Am I screwed?

[stevesmi]

Total Testosterone - 17
Free Testosterone - 1.8

My T levels are almost non-existent.

How would underdosed test prop crash my levels this badly? Wouldn't they have been slightly above average if anything?

No way my test was this low before the cycle, either.

need to see your LH to give you a definate answer.

your doctor is not gonna help you on this, he could make things worse though. doctors are not taught about AAS in med school, they have zero clue... you might as well ask some random person at walmart what to do than ask a doc

if it was 90% grapeseed oil, and 10% actual gear then it makes sense it would still suppress your natural test to 0 and give you a slight increase in foreign test showing up

I am 99.9999 sure that your shit is underdosed bigtime. either that or your not reading your blood results correctly.

in any event just stop everything and stop being a stupid kid. run a bottle or two of phyto-serms (see my signature below for the banner and use those kids for a discount) and be done with it and stop trying to take short cuts in life.

 

[Zyglamail]

Even if he was only taking 150mg week of test due to underdosed gear his test levels wouldnt be in the toilet if he got labs done within a few days of ending cycle.

Id say just take some natural test boosting supps and wait it out. Your likely wasting money at the doc.

On a side note, if you cant get PCT then you likely cant get estrogen control either, so why the hell are you even using AAS?

 

[SinisterUproar]

I'm 19 years old (yes I know, way too young to have tried steroids) and was running an 8 week cycle of test prop 100mg eod. I was suspicious about the legitimacy of the prop so I went and had bloodwork done. My results came back and showed that I had very low T while ON cycle. This doesn't make any sense.. How could this LOWER my test levels? I think I may have been sold deca or something and completely ripped off. Are my natural test levels screwed forever now and have to be placed on TRT? I'm extremely worried about my future and It would be devastating to be placed on TRT at 19. I was fine before cycle, now I feel terrible. Half asleep all day, no libido, little to no appetite... All of this while I'm supposedly taking "test prop". I stopped taking everything last night assuming it was all unknown bs. Am I likely to recover my testosterone levels back to normal like they were before?

I can't even.... I can't

 

[Chibi]

kids do stupid things but it's good to see some vets in here trying to help this guy get his shit sorted out

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Yes ^^^^ Kids do some insanely stupid shit.....like Use AAS and have no way to get PCT. What the fuck are you thinking?

 

[jcroc23]

if it was 90% grapeseed oil, and 10% actual gear then it makes sense it would still suppress your natural test to 0 and give you a slight increase in foreign test showing up

That sounds awfully theoretical, how do you know for certain that such a small dose of synthetic test would shut down my natural levels ?

Also, my doctor said the synthetic testosterone would not show up on the blood work and that only my natural test levels would appear (extremely suppressed) which was to be expected because of the test prop shutting down my natural levels. Turns out my gear was probably legit.

I could have gotten PCT, I didn't want to buy it from my source though b/c my source is supposedly BS, and I've already cut him off. My doctor told to just wait it out and that everything should be back to normal within 2 months.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ your doctor is an idiot. of course test you inject will show up in blood work.. how the fuck do you think guys on a gram of gear have T levels at 3500+???

also yes even a small amount of gear will suppress you. if it didn't every juicehead on here would stay on forever just on a small amount of juice.

please fire your idiot doctor and stop listening to him

 

[Idobehigh]

I'm starting to think your a troll bro. Everything we told you you are doubting and questioning it. We said doctors are idiots and we are telling you what to do. You wanna wait 2 months and feel like shit then go back to the doctor and have him do blood again and waste more money or u can buynwhat we said speed up the recovery and feel better...

 

[AnthonyMarco]

That sounds awfully theoretical, how do you know for certain that such a small dose of synthetic test would shut down my natural levels ?

Because your body is used to about 7mg/day of natural testosterone. If you inject ~7mg/day, your body doesn't have to make any. If your body isn't making any, and the test propionate is already almost gone, you will show very little on an endocrine panel.

These guys have forgotten more about juice than I will ever know, and even I am insulted by how you are talking to them.

You came here for help, and you have gotten more than I have seen a lot of guys who did what you did get from these guys.

And instead of gratitude, you want to act like you know something. Guess what? You have made your ignorance apparent.

Exogenous testosterone wont show up on a blood screen? Your doctor is as lost as you are.

Experience is worth 10 university educations, but you are too hard headed to see that.

Good luck, and I hope everything works out for you. Honestly.

 

[jcroc23]

Because your body is used to about 7mg/day of natural testosterone. If you inject ~7mg/day, your body doesn't have to make any. If your body isn't making any, and the test propionate is already almost gone, you will show very little on an endocrine panel.

These guys have forgotten more about juice than I will ever know, and even I am insulted by how you are talking to them.

You came here for help, and you have gotten more than I have seen a lot of guys who did what you did get from these guys.

And instead of gratitude, you want to act like you know something. Guess what? You have made your ignorance apparent.

Exogenous testosterone wont show up on a blood screen? Your doctor is as lost as you are.

Experience is worth 10 university educations, but you are too hard headed to see that.

Good luck, and I hope everything works out for you. Honestly.

Are you kidding me? So I'm supposed to take whatever you guys tell me at face value without questioning it? Talk about displaying ignorance... you should know better than that. I never said anyone here was wrong or eluded that I'm adamant like you made me out to be. I'm simply asking how they came to certain conclusions. & a doctor is the most respected occupation in the world.. I'm not saying they're right either, I'm telling you their opinion (book smarts) and asking for yours (street smarts) so I can formulate a decision that I feel is best.

I truly do appreciate your guys's time & help, all of the info you've provided me was very useful. I just wanted some further explanations on a few things is all. You validated the point he made about a low dose synthetic testosterone screwing up my natural levels and I will most likely buy SERMs now. I even admitted I was wrong in the OP and that your advocacy for youths to stay away from steroids stands 100% true.

"The error of youth is to believe that knowledge is a substitute for experience, while the error of age is to believe experience is a substitute for intelligence." - Ernest Hemingway.

^ I think that's a good summary of this situation. Just remember that next time you point your finger at someone and tell them that they're narrow minded, don't forget that there are 3 fingers pointing right back at you.