone to the ground is with a belly to belly drop. He's not going to do that to Manfred. Even if he did manage to attempt a lock on Manfred, Manfred would have to be pretty off balance to not be able to use his mass amounts of strength to simply reverse the lock. You guys don't seem to know how strong Manfred is. Yeah yeah I know the old addage of "strength doesn't mean anything" but when you look at reality, it only goes so far. Like I said, you can be a maste at weilding the hammer, but no matter what, you're still not going to break down a concrete wall.