Am I screwed?

[burnthiscorpse]

Are you kidding me? So I'm supposed to take whatever you guys tell me at face value without questioning it? Talk about displaying ignorance... you should know better than that. I never said anyone here was wrong or eluded that I'm adamant like you made me out to be. I'm simply asking how they came to certain conclusions. & a doctor is the most respected occupation in the world.. I'm not saying they're right either, I'm telling you their opinion (book smarts) and asking for yours (street smarts) so I can formulate a decision that I feel is best.

I truly do appreciate your guys's time & help, all of the info you've provided me was very useful. I just wanted some further explanations on a few things is all. You validated the point he made about a low dose synthetic testosterone screwing up my natural levels and I will most likely buy SERMs now. I even admitted I was wrong in the OP and that your advocacy for youths to stay away from steroids stands 100% true.

"The error of youth is to believe that knowledge is a substitute for experience, while the error of age is to believe experience is a substitute for intelligence." - Ernest Hemingway.

^ I think that's a good summary of this situation. Just remember that next time you point your finger at someone and tell them that they're narrow minded, don't forget that there are 3 fingers pointing right back at you.

Why the fuck would you run a serm now? For PCT? That's a real piss poor idea.

And yeah...your doctor is a fucking retard. Wow is he a retard! 99% of them are morons. They know nothing beyond what they have read in their books. And dealing with AAS or HRT is not in their books. That goes for endocrinologists too. They know nothing of practical application.

 

[jcroc23]

Why the fuck would you run a serm now? For PCT? That's a real piss poor idea.

And yeah...your doctor is a fucking retard. Wow is he a retard! 99% of them are morons. They know nothing beyond what they have read in their books. And dealing with AAS or HRT is not in their books. That goes for endocrinologists too. They know nothing of practical application.

At least offer me some insight as to what you'd rather me run if you're going to call it stupid. I was recommended by 2 different people to run a SERM. 1st guy told me to run clomid and 2nd guy told me to run phyto-serms. So what do you suggest I run for a PCT instead then?

 

[rustilldown]

At least offer me some insight as to what you'd rather me run if you're going to call it stupid. I was recommended by 2 different people to run a SERM. 1st guy told me to run clomid and 2nd guy told me to run phyto-serms. So what do you suggest I run for a PCT instead then?

I wouldn't run anything more than an Over the counter test booster. Yah you made a poor decision, but you will recover, your young, eat big lift big and sleep big and your levels will bounce back.

 

[Evan Tipps]

I wouldn't run anything more than an Over the counter test booster. Yah you made a poor decision, but you will recover, your young, eat big lift big and sleep big and your levels will bounce back.

^^ You dont need much. You cant get angry at people on the site reccomending those pct supplements. Its a business.. And a lot of people like those supps for pct. But youre young and youl lrecover fine either way

 

[jcroc23]

I wouldn't run anything more than an Over the counter test booster. Yah you made a poor decision, but you will recover, your young, eat big lift big and sleep big and your levels will bounce back.

^^ You dont need much. You cant get angry at people on the site reccomending those pct supplements. Its a business.. And a lot of people like those supps for pct. But youre young and youl lrecover fine either way

You 2 win the award for the best answers yet. Any good test boosters you could recommend me to?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

At least offer me some insight as to what you'd rather me run if you're going to call it stupid. I was recommended by 2 different people to run a SERM. 1st guy told me to run clomid and 2nd guy told me to run phyto-serms. So what do you suggest I run for a PCT instead then?

You'll likely be fine without a PCT. No need to compound your problem with more pharmaceuticals. If you must run something run Bridge or Hcgenerate. Something natural that actually works.

As for calling this whole thing stupid, it is stupid, extremely stupid. It wreaks of idiocy and lack of health awareness and desire to research what one is doing to one's body. Its one big cluster fuck mess from start to finish. Don't expect a lot of hugs and warm fuzzy here. You're actually getting off quite easy with the posts so far. Yeah, you made a huge mistake and I'm beating a dead horse. Its gonna happen.

 

[Aplopez8]

Stick to natural test boosters your young and will
Most likely be fine ..

 

[stevesmi]

At least offer me some insight as to what you'd rather me run if you're going to call it stupid. I was recommended by 2 different people to run a SERM. 1st guy told me to run clomid and 2nd guy told me to run phyto-serms. So what do you suggest I run for a PCT instead then?

phyto-serms is NOT a serm.

its a natural test booster.


but yeah you will recover naturally on your own, but you also need something to hold you over in the mean time that won't fuck you up more so you can function. if your bloods are accurate you are gonna have a rough next few weeks and you need something to get you through that which won't suppress you more.

also burn is right.. docs don't learn about AAS in college. 99.9% of them have zero experience with that. most docs can teach you about tennis or golf, NOT about lifting or juicing. there are a select few who actually juice but those are less than .01% of all docs and good luck finding one like that.. the docs i know from my gym are just regular schmo's, they go to the gym a lot and still have zero muscle because they don't know how to workout intensley.. they just go there to socialize and jerk around.. they aren't there to build muscle and get big. however try giving a 'doctor' some pointers on lifting and they wont' want to hear it.. they have an entitlement mentality even though they look like they don't lift and can bench 95 pounds.

you are right, don't listen to anything on a forum at face value.. however the posters on here are very experienced on this stuff and the mods have special skills or they wouldn't be mods in the first place. for example they made me a mod based on my PCT knowledge and my bloodwork experience which fits your exact issue here. so you would be wise to listen very close to what i tell you

 

[FitnessGuy147]

Dude, just stay away from the gear. You're19 and apparently don't want anyone's advice. Several guys have told you what to do and why are you are still asking the same questions. Not sure where all the concern comes from all of a sudden? You are the one who put shit in your body without knowing what it was and now you are worried about a natural test booster? Would you go to a pediatrician for brain surgery?! Do your research and try again in 6-7years.

 

[nangiggles]

Good lord your Dr sounds like the asshats I had seeing my husband until I finally found the one bioidentical hormone specialist in the county who knows his shit, we ripped through urologist, endocrinologist, primacy Dr, what a nightmare.

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